The supercomputer has been defeated by the human.

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The supercomputer has been defeated by the human.

Post by Father »

That the human being has the opportunity to play against a chess computer, we can see it every day, but that the human being defeated a monster that runs to seventy-five million two hundred and seventy-three thousand plays per second (75,273 KN / s) it is something that is not common at all. Personally I am admired with the improvement in the tactical and strategic development of the chess engines.

Experience teaches me that we should not lose the hope in the battle of man against machine.

 It is true that chess computers are a tool and complement in war and encroachments between humans in chess tournaments, and too or for all those who do not like to compete and practice the science game only at home and with their friends.

For me the chess computers are more than a traveling companion who teaches me to play chess, for me the computers are the ribal that is in front of me to whom it is my will and must , defeat!!.

A victory against a supercomputer like the one I present to you all today, for me means much more than a thousand defeats, and above all justifies having been defeated many times by chess computers, because of these defeats, I cook and in these defeats, I find the courage, and the decision not to give up in the battle of man against machine.

The machine that I have won today playing chess, if it were taken in time to compete against the mythical deep blue, would have crushed deep blue like an insect. But life has given me the gift of defeating that same machine, proving that there is something that human beings we must lose, "hope!!."

I dedicate my deceased Father and Mother with all the love that exists in my heart, this game, an unforgettable game of chess. And I thanks the entire scientific community that has participated over time in developing the machine that I had the pleasure of having in front of me, like a moster machine.

Respectfully,

Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
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[pgn][Event "Rated game, 5 min"] [Site "Engine Room"] [Date "2019.04.08"] [Round "?"] [White "Grand-father"] [Black "moonfleet"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "D00"] [WhiteElo "2028"] [BlackElo "2584"] [PlyCount "393"] [EventDate "2019.04.08"] [SourceTitle "playchess.com"] [TimeControl "300"] 1. d4 {2} d5 {B 0} 2. e3 {2} Nf6 {B 0} 3. f4 {1} Bf5 {B 0} 4. c3 {2} e6 { -1.12/24 8} 5. Nf3 {3} c5 {-1.13/25 0} 6. Bd3 {2 (Fe2)} Bd6 {B 0} 7. O-O {3} O-O {-1.23/23 3} 8. Re1 {3 (b3)} Re8 {-1.37/24 8} 9. Qe2 {5 (Fxf5)} Nc6 { -1.46/25 12} 10. a3 {6 (b3)} c4 {-1.71/23 3} 11. Bc2 {3} Na5 {-1.81/24 0} 12. Qd1 {2 (Fd1)} Bxc2 {9} 13. Qxc2 {-1.58/29 0} Ne4 {-1.62/29 3} 14. Nbd2 {26} f5 {-1.60/30 0} 15. Nf1 {1 (Tf1)} Rf8 {-1.84/28 8} 16. Re2 {3 (C1d2)} h6 {-1.77/ 30 16} 17. g3 {56 (Fd2)} Qe8 {-2.24/25 4} 18. Rg2 {1 (Dd1)} b5 {-2.15/28 27} 19. Qe2 {1 (Tb1)} Nb3 {-2.25/28 3} 20. Rb1 {2} a5 {-2.34/30 4} 21. Bd2 { 4 (C1d2)} g5 {-2.53/28 11} 22. Be1 {1} g4 {-2.51/27 0} 23. Nh4 {3 (C3d2)} Be7 { -3.61/27 7} 24. Kh1 {1 (Cd2)} Kf7 {-4.09/29 7} 25. Kg1 {1 (Dd1)} Qd8 {-4.09/36 3} 26. Kh1 {1 (Dd1)} h5 {-4.09/38 3} 27. Kg1 {3} Rh8 {-4.09/39 0} 28. Kh1 { 7 (Dd1)} Bf6 {-4.09/36 3} 29. Kg1 {3 (Dd1)} Qe7 {-4.09/38 3} 30. Kh1 {2 (Dd1)} Qd8 {-4.09/40 3} 31. Kg1 {8 (Dd1)} Qe7 {-4.09/37 3} 32. Kh1 {1 (Dd1)} Rhg8 { -4.09/41 3} 33. Kg1 {1 (Dd1)} Kg7 {-4.09/38 3} 34. Kh1 {0 (Dd1)} Qd8 {-4.09/34 3} 35. Kg1 {1 (Td1)} Qe7 {-4.09/39 4} 36. Kh1 {1 (Dd1)} Qd8 {-4.09/41 3} 37. Kg1 {1} Rb8 {-4.09/40 8} 38. Kh1 {1 (Dd1)} Kf7 {-4.09/38 3} 39. Kg1 {1 (Td1)} Qe7 {-4.09/40 3} 40. Kh1 {1 (Dd1)} Qd8 {-4.09/39 12} 41. Kg1 {1 (Td1)} Qe7 { -4.09/40 3} 42. Kh1 {1 (Dd1)} Ke8 {-4.09/41 3} 43. Kg1 {1 (Dd1)} Ra8 {-4.09/39 2} 44. Kh1 {1 (Dd1)} Kd7 {-4.09/38 3} 45. Kg1 {0 (Dd1)} Kc6 {-4.09/34 2} 46. Kh1 {1 (Td1)} Kc7 {-4.09/36 3} 47. Kg1 {1 (Dd1)} Kb7 {-4.09/34 2} 48. Kh1 {0} Kb6 {-4.09/37 1} 49. Kg1 {1 (Dc2)} Kc7 {-4.09/38 2} 50. Kh1 {0} Kb7 {-4.09/37 2 } 51. Kg1 {0 (Dc2)} Kc7 {-4.09/38 4} 52. Kh1 {0} Kb7 {-4.09/38 1} 53. Kg1 { 0 (Dc2)} Kb6 {-4.09/39 2} 54. Kh1 {0 (Dd1)} Rab8 {-4.09/35 2} 55. Kg1 {0 (Dc2)} Kc7 {-4.09/37 2} 56. Kh1 {0 (Dd1)} Kb7 {-4.09/37 2} 57. Kg1 {0 (Dd1)} Kc7 { -4.09/39 3} 58. Kh1 {0 (Dd1)} Kb6 {-4.09/37 2} 59. Kg1 {0 (Dc2)} Ka6 {-4.09/40 3} 60. Kh1 {0 (Dd1)} Ra8 {-4.09/37 2} 61. Kg1 {0 (Dd1)} Qd8 {-4.09/31 3} 62. Kh1 {0 (Dd1)} Kb6 {-4.09/33 1} 63. Kg1 {0 (Td1)} Kc6 {-4.09/36 2} 64. Kh1 { 0 (Dd1)} Kd6 {-4.09/38 3} 65. Kg1 {0 (Dc2)} Kd7 {-4.09/31 2} 66. Kh1 {1} Kc6 { -4.09/34 4} 67. Kg1 {0 (Dc2)} Rc8 {-4.09/32 2} 68. Kh1 {0 (Dd1)} Qe7 {-4.09/28 1} 69. Kg1 {1} Kd7 {-4.00/36 5} 70. Kh1 {0 (Dd1)} Rg7 {-4.00/31 3} 71. Kg1 { 0 (Td1)} Ra8 {-4.00/33 1} 72. Kh1 {1 (Dc2)} Kd6 {-3.90/32 1} 73. Kg1 {1 (Dc2)} Rb8 {-3.90/33 1} 74. Kh1 {0 (Dd1)} Rbg8 {-3.90/33 2} 75. Kg1 {1 (Td1)} a4 { -3.90/33 1} 76. Kh1 {1 (Dd1)} Kc6 {-3.71/31 2} 77. Kg1 {41 (Td1)} Qd8 {-3.68/ 27 1} 78. Kh1 {1 (Td1)} Rh8 {-3.68/33 1} 79. Kg1 {1 (Td1)} Rc7 {-3.68/29 1} 80. Kh1 {2} Kb6 {-3.68/36 0} 81. Kg1 {1 (Tg1)} Re8 {-3.68/31 1} 82. Kh1 {0} Rh8 { -3.68/34 0} 83. Kg1 {0 (Tg1)} Rh6 {-3.68/33 1} 84. Kh1 {0} Rhh7 {-3.68/33 0} 85. Kg1 {0 (Tg1)} Ka7 {-3.68/31 1} 86. Kh1 {0} Kb8 {-3.68/32 0} 87. Kg1 { 1 (Tg1)} Rh6 {-3.68/32 1} 88. Kh1 {0} Rch7 {-3.68/33 0} 89. Kg1 {0 (Td1)} Qe7 { -3.68/34 1} 90. Kh1 {0} Rg7 {-3.68/35 0} 91. Kg1 {1 (Td1)} Ka7 {-3.68/33 1} 92. Kh1 {0} Ka6 {-3.68/33 0} 93. Kg1 {0 (Td1)} Rh8 {-3.68/33 1} 94. Kh1 {0} Kb6 { -3.68/34 0} 95. Kg1 {0 (Tg1)} Rd8 {-3.68/31 1} 96. Kh1 {0} Ka7 {-3.68/33 0} 97. Kg1 {0 (Td1)} Rdg8 {-3.68/31 1} 98. Kh1 {0 (Td1)} Kb6 {-3.68/33 0} 99. Kg1 { 1 (Td1)} Kc6 {-3.68/31 1} 100. Kh1 {0 (Td1)} Kd7 {-3.68/33 1} 101. Kg1 {0 (Tg1) } Ke8 {-3.68/30 1} 102. Kh1 {0 (Td1)} Kd7 {-3.68/35 0} 103. Kg1 {0 (Tg1)} Kc7 { -3.68/32 0} 104. Kh1 {0 (Td1)} Qd7 {-3.68/33 0} 105. Kg1 {0 (Td1)} Kb8 { -3.68/33 0} 106. Kh1 {0} Qd8 {-3.68/35 0} 107. Kg1 {0 (Td1)} Rc7 {-3.68/32 0} 108. Kh1 {0} Qe7 {-3.68/34 0} 109. Kg1 {0 (Tg1)} Ra7 {-3.68/26 0} 110. Kh1 {0} Qe8 {-3.68/35 0} 111. Kg1 {1 (Td1)} Rag7 {-3.68/33 0} 112. Kh1 {0} Qd8 { -3.68/35 0} 113. Kg1 {1 (Tg1)} Be7 {-3.68/33 0} 114. Kh1 {0 (Td1)} Qe8 { -3.68/35 0} 115. Kg1 {0 (Td1)} Kb7 {-3.68/31 0} 116. Kh1 {0 (Td1)} Bf6 { -3.68/34 0} 117. Kg1 {1 (Td1)} Ka7 {-3.68/32 0} 118. Kh1 {0 (Td1)} Rh7 { -3.68/33 0} 119. Kg1 {0 (Td1)} Qd8 {-3.68/26 1} 120. Kh1 {0 (Dc2)} Rgg7 { -3.68/31 1} 121. Kg1 {0 (Td1)} Kb8 {-3.68/27 2} 122. Kh1 {0} Rh8 {-3.60/29 0} 123. Kg1 {0 (Td1)} Rgg8 {-3.34/24 0} 124. Kh1 {0 (Dd1)} Qe8 {-3.16/25 0} 125. Kg1 {0} Bxh4 {-3.25/33 0} 126. gxh4 {2} Rg7 {-3.16/32 0} 127. Bg3 {1 (Cg3)} Qe7 {-3.25/30 0} 128. Kh1 {0 (Fe1)} Kc8 {-3.16/30 0} 129. Kg1 {0 (Fe1)} Rhg8 { -3.16/29 0} 130. Qe1 {1 (Fe1)} Rh7 {-3.16/28 0} 131. Kh1 {0 (De2)} Qe8 { -3.16/27 0} 132. Kg1 {0 (De2)} Kb7 {-3.16/31 0} 133. Kh1 {0 (De2)} Rc7 { -3.16/27 0} 134. Kg1 {0 (Dd1)} Rh8 {-3.16/32 0} 135. Kh1 {0 (De2)} Kb6 {1} 136. Kg1 {-3.25/27 0} Rc8 {-3.16/31 0} 137. Kh1 {0 (Dd1)} Qe7 {-3.16/27 0} 138. Kg1 {0 (Dd1)} Qf6 {-3.16/26 0} 139. Kh1 {0 (De2)} Rhg8 {-3.16/28 0} 140. Kg1 { 0 (Dd1)} Qf7 {-3.16/29 0} 141. Kh1 {0 (Dd1)} Rcd8 {-3.16/27 0} 142. Kg1 { 0 (De2)} Rg7 {-3.16/29 0} 143. Kh1 {0 (De2)} Ra8 {-3.16/29 0} 144. Kg1 {0 (De2) } Kb7 {-3.16/27 0} 145. Kh1 {0 (De2)} Qe7 {-3.16/28 0} 146. Kg1 {0 (De2)} Rgg8 {-3.16/28 0} 147. Kh1 {1 (De2)} Ra6 {-3.16/27 0} 148. Kg1 {0 (De2)} Ka7 { -3.16/27 0} 149. Kh1 {1 (Dd1)} Rd6 {-3.16/25 0} 150. Kg1 {0 (De2)} Kb6 { -3.16/29 0} 151. Rc1 {1 (Dd1)} Nxc1 {-4.65/19 0} 152. Qxc1 {0} Rdd8 {-4.18/32 0 } 153. Qe1 {1 (Cd2)} Nd6 {-4.27/25 0} 154. Kh1 {0 (Cd2)} Ra8 {-4.27/23 0} 155. Kg1 {0 (Cd2)} Rac8 {-4.27/27 0} 156. Qa1 {1 (Cd2)} Nb7 {-4.27/26 0} 157. Qb1 { 0 (Cd2)} Nd6 {-4.27/28 0} 158. Qc2 {0 (De1)} Ra8 {-4.27/26 0} 159. Nd2 {1 (Dc1) } Rad8 {-4.27/25 0} 160. Nb1 {0 (Dd1)} Nb7 {-4.27/24 0} 161. Kh1 {4 (Cd2)} Na5 {-4.27/24 0} 162. Kg1 {2 (Cd2)} Nb3 {-4.27/24 0} 163. Kh1 {0 (Cd2)} Qd7 { -4.27/24 0} 164. Kg1 {0 (Cd2)} Ra8 {-4.27/27 0} 165. Kh1 {0 (Dd1)} Rac8 { -4.27/24 0} 166. Kg1 {0 (Cd2)} Na5 {-4.27/26 0} 167. Qd1 {1 (Cd2)} Nb3 { -4.27/31 0} 168. Kh1 {2 (Cd2)} Qc6 {-4.27/32 0} 169. Kg1 {0 (Cd2)} Qd7 { -4.27/20 0} 170. Kh1 {0 (Rf2)} Na5 {0} 171. Kg1 {-4.27/22 0 (Cd2)} Rcd8 {0} 172. Kh1 {-4.27/21 0 (Cd2)} Nb7 {-4.27/21 0} 173. Kg1 {0} Ra8 {-4.27/39 0} 174. Kh1 {0 (Cd2)} Nd6 {0} 175. Kg1 {-4.27/19 0 (Cd2)} Qc6 {-4.27/19 0} 176. Kh1 { 0 (Rf1)} Kc7 {-4.27/17 0} 177. Kg1 {0} Rgc8 {-4.27/35 0} 178. Kh1 {1 (Dc1)} Rh8 {-4.27/19 0} 179. Kg1 {0} Rac8 {-4.27/33 0} 180. Kh1 {1 (Cd2)} Kd7 {-4.27/20 0} 181. Kg1 {0 (Cd2)} Ke7 {-4.27/21 0} 182. Kh1 {0 (Cd2)} Kf7 {-4.27/17 0} 183. Kg1 {0 (Cd2)} Kg6 {-4.27/19 0} 184. Kh1 {0 (Cd2)} Ra8 {-4.27/17 0} 185. Kg1 { 0 (Dc2)} Rhc8 {-4.27/19 0} 186. Kh1 {0 (Dc1)} Qb7 {-4.27/19 0} 187. Kg1 { 0 (Dc1)} Kf7 {-4.27/19 0} 188. Kh1 {0 (Dc1)} Qd7 {-4.27/19 0} 189. Kg1 {0 (Dc1) } Kg6 {-4.27/18 0} 190. Qd2 {0 (Dc1)} Kf7 {-4.27/19 0} 191. Qd1 {0 (Dc2)} Ke7 { 0} 192. Kh1 {-4.27/17 0 (Dc1)} Rh8 {-4.27/17 0} 193. Kg1 {0 (Cd2)} Qc6 { -4.27/15 0} 194. Kh1 {0 (Cd2)} Kd7 {-4.18/14 0} 195. Kg1 {0} Kc7 {-3.89/22 0} 196. Kh1 {1 (Td2)} Rac8 {-4.08/10 0} 197. Kg1 {0 (Lag: Av=0.63s, max=1.0s) (Ff2)} 1-0 [/pgn]


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Re: The supercomputer has been defeated by the human.

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I would be curious to know what is your score versus Leela (LC0)? :D
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Re: The supercomputer has been defeated by the human.

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Nice to see you can still win on lag against top engine. Do you score win against Leela as well ? You might try on lichess.org to play against it. There is many bot. You can probably get many win on lag as well.
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Re: The supercomputer has been defeated by the human.

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Hello Ted.
My rating playing LC0 it is 0% now in playchess.com.
I would like to try playing LC0, becouse of I belive I could catch LC0 too.
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Re: The supercomputer has been defeated by the human.

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Father wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:12 pm Hello Ted.
My rating playing LC0 it is 0% now in playchess.com.
I would like to try playing LC0, becouse of I belive I could catch LC0 too.
Best regards,
Pablo
Anytime you would like to try again just say. I have the same Lc0 as is playing in TCEC right now. Same settings, similar hardware
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Werewolf.
Thank you very much for give you to me the oportunity of playinng chess against your great hardware and LC0 software and chess computer machine.
I am feeling I Will catch to LC0 soon and beat to LC0, and do the same against alphaZero.
Best regards,
Pablo
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Re: The supercomputer has been defeated by the human.

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Father wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:28 am Werewolf.
Thank you very much for give you to me the oportunity of playinng chess against your great hardware and LC0 software and chess computer machine.
I am feeling I Will catch to LC0 soon and beat to LC0, and do the same against alphaZero.
Best regards,
Pablo

Very doubtful,

Lc0 understands perfectly how to break down your play. And Thinks the "supercomputer" played like a chump!

Here is Lc0 analysis....

[pgn] [Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "????.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "New game"] [Black "?"] [Result "*"] [Annotator "Tactical Analysis 2.10 (5s)"] [PlyCount "393"] {D00: 1 d4 d5: Unusual lines} 1. d4 d5 2. e3 Nf6 3. f4 Bf5 4. c3 e6 5. Nf3 c5 ( 5... Nbd7 6. Be2 h6 7. O-O Be7 8. Nbd2 Ng4 9. Nb3 O-O 10. Ne5 Ngf6 11. g4 Bh7 12. g5 hxg5 13. fxg5 Nxe5 14. gxf6 gxf6 15. dxe5 fxe5 16. Rf2 Bh4 17. Rg2+ Kh8 18. Bd3 e4 19. Bf1 Qf6 20. Qe2 {Jacobsen,P (1590)-Syndergaard,S (1830) Helsingor 2018 0-1}) 6. Bd3 Bd6 7. O-O O-O 8. Re1 $146 {-2.28/8} (8. Ne5 $17 { -1.51/8} Nc6 9. Qe2 Bxd3 10. Nxd3 c4 11. Nf2 Qc7 12. g3 Ne8 13. e4 f5 14. e5 Be7 15. Nd2 b5 16. Nf3 b4 17. Ng5 Bxg5 18. fxg5 bxc3 19. bxc3 Qa5 20. g6 Qxc3 21. Bb2 Qa5 22. Qh5 h6 23. Bc1 {Reiser,C (2106)-Lowitz,T (1823) Fuerth 2001 0-1 (59)}) 8... Re8 9. Qe2 Nc6 10. a3 {-3.06/11} (10. Ne5 $142 {-1.93/8}) 10... c4 $19 11. Bc2 Na5 12. Qd1 Bxc2 13. Qxc2 Ne4 {-2.05/11} (13... Nb3 $142 { -3.49/11} 14. Ra2 Qb6) 14. Nbd2 f5 15. Nf1 {-3.17/8} (15. Nxe4 $142 {-2.11/8} fxe4 16. Nd2) 15... Rf8 16. Re2 h6 17. g3 $2 {-4.34/8} (17. Bd2 {-2.41/8}) 17... Qe8 18. Rg2 b5 19. Qe2 Nb3 20. Rb1 a5 21. Bd2 g5 22. Be1 g4 23. Nh4 { -9.16/8} (23. N3d2 $142 {-4.83/10} Nbxd2 24. Nxd2) 23... Be7 24. Kh1 Kf7 25. Kg1 Qd8 26. Kh1 h5 27. Kg1 Rh8 28. Kh1 Bf6 29. Kg1 Qe7 30. Kh1 Qd8 31. Kg1 Qe7 32. Kh1 Rhg8 33. Kg1 Kg7 34. Kh1 Qd8 35. Kg1 Qe7 36. Kh1 Qd8 37. Kg1 Rb8 38. Kh1 Kf7 39. Kg1 Qe7 40. Kh1 Qd8 41. Kg1 Qe7 {-4.70/9} (41... Be7 $142 {-13.62/8 } 42. Qd1 b4 43. axb4 axb4) 42. Kh1 {-6.64/8} (42. Qd1 $142 {-4.70/9} Ke8 43. Re2) 42... Ke8 43. Kg1 {-8.24/8} (43. Qd1 $142 {-4.56/9} Kd7 44. Re2) 43... Ra8 44. Kh1 Kd7 {-5.03/9} (44... Qb7 $142 {-11.02/8} 45. Nd2 Nbxd2 46. Bxd2 Qd7) 45. Kg1 {-7.87/9} (45. Qd1 $142 {-5.03/9} Kc6 46. Qc2) 45... Kc6 46. Kh1 { -9.59/8} (46. Qd1 $142 {-4.84/9} Rab8 47. Re2) 46... Kc7 {-4.06/9} (46... Qb7 $142 {-9.59/8} 47. Nd2 Nbxd2 48. Bxd2 Bxh4 49. gxh4 Rgb8) 47. Kg1 Kb7 48. Kh1 Kb6 49. Kg1 Kc7 50. Kh1 {-6.83/8} (50. Qd1 $142 {-4.11/9} Rg7 51. Re2) 50... Kb7 51. Kg1 Kc7 52. Kh1 Kb7 53. Kg1 Kb6 54. Kh1 Rab8 55. Kg1 Kc7 56. Kh1 Kb7 57. Kg1 Kc7 58. Kh1 Kb6 59. Kg1 Ka6 60. Kh1 Ra8 61. Kg1 Qd8 62. Kh1 Kb6 63. Kg1 Kc6 64. Kh1 Kd6 {-4.11/11} (64... Be7 $142 {-14.11/9} 65. Qc2 Bf6) 65. Kg1 { -9.13/10} (65. Qd1 $142 {-4.11/11} Kc6 66. Re2) 65... Kd7 66. Kh1 Kc6 67. Kg1 Rc8 {-4.81/10} (67... Be7 $142 {-12.61/9} 68. Qc2 Bf6) 68. Kh1 {-10.82/9} (68. Qd1 $142 {-4.81/10} Rg7 69. Re2) 68... Qe7 $2 {-3.72/10} (68... Be7 {-10.82/9} 69. Rd1 Bf6) 69. Kg1 Kd7 70. Kh1 Rg7 71. Kg1 Ra8 72. Kh1 Kd6 73. Kg1 Rb8 74. Kh1 {-4.37/9} (74. Qd1 $142 {-3.10/9}) 74... Rbg8 75. Kg1 a4 76. Kh1 Kc6 77. Kg1 Qd8 78. Kh1 Rh8 79. Kg1 Rc7 80. Kh1 $2 {-4.04/12} (80. Qd1 {-2.10/8}) 80... Kb6 81. Kg1 {-5.52/11} (81. Qd1 $142 {-3.72/11}) 81... Re8 {-2.53/9} (81... b4 $142 {-5.52/11} 82. cxb4 Rg7) 82. Kh1 $2 {-7.42/10} (82. Qd1 {-2.53/9}) 82... Rh8 {-3.60/10} (82... b4 $142 {-7.42/10} 83. cxb4 Rg7) 83. Kg1 {-5.19/10} (83. Qd1 $142 {-3.60/10}) 83... Rh6 {-2.08/9} (83... b4 $142 $1 {-5.19/10} 84. cxb4 Rg8) 84. Kh1 $2 {-4.92/11} (84. Qd1 {-2.08/9}) 84... Rhh7 85. Kg1 {-6.26/10} ( 85. Qd1 $142 {-4.46/11} Rcg7 86. Re2) 85... Ka7 86. Kh1 {-5.14/10} (86. Qd1 $142 {-3.31/10}) 86... Kb8 87. Kg1 Rh6 {-2.15/9} (87... b4 $142 $1 {-3.67/10} 88. cxb4 Rcg7) 88. Kh1 {-3.17/10} (88. Qc2 $142 {-2.15/9}) 88... Rch7 89. Kg1 Qe7 90. Kh1 Rg7 91. Kg1 Ka7 92. Kh1 Ka6 93. Kg1 Rh8 94. Kh1 Kb6 95. Kg1 Rd8 96. Kh1 {-3.62/11} (96. Qd1 $142 {-2.58/10}) 96... Ka7 97. Kg1 Rdg8 98. Kh1 { -3.34/10} (98. Qd1 $142 {-2.13/9}) 98... Kb6 99. Kg1 Kc6 100. Kh1 Kd7 101. Kg1 Ke8 102. Kh1 Kd7 103. Kg1 Kc7 104. Kh1 Qd7 105. Kg1 Kb8 106. Kh1 {-3.02/9} ( 106. Qd1 $142 {-2.07/9}) 106... Qd8 107. Kg1 Rc7 108. Kh1 {-3.51/10} (108. Qd1 $142 {-2.34/9}) 108... Qe7 109. Kg1 $2 {-5.10/10} (109. Qd1 {-3.09/10}) 109... Ra7 {-2.30/9} (109... b4 $142 $1 {-5.10/10} 110. cxb4 Rb7) 110. Kh1 $2 { -3.98/10} (110. Qd1 {-2.30/9 was worth a try.}) 110... Qe8 {-2.25/9} (110... b4 $142 $1 {-3.98/10} 111. cxb4 Rc7) 111. Kg1 Rag7 112. Kh1 Qd8 113. Kg1 Be7 114. Kh1 Qe8 115. Kg1 Kb7 116. Kh1 {-2.66/9} (116. Qd1 $142 {-1.86/9}) 116... Bf6 117. Kg1 Ka7 118. Kh1 {-3.01/9} (118. Qd1 $142 {-1.94/9}) 118... Rh7 119. Kg1 Qd8 120. Kh1 {-3.50/10} (120. Qc2 $142 {-2.14/9}) 120... Rgg7 {-1.98/9} (120... b4 $142 $1 {-3.50/10} 121. cxb4 Kb8) 121. Kg1 {-2.70/9} (121. Qd1 {-1.98/9 keeps fighting.}) 121... Kb8 122. Kh1 {-3.13/9} (122. Qc2 $142 {-2.07/9}) 122... Rh8 123. Kg1 Rgg8 124. Kh1 Qe8 125. Kg1 Bxh4 {-1.24/9} (125... b4 $1 $19 {-2.18/8} 126. cxb4 Rg7) 126. gxh4 $17 Rg7 127. Bg3 $2 {-3.74/12} (127. Qd1 $17 {-1.16/8}) 127... Qe7 $2 {-1.24/8} (127... b4 $19 {-3.74/12} 128. cxb4 Rhh7) 128. Kh1 {-2.05/8} (128. Be1 $17 {-1.24/8}) 128... Kc8 129. Kg1 Rhg8 {-1.07/7} (129... b4 $142 {-1.57/8} 130. cxb4 Qf6) 130. Qe1 {-2.00/9} (130. Be1 $17 { -1.07/7}) 130... Rh7 {-1.18/8} (130... b4 $19 {-2.00/9} 131. cxb4 Qe8) 131. Kh1 $2 {-2.74/10 [#]} (131. Qd1 $17 {-1.18/8}) 131... Qe8 {-1.47/9} (131... b4 $1 $19 {-2.74/10} 132. cxb4 Nd6) 132. Kg1 $2 {-3.39/11} (132. Rc2 $17 {-1.47/9}) 132... Kb7 {-1.86/9} (132... b4 $142 {-3.39/11} 133. cxb4 Rb7) 133. Kh1 $2 { -5.74/10} (133. Rc2 {-1.86/9}) 133... Rc7 134. Kg1 {-4.94/10} (134. Nd2 $142 { -3.49/10} Nexd2 135. Rxd2) 134... Rh8 135. Kh1 {-5.06/10} (135. Rc2 $142 { -3.30/10}) 135... Kb6 136. Kg1 {-8.22/10} (136. Nd2 $142 {-4.42/11} Nexd2 137. Rxd2) 136... Rc8 {-3.43/11} (136... b4 $142 {-8.22/10} 137. axb4 Qd8) 137. Kh1 $2 {-9.04/9} (137. Nd2 {-3.43/11} Nexd2 138. Rxd2) 137... Qe7 {-4.20/11} ( 137... b4 $142 {-9.04/9} 138. axb4 Qe7) 138. Kg1 {-8.94/10} (138. Nd2 $142 { -4.20/11} Nexd2 139. Rxd2) 138... Qf6 $2 {-2.51/10} (138... b4 {-8.94/10} 139. cxb4 c3 140. bxc3 Nxc3) 139. Kh1 $2 {-6.87/10} (139. Nd2 {-2.51/10}) 139... Rhg8 $2 {-2.72/10} (139... b4 {-6.87/10} 140. cxb4 Rc7) 140. Kg1 $2 {-6.15/10} (140. Nd2 {-2.72/10}) 140... Qf7 141. Kh1 {-9.48/10} (141. Qd1 $142 {-4.03/12} Na5 142. Nd2) 141... Rcd8 $2 {-2.56/11} (141... b4 {-9.48/10} 142. axb4 Kc6) 142. Kg1 $2 {-4.42/11} (142. Rc2 {-2.56/11}) 142... Rg7 $2 {-1.42/9} (142... b4 $19 {-4.42/11} 143. cxb4 Qg6) 143. Kh1 $2 {-5.58/10} (143. Qd1 $17 {-1.42/9}) 143... Ra8 $2 {-2.20/10} (143... b4 {-5.58/10} 144. cxb4 Rh7) 144. Kg1 { -3.66/10} (144. Qd1 $142 {-2.20/10}) 144... Kb7 {-1.90/9} (144... b4 $142 { -3.66/10} 145. cxb4 Qg6) 145. Kh1 $2 {-4.94/10} (145. Rc2 {-1.90/9}) 145... Qe7 {-2.33/9} (145... b4 $142 {-4.94/10} 146. cxb4 Rc8) 146. Kg1 {-3.82/10} (146. Qe2 $142 {-2.33/9}) 146... Rgg8 {-2.07/9} (146... b4 $142 {-3.82/10} 147. cxb4 Rf8) 147. Kh1 $2 {-5.61/10} (147. Rc2 {-2.07/9 is tougher.}) 147... Ra6 { -2.42/9} (147... b4 $142 {-5.61/10} 148. cxb4 Rg7) 148. Kg1 $2 {-4.00/10} (148. Rc2 {-2.42/9}) 148... Ka7 {-2.05/9} (148... b4 $142 {-4.00/10} 149. cxb4 {[#]} c3 $1) 149. Kh1 $2 {-6.55/10} (149. Nd2 {-2.05/9}) 149... Rd6 $2 {-2.29/10} ( 149... b4 {-6.55/10} 150. cxb4 Rc8) 150. Kg1 $2 {-4.05/10} (150. Rc2 {-2.29/10} ) 150... Kb6 {-2.00/10} (150... b4 $142 {-4.05/10} 151. cxb4 Rd7) 151. Rc1 $2 { -9.64/10} (151. Nd2 {-2.00/10}) 151... Nxc1 152. Qxc1 Rdd8 $2 {-1.94/8} (152... b4 {-7.93/9} 153. cxb4 Rd7) 153. Qe1 $2 {-12.80/9} (153. Nd2 {-1.94/8}) 153... Nd6 {-4.88/9} (153... b4 $142 {-12.80/9} 154. cxb4 Kc6) 154. Kh1 {-19.82/8} ( 154. Rc2 $142 {-4.88/9} Rd7 155. Nd2) 154... Ra8 {-9.10/8} (154... b4 $142 { -19.82/8} 155. cxb4 Rc8) 155. Kg1 Rac8 {-5.94/10} (155... b4 $142 {-15.50/8} 156. cxb4 Rgc8) 156. Qa1 Nb7 {-4.63/9} (156... b4 $142 {-14.53/8} 157. cxb4 Qd7 ) 157. Qb1 {-7.88/9} (157. Nd2 $142 {-4.63/9}) 157... Nd6 158. Qc2 Ra8 159. Nd2 Rad8 $2 {-1.78/7} (159... b4 {-12.70/9} 160. cxb4 Qd7) 160. Nb1 $19 Nb7 { -1.33/7} ({Better is} 160... Ra8 $19 {-1.87/6} 161. Qe2 Rh8) 161. Kh1 Na5 { -1.10/7} ({Black should play} 161... Nd6 {-1.57/7} 162. Qe2 Qf6) 162. Kg1 Nb3 { -0.87/7} (162... Nb7 $142 {-1.32/7} 163. Nd2 Nd6) 163. Kh1 Qd7 {Threatens to win with ...Rg7.} 164. Kg1 Ra8 165. Kh1 Rac8 166. Kg1 Na5 167. Qd1 {-1.76/7} ( 167. Re2 $17 {-0.93/7}) 167... Nb3 {-0.88/8} (167... Nb7 $19 {-1.76/7} 168. Kf1 Rge8) 168. Kh1 Qc6 169. Kg1 Qd7 {Strongly threatening ...Na5.} 170. Kh1 Na5 171. Kg1 Rcd8 {-0.64/7} (171... Nb7 $17 {-1.18/7 Hoping for ...Nd6.} 172. Nd2 Rc7) 172. Kh1 {-1.08/7} (172. Rf2 $15 {-0.64/7 should be considered.} Nb7 173. Nd2) 172... Nb7 $17 173. Kg1 Ra8 {...Qe7 is the strong threat.} 174. Kh1 { -2.38/11} (174. Rc2 $17 {-1.23/8}) 174... Nd6 175. Kg1 Qc6 176. Kh1 {-2.86/10} (176. Rc2 {-1.63/8 is a better defense.}) 176... Kc7 177. Kg1 Rgc8 178. Kh1 $2 {-5.33/9} (178. Rc2 {-2.74/9}) 178... Rh8 $2 {-1.68/7} (178... b4 {-5.33/9} 179. cxb4 Ne4) 179. Kg1 {-2.09/9} (179. Rc2 $142 {-1.68/7}) 179... Rac8 180. Kh1 {-2.92/8} (180. Be1 {-1.78/8 might work better.}) 180... Kd7 181. Kg1 Ke7 182. Kh1 Kf7 183. Kg1 $2 {-4.96/10} (183. Be1 {-2.35/8}) 183... Kg6 {-2.19/10} (183... b4 $142 {-4.96/10} 184. cxb4 Ne4) 184. Kh1 $2 {-4.78/10} (184. Be1 { -2.19/10}) 184... Ra8 185. Kg1 {-4.41/11} (185. Be1 {-3.02/10 was called for.}) 185... Rhc8 186. Kh1 $2 {-6.68/9} (186. Rc2 {-3.09/9}) 186... Qb7 187. Kg1 { -4.82/9} (187. Be1 {-3.44/10 was necessary.}) 187... Kf7 188. Kh1 $2 {-5.52/9} (188. Be1 {-3.00/9}) 188... Qd7 189. Kg1 $2 {-5.74/11} (189. Be1 {-3.46/10}) 189... Kg6 {-2.49/9} (189... b4 $142 {-5.74/11 aiming for ...bxa3.} 190. cxb4 Ne4) 190. Qd2 $2 {-5.71/10} (190. Be1 {-2.49/9}) 190... Kf7 191. Qd1 $2 { -6.06/10} (191. Be1 {-2.91/10}) 191... Ke7 {-2.79/10} (191... b4 $142 {-6.06/10 } 192. cxb4 Ne4) 192. Kh1 $2 {-6.63/9} (192. Be1 {-2.79/10}) 192... Rh8 $2 { -2.33/10} (192... b4 {-6.63/9 And now ...bxa3 would win.} 193. cxb4 Ne4) 193. Kg1 Qc6 {-1.72/8} (193... b4 $142 {-2.90/10} 194. cxb4 Ne4) 194. Kh1 $2 { -5.74/10} (194. Rc2 {-1.72/8}) 194... Kd7 {-2.72/11} (194... b4 $142 {-5.74/10} 195. cxb4 Nb5) 195. Kg1 Kc7 $2 {-1.07/7} (195... b4 $19 {-3.09/10 has better winning chances. White must now prevent ...bxa3.} 196. cxb4 Nb5) 196. Kh1 $2 { -3.13/10} (196. Rc2 $17 {-1.07/7}) 196... Rac8 197. Kg1 {Accuracy: White = 29%, Black = 8%.} * [/pgn]
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Re: The supercomputer has been defeated by the human.

Post by Nay Lin Tun »

75......a4??? is very dumb. Played like 1200 rated people.
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Re: The supercomputer has been defeated by the human.

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Nay Lin Tun wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:44 am 75......a4??? is very dumb. Played like 1200 rated people.
Lc0 thinks there is something wrong with the computer he was playing.

I have never seen a computer player with such a low accuracy percentage.

Accuracy: White = 29%, Black = 8%. :shock:
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Can alpha zero understand the five chess moves in the first ten moves?

Post by Father »

Good evening and good morning for everyone; a special greeting to artificial intelligence.

Today night and day simultaneously, and real time in the weeb, I wonder if artificial intelligence really has the capacity of understanding and reasoning as well as the understanding of the abstract thinking of the human being, abstract thought that gives us our human brain.
The truth is that Lc0 in this game was on the verge of falling into a precipice and that the truth is that the deep thought of Lc0 was less than a second of collapse in a short circuit.

The artificial intelligence electrodes were slipping in the direction of the quicksand.

Five movements of my bishop within ten promises played overheated the reasoning of artificial intelligence that did not have the slightest idea in deciphering the reason for these plays of premature bishop by the human arm.

Is it really alpha zero and Lc0 invincible on the part of the human being?

Let us say that one machine and another can be defeated, obviously not in a match, but yes, in a series of games of abstract reasoning.

Cordially,
Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Father and Grand-Father playchess.com

Note.
I am really happy for the generosity of the people who put the chess machines at the service of all the players; 'thanks for the games.

Classic. Lc0 v0.22.0-dev (3 cores): 11.4 plies; 79kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz 3600MHz, (8 CPUs) Ping Mrtambourineman = 1.0s New Elo: 1987 (+32), Classic.

[pgn][Event "Rated game, 16m+2s"] [Site "Engine Room"] [Date "2019.04.08"] [Round "?"] [White "Grand-father"] [Black "Romanzev"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "A45"] [WhiteElo "1957"] [BlackElo "2504"] [PlyCount "172"] [EventDate "2019.04.08"] [SourceTitle "playchess.com"] [TimeControl "960+2"] 1. d4 {4} Nf6 {B 0} 2. e3 {5} e6 {0.23/13 31} 3. c3 {14} b6 {-0.16/12 26} 4. Bc4 {9} Bb7 {-0.64/14 24} 5. Bf1 {6} c5 {-1.04/13 35} 6. f4 {6} Be7 {-1.17/14 38} 7. Nf3 {6} O-O {-1.13/16 32} 8. Bc4 {22} Qc7 {-1.50/13 21} 9. Bd3 {13} Be4 {-1.58/19 7} 10. Bxe4 {10} Nxe4 {-1.62/21 6} 11. Nbd2 {5} d5 {-1.65/18 11} 12. g3 {23} Nd7 {-2.71/12 19} 13. O-O {10} Ndf6 {-2.68/13 12} 14. Nxe4 {19} Nxe4 { -2.72/12 11} 15. Nd2 {2} Nd6 {-3.04/11 19} 16. Nb1 {41} b5 {-4.38/11 26} 17. Qd3 {22} a5 {-5.60/12 22} 18. a3 {7} b4 {-6.10/14 16} 19. Bd2 {9} b3 {-6.92/11 19} 20. Bc1 {51} a4 {-7.14/11 3} 21. Nd2 {12} Qc6 {-7.29/11 3} 22. Nf3 {7} f6 { -7.31/11 9} 23. Bd2 {8} Nc4 {-9.96/10 20} 24. Rfb1 {11} Qb5 {-14.62/11 22} 25. Qf1 {7} Qe8 {-16.30/11 12} 26. Qd3 {19} Qg6 {-21.04/11 21} 27. Qxg6 {14} hxg6 { -17.01/14 7} 28. Kf2 {8} g5 {-16.11/12 16} 29. Be1 {7} cxd4 {-15.89/15 13} 30. cxd4 {17} g4 {-16.00/15 10} 31. Nd2 {7} Nd6 {-16.19/17 3} 32. Rc1 {6} Rfc8 { -16.39/14 4} 33. Ke2 {6} Kf7 {-16.43/14 8} 34. Kd3 {4} f5 {-19.06/11 23} 35. Rab1 {14} Nb5 {-18.89/11 38} 36. Ra1 {7} Nd6 {-18.55/11 42} 37. Rab1 {8} Nb5 { -19.14/11 31} 38. Ra1 {5} g5 {-17.34/12 24} 39. Nf1 {23} gxf4 {-16.93/13 27} 40. exf4 {9} Bf6 {-17.12/14 25} 41. Bf2 {9} Ke8 {-21.92/10 26} 42. Rab1 {14} Kd7 {-21.50/10 21} 43. Nd2 {7} Nd6 {-23.92/9 28} 44. Nf1 {8} Rh8 {-23.28/9 34} 45. Bg1 {15} Bd8 {-27.62/9 20} 46. Be3 {16} Bb6 {-27.06/9 25} 47. Bd2 {10} Nb5 {-27.54/10 17} 48. Be3 {5} Rac8 {-27.43/10 13} 49. Bg1 {14} Nd6 {-28.17/10 9} 50. Ne3 {30} Ne4 {-28.94/10 8} 51. Nf1 {12} Ba5 {-26.28/9 19} 52. Be3 {10} Nd6 {-25.02/10 23} 53. Bd2 {18} Bxd2 {-23.94/11 4} 54. Kxd2 {11} Nc4+ {-24.08/10 0} 55. Ke2 {6} Rc6 {-21.96/9 22} 56. Re1 {26} Ke8 {-21.72/9 20} 57. Kd3 {5} Kf7 { -19.95/10 15} 58. Re2 {12} Nd6 {-19.04/10 0} 59. Ree1 {5} Rhc8 {-18.33/9 11} 60. Ne3 {8} Ne4 {-16.37/9 8} 61. Rg1 {17} Ke7 {-15.12/9 9} 62. Rg2 {8} Kd7 { -15.15/8 7} 63. Re1 {17} R8c7 {-14.25/8 6} 64. Rf1 {14} Kc8 {-13.66/8 4} 65. Rd1 {13} Rc1 {-19.67/8 2} 66. Rxc1 {22} Rxc1 {-31.19/9 1} 67. Re2 {11} Rb1 { -30.98/9 5} 68. Rg2 {4} Kc7 {-27.01/9 3} 69. Re2 {4} Kb7 {-24.67/9 2} 70. Rg2 { 4} Kc6 {-20.23/9 2} 71. Re2 {5} Rc1 {-17.48/9 2} 72. Rg2 {3} Re1 {-16.43/10 2} 73. Re2 {4} Rh1 {-15.04/10 1} 74. Rg2 {7} Kd7 {-15.17/10 0} 75. Ke2 {4} Rc1 { -14.83/10 4} 76. Kd3 {4} Ra1 {-14.69/10 3} 77. Re2 {4} Ke8 {-13.60/10 3} 78. Rg2 {3} Kd8 {-14.15/10 1} 79. Ke2 {5} Kd7 {-13.55/9 3} 80. Kd3 {3} Kc7 { -12.99/9 2} 81. Re2 {3} Kb6 {-11.58/9 3} 82. Rg2 {3} Kb5 {-10.69/10 2} 83. Re2 {3} Rh1 {-11.62/12 1} 84. Rg2 {6} Nd6 {-15.26/12 0} 85. Kd2 {10} Nc4+ {-21.20/ 11 1} 86. Nxc4 {8} Kxc4 {-24.62/12 0 Grand-father resigns (Lag: Av=0.54s, max=0.7s)} 0-1 [/pgn]
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.