Booot 6.2 POP x64 problem ... epd can't load!

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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Booot 6.2 POP x64 problem ... epd can't load!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Alex,

good that you read it.

If you offer an update ...
It would be great to have it with version 6.2.

If you fixed that with a newer version 6.3 with other changes maybe you do I have to restart the complete analysis 15 days still running.

So my wish if possible ...
To have it in version 6.2.

Thanks and Best
Frank

Second problem I have with Booot analysis under Shredder GUI ...
Booot need two-three seconds before the analyses started:

Have a look here (acs):

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r1bqkb1r/pp1p1ppp/2p2n2/4p3/2B1P3/2P2Q2/PP1P1PPP/RNB1K2R w KQkq - id "14510"; ce 0; acd 31; acs 62; acn 505451135; pv d4 ;
r1bqk1nr/pppp1ppp/1b6/4p3/BP2P3/5n2/P1PP1PPP/RNBQ1RK1 w kq - id "14511"; ce 7; acd 31; acs 63; acn 527664430; pv Qxf3 ;
r1bqk1nr/pp1p1ppp/2p5/1Bb1P3/3p4/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQ1RK1 w kq - id "14512"; ce 20; acd 31; acs 62; acn 505927110; pv Bc4 ;
r1bqk2r/pppp1ppp/5n2/2b5/2BpP3/8/PPPPQPPP/RNB1K2R w KQkq - id "14513"; ce 0; acd 33; acs 62; acn 489223959; pv d3 ;
r1bqk1nr/pppp1ppp/1b6/4p3/2B1P3/2P5/PP1P1PPP/RNBQK2R w KQkq - id "14514"; ce 20; acd 29; acs 63; acn 502022971; pv O-O ;
r1bqk1nr/pp1p1ppp/2p5/2b5/3pP3/8/PPPPBPPP/RNBQ1RK1 w kq - id "14515"; ce 16; acd 32; acs 63; acn 486815527; pv d3 d5 Nd2 Bb6 c4 dxe4 Nxe4 Ne7 Bh5 O-O Bg5 Bf5 Re1 h6 Bf4 Ba5 Bd2 Bxd2 Qxd2 Qc7 Ng3 Be6 Re4 c5 Qe2 Nc6 Re1 ;
r1bqk2r/ppppnppp/8/1Bb5/3pP3/5Q2/PPPP1PPP/RNB2RK1 w kq - id "14516"; ce 25; acd 33; acs 63; acn 383173383; pv Qh5 b6 d3 O-O Nd2 d5 Nb3 Rb8 a3 Qd6 exd5 Nxd5 Re1 Be6 Bd2 h6 Qf3 c6 Bc4 Kh8 Qg3 Qxg3 hxg3 Rfe8 a4 Kh7 a5 ;
r1b1k1nr/pppp1ppp/5q2/2b1p3/B3P3/6Q1/PPPP1PPP/RNB1K2R w KQkq - id "14517"; ce 34; acd 30; acs 63; acn 495085797; pv d3 ;
And if we compare Booot results with the others ... 3 seconds more ...
Have a look here:
http://www.amateurschach.de/common/feob ... es%201.png
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Re: Booot 6.2 POP x64 problem ... epd can't load!

Post by booot »

Hi Frank!

I will release 6.3 version soon so i will revisit this code in new version.
Also i will check the other stuff connected with FEN and analysis.

Alex.
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Re: Booot 6.2 POP x64 problem ... epd can't load!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Alex,

OK, more interesting for the others (directly a new Booot version).
In this case I will restart with Booot 6.3 ... your engine is to interesting for opening analyzes and I will have it in my FEOBOS project as event.

Thanks for your Support Alex!

Best
Frank

PS: Not sure if your read my last message (I edit the message you answered more times). I wrote a bit to a second problem ... 2-3 seconds lost before Booot starts the analyzes.

Sorry for the long thread here!
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troy32uci
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Re: Booot 6.2 POP x64 problem ... epd can't load!

Post by troy32uci »

The UCI command parser in Booot expects a space after the 'moves' key word in the 'position .. moves' command.
When removing the spaces after 'moves ' epds from S12 are parsed correctly.
Changing

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  if pos('position',s)=1 then
    begin                                                                        //Position
      fen:=StartPositionFen;
      n := pos('moves ',s);
to

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  if pos('position',s)=1 then
    begin                                                                        //Position
      fen:=StartPositionFen;
      n := pos('moves',s);
fixed the issue.

I've converted the the Delphi pascal source code to FPC (Free Pascal) pascal code using Lazarus.
You can find the converted sources and exe created by FPC in the 7z-archive: https://3.sharebylink.com/1/?iEueprSNk4yj

The executable is called MBooot62_64.exe, in which
- the assembler code has been replaced by FPC intrinsics
- few compiler warnings/errors have been fixed
- above fix is applied
This should run on windows x64 systems.

Maarten
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Re: Booot 6.2 POP x64 problem ... Maarten found the issue

Post by Paloma »

Hi Alex,

Maarten Bults (his first Post here :!: ) found the issue.

Look here http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 98&t=64396 8-) :!:
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Re: Booot 6.2 POP x64 problem ... epd can't load!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Maarten,

I have to check that on weekend.
No interest to lost 15 days analyze time for my FEOBOS project.

Thanks for the moment!!

Best
Frank
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Re: Booot 6.2 POP x64 problem ... Maarten found the issue

Post by booot »

Great! Big thanks to Maarten! So I have some time to make things more precise with new version.

Alex.
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Re: Booot 6.2 POP x64 problem ... epd can't load!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Maarten,

it works (tested with the three problematic positions in one epd database).
Have many thanks!

Really great because I don't lost 15 days analyze time.
After the still running Texel analyses I can restart Booot for the last around 10.000 of 26.146 positions.

That was a big help for me.

Best
Frank
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Re: Booot 6.2 POP x64 problem ... epd can't load!

Post by troy32uci »

Hi Frank,

Glad to hear the fix is working!
Please note that MBooot6.2 is not 100% functional equivalent to Booot6.2, since I had to make an adjustment in the code related to the initialization of the bitboards in order to compile using FreePascal. I do not have a Delphi compiler.
My testing of MBooot6.2 against Booot6.2 shows that there is no significant elo difference, although search result on individual positions may differ.

For example: First position from arasan19b.epd
r1bq1r1k/p1pnbpp1/1p2p3/6p1/3PB3/5N2/PPPQ1PPP/2KR3R w - - bm g4; id "arasan19.1"; c0 "J. Polgar-Berkes, Budapest Hunguest Hotels 2003";
which is solved faster by MBooot than Booot.

Analysis by Booot62 (single core)

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FEN: r1bq1r1k/p1pnbpp1/1p2p3/6p1/3PB3/5N2/PPPQ1PPP/2KR3R w - - 0 1 

Booot62:
  14+	00:01	     114.492	407.444	-0,76	Be4xa8
  14	00:01	     146.300	446.036	-0,96	Be4xa8 g5-g4 Qd2-e2 g4xf3 Ba8xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Qd8-d7 g2-g4 Qd7-a4 g4-g5 Nf6-d7 a2-a3 Bc8-a6 Qe2-e4 c7-c5
  15	00:01	     172.687	460.498	-0,95	Be4xa8 g5-g4 Qd2-e2 g4xf3 Ba8xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Qd8-d7 Kc1-b1 Qd7-a4 b2-b3 Qa4-a3 c2-c4 a7-a5 g2-g4 a5-a4 g4-g5 a4xb3
  16+	00:01	     204.978	469.057	-0,80	Be4xa8
  16	00:01	     241.150	483.266	-0,79	Be4xa8 g5-g4 Qd2-e2 g4xf3 Ba8xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Bc8-d7 Kc1-b1 Be7-d6 g2-g3 a7-a5 Rh1-e1 Kh8-g8 c2-c3 Bd6-e7 Qe2-d3
  17	00:01	     304.020	499.211	-0,75	Be4xa8 g5-g4 Qd2-e2 g4xf3 Ba8xf3 Nd7-f6 Kc1-b1 Qd8-d7 h2-h4 Qd7-a4 b2-b3 Qa4-a3 c2-c4 a7-a5 g2-g4 a5-a4 Qe2-b2 Qa3xb2+ Kb1xb2 a4-a3+ Kb2-b1
  18	00:02	     379.295	517.455	-0,75	Be4xa8 g5-g4 Qd2-e2 g4xf3 Ba8xf3 Nd7-f6 Kc1-b1 Qd8-d7 h2-h4 Qd7-a4 b2-b3 Qa4-a3 c2-c4 a7-a5 g2-g4 a5-a4 Qe2-b2 Qa3xb2+ Kb1xb2 a4-a3+ Kb2-b1
  19	00:02	     524.768	525.293	-0,84	Be4xa8 g5-g4 Qd2-e2 g4xf3 Ba8xf3 Nd7-f6 Kc1-b1 Qd8-d6 g2-g3 Bc8-d7 Rh1-e1 Kh8-g8 h2-h4 b6-b5 c2-c3 Rf8-d8 d4-d5 Qd6-c5 d5xe6 Qc5-f5+ Kb1-a1
  20+	00:04	   1.617.924	537.337	-0,84	Be4xa8 g5-g4
  20	00:04	   1.785.399	534.710	-0,94	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Rh1-g1 g4xf3 g2xf3 Be7-f6 Kc1-b1 c7-c5 Rg1-g3 Rf8-e8 d4xc5 Nd7xc5 Qd2xd8 Re8xd8 Rd1xd8+ Bf6xd8 b2-b4 Nc5xe4 f3xe4 Bd8-e7
  21	00:04	   1.933.116	536.380	-0,97	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Rh1-g1 g4xf3 g2xf3 f7-f5 Be4-d3 Ba6-b7 Bd3-c4 Bb7xf3 Rd1-e1 c7-c5 Bc4xe6 Bf3-g4 h2-h4 c5xd4 f2-f3 Bg4xf3 Qd2xd4 Nd7-f6 Qd4xd8 Rf8xd8 Be6xf5
  22+	00:06	   2.842.647	540.735	-0,82	Be4xa8
  22	00:07	   3.182.558	542.543	-0,83	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Kc1-b1 g4xf3 Be4xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Nf6-d5 c2-c3 Kh8-g8 Qd2-c2 b6-b5 g2-g3 Nd5-b6 h4-h5 Be7-g5 h5-h6 Bg5xh6 Rd1-e1 Nb6-c4
  23	00:07	   3.578.324	544.811	-0,86	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Kc1-b1 g4xf3 Be4xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Nf6-d5 c2-c3 Kh8-g8 g2-g3 b6-b5 a2-a3 c7-c6 Rh1-e1 Ba6-b7 Qd2-d3 a7-a5 Bf3xd5 e6xd5 f2-f4 a5-a4
  24	00:09	   4.245.323	547.571	-0,90	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Kc1-b1 g4xf3 Be4xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Nf6-d5 c2-c3 Kh8-g8 g2-g3 b6-b5 a2-a3 c7-c6 Qd2-d3 Ba6-b7 Bf3-e4 a7-a5 Be4-h7+ Kg8-h8 h4-h5 f7-f5 Bh7-g6 Be7-g5 f2-f4 Bg5-e7
  25	00:10	   4.973.548	549.684	-0,90	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Kc1-b1 g4xf3 Be4xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Nf6-d5 c2-c3 Kh8-g8 g2-g3 b6-b5 a2-a3 Ba6-b7 Qd2-d3 Bb7-c6 Rh1-e1 a7-a5 h4-h5 a5-a4 h5-h6 g7xh6 Re1-h1 Be7-g5 Rd1-e1 Qd8-e7
  26+	00:14	   7.155.318	548.636	-0,75	Be4xa8
  26	00:15	   7.816.298	548.781	-0,75	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Kc1-b1 g4xf3 Be4xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Nf6-d5 g2-g3 Kh8-g8 c2-c3 b6-b5 h4-h5 Be7-g5 Qd2-e2 Qd8-d6 Rh1-e1 b5-b4 c3-c4 Qd6-c6 Qe2-e5 f7-f6 Bf3xd5 e6xd5 Qe5xd5+ Qc6xd5 c4xd5
  27	00:24	  12.553.425	550.782	-0,90	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Kc1-b1 g4xf3 Be4xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Nf6-d5 g2-g3 Kh8-g8 c2-c3 b6-b5 h4-h5 Be7-g5 Qd2-e2 Qd8-d6 Rh1-e1 b5-b4 Qe2-e5 Qd6xe5 d4xe5 b4xc3 Bf3xd5 e6xd5 f2-f4 Bg5-e7 Rd1xd5 c3xb2
  28+	00:26	  14.042.728	550.220	-0,75	Be4xa8
  28	00:34	  18.117.630	547.294	-0,72	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 h2-h4 g4xf3 Be4xf3 Kh8-g8 Kc1-b1 Nd7-f6 g2-g3 Nf6-d5 c2-c3 b6-b5 Qd2-e2 Qd8-d6 h4-h5 Rf8-b8 h5-h6 b5-b4 c3-c4 Nd5-c3+ b2xc3 b4xc3+ Kb1-a1 Rb8-b2 c4-c5 Ba6xe2 c5xd6
  29+	00:53	  28.769.943	548.709	-0,57	g2-g4
  29+	00:55	  29.989.947	549.890	-0,42	g2-g4
  29+	01:03	  34.531.155	553.375	-0,15	g2-g4
  29+	02:42	  99.504.184	618.603	+0,30	g2-g4
  29	04:46	 176.976.444	621.144	+0,56	g2-g4 Ra8-b8 h2-h4 g7-g6 h4xg5+ Kh8-g7 Qd2-f4 Be7-d6 Nf3-e5 Bd6-e7 Ne5xf7 Be7-d6 Qf4-f3 Qd8-e7 Qf3-h3 Rf8-g8 Be4xg6 Bd6-f4+ Kc1-b1 Kg7-f8 Qh3-h6+ Rg8-g7 Rh1-e1 Bc8-b7 d4-d5 e6-e5 c2-c3 Nd7-c5 f2-f3 Bf4-g3 Re1-e2 Bg3-f4 c3-c4 Rb8-e8 Rd1-e1 Nc5-d3 Bg6xd3
  30+	05:02	 186.112.795	617.410	+0,71	g2-g4 Bc8-a6
  30+	05:20	 197.237.234	617.077	+0,86	g2-g4
  30+	06:09	 225.410.161	612.050	+1,13	g2-g4
  30	07:03	 264.397.630	625.728	+1,13	g2-g4 Ra8-b8 h2-h4 g7-g6 h4xg5+ Kh8-g7 Qd2-f4 Be7-d6 Nf3-e5 Bd6-e7 Ne5xf7 Be7-d6 Qf4-f3 Qd8-e7 Qf3-h3 Rf8-g8 Be4xg6 Bd6-f4+ Kc1-b1 Kg7-f8 Qh3-f3 Rg8xg6 Rh1-h8+ Rg6-g8 Rh8xg8+ Kf8xf7 Rg8xc8 Rb8xc8 Qf3xf4+ Kf7-g7 Qf4-e3 Nd7-f8 Qe3-e5+ Kg7-f7 Rd1-h1 c7-c5 f2-f4 c5xd4 Qe5xd4 Rc8-d8 Qd4-e4 Rd8-d2 Rh1-e1
Best move: g2-g4, Value: +1,13, Depth: 31, Time: 00:04,454, 264.884.450 Nodes, 625 kN/sec.
Analysis by MBooot62

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FEN: r1bq1r1k/p1pnbpp1/1p2p3/6p1/3PB3/5N2/PPPQ1PPP/2KR3R w - - 0 1 

MBooot62_64_01:
  14	00:01	     146.300	585.200	-0,96	Be4xa8 g5-g4 Qd2-e2 g4xf3 Ba8xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Qd8-d7 g2-g4 Qd7-a4 g4-g5 Nf6-d7 a2-a3 Bc8-a6 Qe2-e4 c7-c5
  15	00:01	     172.687	581.437	-0,95	Be4xa8 g5-g4 Qd2-e2 g4xf3 Ba8xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Qd8-d7 Kc1-b1 Qd7-a4 b2-b3 Qa4-a3 c2-c4 a7-a5 g2-g4 a5-a4 g4-g5 a4xb3
  16+	00:01	     204.978	570.969	-0,80	Be4xa8
  16	00:01	     241.150	571.445	-0,79	Be4xa8 g5-g4 Qd2-e2 g4xf3 Ba8xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Bc8-d7 Kc1-b1 Be7-d6 g2-g3 a7-a5 Rh1-e1 Kh8-g8 c2-c3 Bd6-e7 Qe2-d3
  17	00:01	     304.020	590.330	-0,75	Be4xa8 g5-g4 Qd2-e2 g4xf3 Ba8xf3 Nd7-f6 Kc1-b1 Qd8-d7 h2-h4 Qd7-a4 b2-b3 Qa4-a3 c2-c4 a7-a5 g2-g4 a5-a4 Qe2-b2 Qa3xb2+ Kb1xb2 a4-a3+ Kb2-b1
  18	00:02	     379.295	578.193	-0,75	Be4xa8 g5-g4 Qd2-e2 g4xf3 Ba8xf3 Nd7-f6 Kc1-b1 Qd8-d7 h2-h4 Qd7-a4 b2-b3 Qa4-a3 c2-c4 a7-a5 g2-g4 a5-a4 Qe2-b2 Qa3xb2+ Kb1xb2 a4-a3+ Kb2-b1
  19	00:02	     524.760	579.845	-0,84	Be4xa8 g5-g4 Qd2-e2 g4xf3 Ba8xf3 Nd7-f6 Kc1-b1 Qd8-d6 g2-g3 Bc8-d7 Rh1-e1 Kh8-g8 h2-h4 b6-b5 c2-c3 Rf8-d8 d4-d5 Qd6-c5 d5xe6 Qc5-f5+ Kb1-a1
  20+	00:04	   1.617.914	560.607	-0,84	Be4xa8 g5-g4
  20	00:04	   1.870.524	555.051	-0,94	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Rh1-g1 g4xf3 g2xf3 Be7-f6 Kc1-b1 c7-c5 Rg1-g3 Rf8-e8 d4xc5 Nd7xc5 Qd2xd8 Re8xd8 Rd1xd8+ Bf6xd8 b2-b4 Nc5xe4 f3xe4 Bd8-e7
  21+	00:05	   2.399.205	555.114	-0,79	Be4xa8 g5-g4 Qd2-d3
  21	00:06	   2.994.840	550.016	-0,82	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Rh1-g1 g4xf3 g2xf3 f7-f5 Be4-d3 Ba6-b7 Bd3-c4 Bb7xf3 Rd1-e1 c7-c5 Bc4xe6 Bf3-g4 d4-d5 Nd7-f6 Kc1-b1 Be7-d6 f2-f3 Bg4xf3
  22+	00:08	   3.922.634	550.159	-0,67	Be4xa8
  22	00:09	   4.235.156	551.739	-0,65	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Rh1-g1 g4xf3 g2xf3 f7-f5 Be4-d3 Ba6-b7 Bd3-c4 Bb7xf3 Rd1-e1 Bf3-d5 Qd2-e2 Nd7-f6 Bc4xd5 Qd8xd5 Qe2xe6 Qd5xe6 Re1xe6 Be7-d6 h2-h4 Bd6-f4+ Kc1-b1 Rf8-d8
  23	00:10	   4.829.711	551.840	-0,70	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Rh1-g1 g4xf3 g2xf3 f7-f5 Be4-d3 Ba6-b7 Bd3-c4 Bb7xf3 Rd1-e1 Bf3-d5 Bc4xd5 e6xd5 Re1-e6 Rf8-f7 Kc1-b1 Kh8-g8 Qd2-e3 Nd7-f8 Re6-e5 g7-g6 f2-f4 Be7-f6
  24	00:15	   7.710.384	557.189	-1,10	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Rh1-g1 Nd7-f6 Be4-d3 Ba6xd3 Qd2xd3 g4xf3 Qd3xf3 Kh8-g8 Kc1-b1 Qd8-d5 Qf3xd5 Nf6xd5 g2-g3 b6-b5 Rg1-e1 Rf8-d8 f2-f4 a7-a5 c2-c3 c7-c5 d4xc5
  25+	00:16	   8.640.497	559.472	-0,95	Be4xa8 g5-g4
  25	00:18	   9.379.811	559.821	-0,91	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Kc1-b1 g4xf3 Be4xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Nf6-d5 g2-g3 Kh8-g8 Rh1-e1 Qd8-d6 h4-h5 Qd6-d8 Bf3-e2 Ba6-b7 Be2-c4 Nd5-f6 h5-h6 Nf6-e4 Qd2-f4 Be7-d6 Qf4-f3
  26+	00:22	  11.603.139	557.146	-0,76	Be4xa8
  26	00:23	  12.337.788	557.337	-0,88	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Kc1-b1 g4xf3 Be4xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Nf6-d5 g2-g3 Kh8-g8 c2-c3 b6-b5 Qd2-d3 c7-c6 h4-h5 Be7-g5 Bf3-g4 Bg5-h6 f2-f4 Qd8-a5 Bg4-f3 Rf8-d8 Bf3xd5 Rd8xd5 Qd3-d2 c6-c5
  27	00:26	  13.847.545	558.278	-0,82	Be4xa8 Bc8-a6 Ba8-e4 g5-g4 Kc1-b1 g4xf3 Be4xf3 Nd7-f6 h2-h4 Nf6-d5 g2-g3 Kh8-g8 c2-c3 Rf8-e8 Qd2-c2 Ba6-b7 Rh1-e1 b6-b5 Qc2-d3 c7-c6 h4-h5 Be7-f6 a2-a3 a7-a5 h5-h6 g7xh6 Re1-h1 Bf6-g5
  27+	00:30	  16.116.489	560.554	-0,73	g2-g4
  27+	00:31	  16.791.334	562.053	-0,58	g2-g4
  27+	00:33	  18.039.901	563.535	-0,31	g2-g4
  27+	01:06	  39.638.298	611.966	+0,14	g2-g4
  27	01:18	  46.945.852	612.646	+0,43	g2-g4 Bc8-a6 h2-h4 g5xh4 g4-g5 Kh8-g8 Rh1xh4 f7-f5 Be4-c6 Nd7-e5 d4xe5 Qd8xd2+ Rd1xd2 Ra8-d8 Rh4-a4 Ba6-f1 Ra4xa7 Bf1-g2 Rd2xd8 Rf8xd8 g5-g6 Be7-c5 Ra7xc7 Bc5xf2 c2-c3 Bf2-e3+ Kc1-c2 Bg2xf3 Bc6xf3 b6-b5 Rc7-e7 Rd8-d2+ Kc2-c1
  28+	01:33	  55.546.937	606.692	+0,58	g2-g4 Ra8-b8
  28+	01:36	  57.607.912	603.989	+0,73	g2-g4
  28+	02:13	  83.351.010	628.955	+1,00	g2-g4
  28	02:51	 110.106.769	645.810	+0,90	g2-g4 Ra8-b8 h2-h4 g7-g6 h4xg5+ Kh8-g7 Qd2-f4 a7-a5 Kc1-b1 Be7-d6 Nf3-e5 Bd6xe5 d4xe5 Rf8-h8 Rh1-h6 b6-b5 Be4-c6 Rh8xh6 g5xh6+ Kg7-g8 Bc6xd7 Bc8xd7 Qf4-d4 Kg8-h7 Qd4xd7 Qd8xd7 Rd1xd7 Kh7xh6 f2-f4 Kh6-g7 Rd7xc7
  29+	03:12	 124.086.427	649.480	+1,05	g2-g4 Bc8-a6
  29+	03:22	 129.780.827	645.101	+1,20	g2-g4
  29+	03:53	 151.229.442	651.617	+1,26	g2-g4
  29	04:53	 189.654.999	648.630	+1,13	g2-g4 f7-f5 Be4xa8 f5xg4 Nf3-e5 Nd7xe5 d4xe5 Qd8xd2+ Rd1xd2 Rf8-f4 Kc1-b1 Kh8-g8 Rh1-e1 a7-a5 Ba8-c6 Kg8-f7 c2-c3 Kf7-g6 Bc6-b5 Kg6-f7 Re1-e2 Rf4-f3 Re2-e4 Rf3-f4 Re4xf4+ g5xf4 Rd2-d4 Be7-g5 Bb5-c6 g7-g6 Kb1-c2
  30+	05:04	 195.635.456	646.124	+1,28	g2-g4
  30	05:17	 203.309.388	642.503	+1,30	g2-g4 f7-f5 Be4xa8 f5xg4 Nf3-e5 Nd7xe5 d4xe5 Qd8xd2+ Rd1xd2 Kh8-g8 Ba8-c6 a7-a5 Rh1-d1 Rf8-f5 a2-a3 Kg8-f7 Rd1-e1 Be7-c5 Rd2-d8 Bc8-a6 Rd8-d7+ Kf7-g8 Re1-e4 Bc5xf2 Rd7xc7 g4-g3 h2xg3 Bf2xg3 Bc6-d7 Kg8-h8 Bd7xe6 Bg3-f4+ Kc1-b1 Rf5xe5 Re4xe5
  31	05:43	 217.383.221	636.432	+1,06	g2-g4 f7-f5 Be4xa8 f5xg4 Nf3-e5 Nd7xe5 d4xe5 Qd8xd2+ Rd1xd2 Bc8-a6 Ba8-c6 Be7-c5 Rh1-d1 Rf8-f4 Rd2-d7 Bc5xf2 Rd7xc7 Bf2-e3+ Kc1-b1 Ba6-e2 Rd1-d8+ Kh8-h7 a2-a4 Be3-d4 Rc7xa7 Bd4xe5 Kb1-a2 Rf4-c4 Rd8-d2 Be2-f3 Bc6-b5 Rc4-c5 b2-b4 Bf3-d5+ Ka2-b1 Rc5-c8 Rd2-e2
  32+	05:54	 223.896.691	633.961	+1,21	g2-g4
  32+	06:16	 235.928.355	629.803	+1,36	g2-g4
  32	06:49	 255.054.237	624.289	+1,35	g2-g4 f7-f5 Be4xa8 f5xg4 Nf3-e5 Nd7xe5 d4xe5 Qd8xd2+ Rd1xd2 Kh8-g8 Ba8-c6 a7-a5 Rh1-d1 Rf8-f4 b2-b3 Kg8-f7 c2-c4 Kf7-g6 Kc1-b1 Kg6-f5 Rd2-e2 Kf5-g6 Bc6-e4+ Kg6-h5 Kb1-b2 Rf4-f8 Rd1-d2 Be7-c5 a2-a3 Kh5-h6 Be4-c6 Kh6-g6 Bc6-d7 Bc8xd7 Rd2xd7
  33+	07:50	 283.992.013	604.901	+1,35	g2-g4 Bc8-a6
  33	08:22	 301.694.698	601.999	+1,30	g2-g4 f7-f5 Be4xa8 f5xg4 Nf3-e5 Nd7xe5 d4xe5 Qd8xd2+ Rd1xd2 Kh8-g8 Ba8-c6 a7-a5 Rh1-d1 Rf8-f4 b2-b3 Kg8-f7 c2-c4 Kf7-g6 Kc1-b1 Kg6-f5 Rd2-e2 Kf5-g6 Bc6-e4+ Kg6-h5 Rd1-d3 Kh5-h6 Rd3-d2 Rf4-f8 Rd2-d1 Rf8-f4 Kb1-b2 g7-g6 a2-a3 Kh6-g7 Be4-c6 Be7-c5
  34	08:45	 314.710.203	600.457	+1,30	g2-g4 f7-f5 Be4xa8 f5xg4 Nf3-e5 Nd7xe5 d4xe5 Qd8xd2+ Rd1xd2 Kh8-g8 Ba8-c6 a7-a5 Rh1-d1 Rf8-f4 b2-b3 Kg8-f7 c2-c4 Kf7-g6 Kc1-b1 Kg6-f5 Rd2-e2 Kf5-g6 Bc6-e4+ Kg6-h5 Rd1-d3 Kh5-h6 Be4-c6 Kh6-g6 Rd3-d1 Kg6-f7 Kb1-b2 Kf7-g6 a2-a3 Kg6-h7 Re2-d2 Kh7-g6
Best move: g2-g4, Value: +1,30, Depth: 35, Time: 00:04,789, 317.133.211 Nodes, 600 kN/sec.
Note the main line is different. MBooot is a slightly different engine than Booot. If you really want to have Booot62 to analyze your positions you have to wait for the fix by Alex.

Maarten
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: For FEOBOS all engines are building a strong team!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Maarten,

all is fine!

For opening book analyses not important to use Booot 6.2 or 6.3. Most important is the style the engine have to find maybe bad move the others not seen. And Booot have a great style for the beginning of the game ... one of my defense players because very sure ... BOATENG if you compare with the German football team or Petrosjan if you compare with chess players.

Example:
If a new version 50 Elo stronger as the predecessor ...

Average after FCP Rating List stats from all updates I tested in three years ...

5 Elo in openings.
10-15 Elo in middlegame
25-30 Elo in transposition into endgame
5 Elo in endgame

All this isn't important here!

Again ...
More important are the different styles engines have. I think I found here with the 10 main engines I am using for the FEOBOS analyses a good combination. With other words ... 10 engines build a team and each of the team players are important for the strong book I try to build with FEOBOS.

Klaus with the Excel file is the Goalkeeper ...
Three defense players.
A big midfield with 5 players ...
Two engines in forward line

I am more or less with my settings the trainer.

Means a team ...
And with your compiled version the style of the engine Booot isn't changed. You are more the team doctor and made Booot again physically fit. Not more not less.

:-)

Frank live ...
So ... all is good for myself!
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