You wanna tell me 0 centipawns for all the moves apart from 2. g3?zullil wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:26 am2.d5 is not even in the top twenty according to Lc0 (network 320x24.J13-swa-410000) with 100M nodes. Note: In the output that follows, moves are ranked from worst to best.Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:20 am
Matter of fact is though, the Dutch (Defence) is busted.
Or at least, far far from optimal.
What do my year-long investigations show?
[d]rnbqkbnr/ppppp1pp/8/5p2/3P4/8/PPP1PPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 2
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0911 20:32:17.108149 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string c1h6 (69 ) N: 1427 (+ 0) (P: 0.84%) (Q: -0.95274) (D: 0.015) (U: 1.17295) (Q+U: 0.22021) (V: -0.9789) 0911 20:32:17.108163 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string e1d2 (105 ) N: 3510 (+ 0) (P: 0.92%) (Q: -0.30344) (D: 0.322) (U: 0.52364) (Q+U: 0.22020) (V: -0.3060) 0911 20:32:17.108173 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string g2g4 (378 ) N: 12881 (+ 0) (P: 1.45%) (Q: -0.00499) (D: 0.331) (U: 0.22529) (Q+U: 0.22030) (V: 0.0266) 0911 20:32:17.108181 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string f2f4 (351 ) N: 15443 (+ 0) (P: 1.56%) (Q: 0.01810) (D: 0.430) (U: 0.20221) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.0471) 0911 20:32:17.108190 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string e2e4 (322 ) N: 17331 (+ 0) (P: 1.56%) (Q: 0.03943) (D: 0.337) (U: 0.18085) (Q+U: 0.22028) (V: 0.1204) 0911 20:32:17.108199 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string b1a3 (34 ) N: 18498 (+ 0) (P: 1.62%) (Q: 0.04491) (D: 0.412) (U: 0.17539) (Q+U: 0.22030) (V: 0.1318) 0911 20:32:17.108207 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string d4d5 (761 ) N: 20406 (+ 0) (P: 1.56%) (Q: 0.06677) (D: 0.396) (U: 0.15352) (Q+U: 0.22029) (V: 0.1287) 0911 20:32:17.108216 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string b2b4 (234 ) N: 21020 (+ 0) (P: 1.75%) (Q: 0.05360) (D: 0.392) (U: 0.16670) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.0962) 0911 20:32:17.108224 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string d1d2 (81 ) N: 24952 (+ 0) (P: 1.78%) (Q: 0.07717) (D: 0.403) (U: 0.14313) (Q+U: 0.22030) (V: 0.1211) 0911 20:32:17.108233 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string f2f3 (346 ) N: 25508 (+ 0) (P: 1.74%) (Q: 0.08339) (D: 0.363) (U: 0.13690) (Q+U: 0.22029) (V: 0.1770) 0911 20:32:17.108241 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string c1e3 (63 ) N: 44942 (+ 0) (P: 1.99%) (Q: 0.13183) (D: 0.400) (U: 0.08848) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.1627) 0911 20:32:17.108262 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string a2a4 (207 ) N: 48056 (+ 0) (P: 2.10%) (Q: 0.13286) (D: 0.410) (U: 0.08745) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.1554) 0911 20:32:17.108271 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string b1d2 (33 ) N: 50630 (+ 0) (P: 2.22%) (Q: 0.13251) (D: 0.406) (U: 0.08781) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.2007) 0911 20:32:17.108280 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string h2h4 (403 ) N: 62292 (+ 0) (P: 2.17%) (Q: 0.15049) (D: 0.395) (U: 0.06982) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.2065) 0911 20:32:17.108288 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string c1d2 (57 ) N: 64891 (+ 0) (P: 2.42%) (Q: 0.14566) (D: 0.407) (U: 0.07466) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.1802) 0911 20:32:17.108296 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string c2c3 (259 ) N: 68999 (+ 0) (P: 2.24%) (Q: 0.15515) (D: 0.418) (U: 0.06516) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.1830) 0911 20:32:17.108304 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string b2b3 (230 ) N: 77283 (+ 0) (P: 2.33%) (Q: 0.15994) (D: 0.415) (U: 0.06037) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.1804) 0911 20:32:17.108314 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string b1c3 (36 ) N: 82494 (+ 0) (P: 2.32%) (Q: 0.16390) (D: 0.400) (U: 0.05641) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.2372) 0911 20:32:17.108323 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string g1h3 (161 ) N: 85118 (+ 0) (P: 2.36%) (Q: 0.16487) (D: 0.396) (U: 0.05544) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.1824) 0911 20:32:17.108332 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string d1d3 (86 ) N: 89777 (+ 0) (P: 2.31%) (Q: 0.16876) (D: 0.369) (U: 0.05154) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.2438) 0911 20:32:17.108341 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string h2h3 (400 ) N: 122776 (+ 0) (P: 2.61%) (Q: 0.17766) (D: 0.405) (U: 0.04266) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.1957) 0911 20:32:17.108350 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string a2a3 (204 ) N: 124274 (+ 0) (P: 2.56%) (Q: 0.17911) (D: 0.411) (U: 0.04121) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.1847) 0911 20:32:17.108366 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string e2e3 (317 ) N: 167966 (+ 0) (P: 2.61%) (Q: 0.18916) (D: 0.408) (U: 0.03115) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.1820) 0911 20:32:17.108374 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string c1g5 (67 ) N: 307262 (+ 0) (P: 8.95%) (Q: 0.16194) (D: 0.379) (U: 0.05837) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.2063) 0911 20:32:17.108382 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string c1f4 (65 ) N: 1152437 (+ 0) (P: 8.51%) (Q: 0.20553) (D: 0.385) (U: 0.01478) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.2275) 0911 20:32:17.108390 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string g1f3 (159 ) N: 6811983 (+ 0) (P: 9.30%) (Q: 0.21644) (D: 0.435) (U: 0.00274) (Q+U: 0.21917) (V: 0.2218) 0911 20:32:17.108398 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string c2c4 (264 ) N: 13234059 (+ 0) (P: 11.33%) (Q: 0.21723) (D: 0.422) (U: 0.00172) (Q+U: 0.21894) (V: 0.2166) 0911 20:32:17.108406 140051065321216 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info string g2g3 (374 ) N: 77012590 (+ 8) (P: 16.88%) (Q: 0.21988) (D: 0.414) (U: 0.00044) (Q+U: 0.22031) (V: 0.2371) 0911 20:32:21.551563 140051073713920 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:384] Stopped search: Reached visits limit: 100000056>=100000000
That's certainly unrealistic.
The point is to play 2. d5, as otherwise black will occupy that square with a pawn.
How many cores has your new config, Louis?
Man, that new layout sucks BIG TIME.
I can hardly make sense of what the engine is posting.
Is Stockfish better?
Why that rage for Leela, when Stock is better, elowise and otherwise?
En vogue?