LC0 finally?

[Werewolf]

Hasn’t the current network saturated? Why haven’t we moved to a larger net?

[yanquis1972]

am wondering the same thing, if it's still a test-run they may want to be absolutely sure of the limit.

[Werewolf]

am wondering the same thing, if it's still a test-run they may want to be absolutely sure of the limit.

I did actually wonder if the reason was another restart was due, but thought this time it would be different.

Ho hum. Maybe it’s called LC0 because it’s Elo keeps going back to zero

[Rebel]

am wondering the same thing, if it's still a test-run they may want to be absolutely sure of the limit.

I did actually wonder if the reason was another restart was due, but thought this time it would be different.

Ho hum. Maybe it’s called LC0 because it’s Elo keeps going back to zero

Elswhere

Id396 is a new net without input from broken games:

Net has been replaced with a new bootstrap net with 50 move rule normalization and learnable batch normalization beta bias. It will likely be weaker to start but will hopefully grow stronger quickly. Thanks to scs-ben!

scs-ben - 06/02/2018
192x15 network is being bootstrapped. Batch size is 512. Using games 7 million to current but excluding 10.5-14 million due to likely bad data. Batch normalization, 50 move rule plane normalization, test/train data separation are all included.

[Werewolf]

It’s good they keep trying things, but this net doesn’t look that good, unless the numbers are skewed. Perhaps another restart?

[Rebel]

Well, there was a bug, hence the restart.

As said -

It will likely be weaker to start but will hopefully grow stronger quickly. Thanks to scs-ben!

This seems to be exactly the case.

Patience, patience and hoping for no new bugs

[Uri Blass]

Well, there was a bug, hence the restart.

As said -

It will likely be weaker to start but will hopefully grow stronger quickly. Thanks to scs-ben!

This seems to be exactly the case.

Patience, patience and hoping for no new bugs

what about having correct rating graph by calculating the rating in the graph not based on self play but based on games against known opponents?

[yanquis1972]

that's going on in the background & not-so-in-the-background...

http://lczero.org/?full_elo=1 click elo estimates

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... li=1#gid=0

[Leto]

that's going on in the background & not-so-in-the-background...

http://lczero.org/?full_elo=1 click elo estimates

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... li=1#gid=0

I wish I understood that second spreadsheet, looks so confusing to me. This one I can understand:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

[yanquis1972]

true, i linked the second bc i know it's official, but that one's simpler.