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Man or human being versus asmFishW machine 2017-04-03

Post by Father » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:28 am

2017-04-03

asmFishW_2017-04-03_popcnt (8 threads): 25.2 plies; 10.795kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 960 @ 3.20GHz 3706MHz, (4 cores, 8 threads)

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[Event "Partida evaluada, 5 min"]
[Site "Sala de máquinas"]
[Date "2017.04.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "panosdj"]
[Black "Grand-Father"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C50"]
[WhiteElo "2465"]
[BlackElo "1815"]
[PlyCount "298"]
[EventDate "2017.04.06"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. e4 {B 0} e5 {1} 2. Nf3 {B 0} Nc6 {3} 3. Bc4 {B 0} Be7 {1} 4. d4 {B 0} d6 {0}
5. d5 {B 0} Nb8 {1} 6. Bd3 {B 0} Nf6 {2} 7. h3 {B 0} O-O {1} 8. c4 {0.56/26 16}
c5 {1 (c6)} 9. Nc3 {0.71/26 11} Ne8 {1 (Nbd7)} 10. a3 {1.03/24 5} a5 {2 (Nd7)}
11. O-O {0.95/26 6} g6 {1 (Nd7)} 12. Bh6 {1.29/24 4} Ng7 {1} 13. g4 {1.37/25 0}
f6 {1 (Nd7)} 14. Kh1 {1.45/22 5} Rf7 {1 (Qe8)} 15. Rg1 {1.60/24 5} Nd7 {1 (Ne8)
} 16. h4 {1.83/27 4} Nf8 {1 (Nb6)} 17. h5 {1.59/30 11} g5 {1} 18. Nh2 {1.54/30
6} Bd7 {1 (Nd7)} 19. Nf1 {1.65/23 4} Qe8 {1 (Bc8)} 20. f3 {1.98/20 3} Bd8 {1}
21. Kg2 {1.98/31 37} Qe7 {10 (Be7)} 22. Rh1 {2.23/24 4} Bc7 {1 (a4)} 23. b3 {
2.18/24 16} Qd8 {2} 24. Ne3 {1.87/23 29} Be8 {2 (Bc8)} 25. Nb5 {1.97/24 19}
Bxb5 {2 (Bd7)} 26. cxb5 {1.71/24 6} b6 {3 (a4)} 27. Rc1 {2.12/21 3} Qd7 {2} 28.
Bc4 {2.10/25 5} Kh8 {3 (Qc8)} 29. a4 {2.03/21 7} Bd8 {1 (Qe8)} 30. Rc2 {1.90/
23 3} Ra7 {1} 31. Qd2 {2.02/18 4} Ra8 {1 (Qc7)} 32. Kf2 {1.78/21 4} Ra7 {1
(Qc7)} 33. Ke1 {1.93/17 1} Ra8 {1 (Qc7)} 34. Kd1 {1.93/20 1} Ra7 {2 (Qc7)} 35.
Kc1 {1.93/20 2} Ra8 {1 (Qc7)} 36. Bf1 {2.09/16 2} Ra7 {2} 37. Kb2 {1.71/23 11}
Ra8 {0} 38. Bc4 {1.97/19 5} Ra7 {2 (Qc7)} 39. Kb1 {1.77/22 6} Ra8 {1} 40. Bd3 {
1.80/22 5} Ra7 {2 (Qc7)} 41. Rcc1 {1.84/20 3} Ra8 {1 (Qc7)} 42. Bf1 {1.85/18 2}
Ra7 {0} 43. Rh2 {1.82/19 2} Ra8 {1} 44. Bc4 {1.99/19 1} Ra7 {1 (Qc7)} 45. Bxg7+
{1.87/20 3} Kxg7 {4} 46. Nf5+ {1.71/25 1} Kh8 {1} 47. Nh6 {1.64/26 0} Ra8 {4
(Rg7)} 48. Nxf7+ {2.12/18 1} Qxf7 {1} 49. Kc2 {2.11/46 0} h6 {1 (Bc7)} 50. Rhh1
{2.11/44 1} Ra7 {1 (Kg8)} 51. Kd1 {2.11/43 1} Kg7 {1 (Bc7)} 52. Rc2 {2.26/43 4}
Qe7 {1} 53. Kc1 {2.37/37 0} Kh8 {1 (Nd7)} 54. Rh2 {2.37/40 1} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 55.
Re2 {2.37/42 0} Kh8 {1 (Bc7)} 56. Kb1 {2.37/45 1} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 57. Bd3 {2.37/
42 1} Kh8 {0 (Nd7)} 58. Qe3 {2.37/40 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 59. Qd2 {2.37/43 0} Kh8 {
1 (Nd7)} 60. Rc4 {2.37/39 0} Kg7 {0 (Nd7)} 61. Rh2 {2.37/41 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)}
62. Qg2 {2.37/43 0} Kg7 {0} 63. Qb2 {2.37/41 0} Kh8 {1 (Nd7)} 64. Qe2 {2.37/38
0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 65. Rc2 {2.37/43 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 66. Ka2 {2.37/39 0} Kg7 {0
(Kg8)} 67. Bc4 {2.37/44 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 68. Rd2 {2.37/37 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 69.
Rd1 {2.37/39 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 70. Bd3 {2.37/38 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 71. Bc4 {2.37/
43 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 72. Qg2 {2.37/44 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 73. Bd3 {2.37/41 0} Kh8 {
0 (Kg8)} 74. Qb2 {2.37/39 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 75. Qd2 {2.37/38 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)}
76. Kb1 {2.37/38 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 77. Qg2 {2.37/41 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 78. Qd2 {
2.22/30 1} Kg7 {0} 79. Rc1 {2.22/33 1} Kh8 {0 (Qd7)} 80. Kc2 {2.11/18 0} Kg7 {
0 (Qd7)} 81. Bf1 {2.18/22 0} Kh8 {1 (Qd7)} 82. Bd3 {2.11/19 0} Kg7 {0 (Qd7)}
83. Bf1 {2.04/29 0} Kh8 {0 (Qd7)} 84. Rd1 {2.11/20 0} Kg7 {0 (Qf7)} 85. Bd3 {
2.02/21 0} Kg8 {1 (Qd7)} 86. Bc4 {2.22/23 0} Kg7 {0} 87. Kd3 {1.95/26 0} Kh8 {
1 (Nd7)} 88. Qb2 {1.94/21 0} Kg7 {0 (Qe8)} 89. Qe2 {1.94/17 0} Kh8 {1 (Qf7)}
90. Kc2 {1.94/13 0} Kg7 {1 (Nd7)} 91. Kb1 {2.00/13 0} Kh8 {1 (Rc7)} 92. Ka2 {
1.94/12 0} Kg7 {0} 93. Rc1 {1.90/13 0} Kh8 {1 (Qb7)} 94. Qb2 {1.92/11 0} Kg7 {1
} 95. Rd1 {0.78/13 0} Kh8 {1 (Rc7)} 96. Kb1 {0.91/14 0} Kg7 {2 (Rc7)} 97. Qd2 {
0.98/15 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 98. Re1 {0.31/17 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 99. b4 {0.31/24 0}
axb4 {1 (cxb4)} 100. Qc2 {0.66/14 0} Ra5 {0 (Qc7)} 101. Qb3 {0.74/19 0} Kh8 {
1 (Nd7)} 102. Ra2 {0.74/18 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 103. Kc1 {0.74/25 0} Kh8 {0 (Nd7)}
104. Kd1 {0.74/25 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 105. Ke2 {0.74/27 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 106. Kf2
{0.74/27 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 107. Be2 {0.74/23 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 108. Rc2 {0.74/22
0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 109. Bc4 {0.74/23 0} Kh8 {1 (Qe8)} 110. Rh1 {0.74/25 0} Kg7 {
0 (Kg8)} 111. Rhc1 {0.74/24 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 112. Kg3 {0.74/20 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)}
113. Ra2 {0.74/25 0} Kh8 {1 (Qe8)} 114. Qe3 {0.74/24 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 115. Bb3
{0.74/24 0} Kh8 {1 (Qe8)} 116. Rh2 {0.74/23 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 117. Ra1 {0.74/25
0} Kh8 {0 (Nd7)} 118. Bc4 {0.74/19 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 119. Rc2 {0.74/26 0} Kh8 {
0 (Nd7)} 120. Kg2 {0.74/24 0} Kg7 {0} 121. Rcc1 {0.74/33 0} Kh8 {0 (Qe8)} 122.
Qe2 {0.74/25 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 123. Qc2 {0.74/24 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 124. Rab1 {0.
74/25 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 125. Be2 {0.74/25 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 126. Kf2 {0.74/25 0}
Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 127. Rg1 {0.74/26 0} Kh8 {1 (Nd7)} 128. Bc4 {0.74/24 0} Kg7 {0
(Kg8)} 129. Rg3 {0.74/27 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 130. Rh3 {0.67/18 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)}
131. Rg3 {0.67/18 0} Kh8 {1} 132. Rgg1 {0.64/36 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 133. Ra1 {0.
63/15 0} Kh8 {1} 134. Rgc1 {0.63/15 0} Kg7 {1} 135. Rh1 {0.49/29 0} Kh8 {1
(Qd7)} 136. Rac1 {0.64/14 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 137. Ke3 {0.35/18 0} Kh8 {1 (Qb7)}
138. Bb3 {0.42/17 0} Kg7 {1} 139. Ke2 {0.35/22 0} Kh8 {1} 140. Kf2 {0.42/14 0}
Kg7 {1} 141. Ke2 {0.30/20 0} Kh8 {1} 142. Ra1 {0.33/15 0} Kg7 {1 (Qb7)} 143.
Kf2 {0.00/20 0} Kh8 {1 (Qb7)} 144. Kg2 {0.00/23 0} Kg7 {1 (Qb7)} 145. Rag1 {0.
00/24 0} Kh8 {1 (Qb7)} 146. Qe2 {0.00/30 0} Kg7 {1 (Qb7)} 147. Bc4 {0.00/30 0}
Kh8 {1 (Qb7)} 148. Rd1 {0.00/30 0} Kg7 {1 (Nd7)} 149. Rhf1 {0.00/32 0} Kh8 {1
(Qb7) (Lag: Av=0.60s, max=1.1s)} 1/2-1/2

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I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Re: Man or human being versus asmFishW machine 2017-04-03

Post by Father » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:29 am

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2017-04-03

asmFishW_2017-04-03_popcnt (8 threads): 25.2 plies; 10.795kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 960 @ 3.20GHz 3706MHz, (4 cores, 8 threads)

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[Event "Partida evaluada, 5 min"]
[Site "Sala de máquinas"]
[Date "2017.04.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "panosdj"]
[Black "Grand-Father"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C50"]
[WhiteElo "2465"]
[BlackElo "1815"]
[PlyCount "298"]
[EventDate "2017.04.06"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. e4 {B 0} e5 {1} 2. Nf3 {B 0} Nc6 {3} 3. Bc4 {B 0} Be7 {1} 4. d4 {B 0} d6 {0}
5. d5 {B 0} Nb8 {1} 6. Bd3 {B 0} Nf6 {2} 7. h3 {B 0} O-O {1} 8. c4 {0.56/26 16}
c5 {1 (c6)} 9. Nc3 {0.71/26 11} Ne8 {1 (Nbd7)} 10. a3 {1.03/24 5} a5 {2 (Nd7)}
11. O-O {0.95/26 6} g6 {1 (Nd7)} 12. Bh6 {1.29/24 4} Ng7 {1} 13. g4 {1.37/25 0}
f6 {1 (Nd7)} 14. Kh1 {1.45/22 5} Rf7 {1 (Qe8)} 15. Rg1 {1.60/24 5} Nd7 {1 (Ne8)
} 16. h4 {1.83/27 4} Nf8 {1 (Nb6)} 17. h5 {1.59/30 11} g5 {1} 18. Nh2 {1.54/30
6} Bd7 {1 (Nd7)} 19. Nf1 {1.65/23 4} Qe8 {1 (Bc8)} 20. f3 {1.98/20 3} Bd8 {1}
21. Kg2 {1.98/31 37} Qe7 {10 (Be7)} 22. Rh1 {2.23/24 4} Bc7 {1 (a4)} 23. b3 {
2.18/24 16} Qd8 {2} 24. Ne3 {1.87/23 29} Be8 {2 (Bc8)} 25. Nb5 {1.97/24 19}
Bxb5 {2 (Bd7)} 26. cxb5 {1.71/24 6} b6 {3 (a4)} 27. Rc1 {2.12/21 3} Qd7 {2} 28.
Bc4 {2.10/25 5} Kh8 {3 (Qc8)} 29. a4 {2.03/21 7} Bd8 {1 (Qe8)} 30. Rc2 {1.90/
23 3} Ra7 {1} 31. Qd2 {2.02/18 4} Ra8 {1 (Qc7)} 32. Kf2 {1.78/21 4} Ra7 {1
(Qc7)} 33. Ke1 {1.93/17 1} Ra8 {1 (Qc7)} 34. Kd1 {1.93/20 1} Ra7 {2 (Qc7)} 35.
Kc1 {1.93/20 2} Ra8 {1 (Qc7)} 36. Bf1 {2.09/16 2} Ra7 {2} 37. Kb2 {1.71/23 11}
Ra8 {0} 38. Bc4 {1.97/19 5} Ra7 {2 (Qc7)} 39. Kb1 {1.77/22 6} Ra8 {1} 40. Bd3 {
1.80/22 5} Ra7 {2 (Qc7)} 41. Rcc1 {1.84/20 3} Ra8 {1 (Qc7)} 42. Bf1 {1.85/18 2}
Ra7 {0} 43. Rh2 {1.82/19 2} Ra8 {1} 44. Bc4 {1.99/19 1} Ra7 {1 (Qc7)} 45. Bxg7+
{1.87/20 3} Kxg7 {4} 46. Nf5+ {1.71/25 1} Kh8 {1} 47. Nh6 {1.64/26 0} Ra8 {4
(Rg7)} 48. Nxf7+ {2.12/18 1} Qxf7 {1} 49. Kc2 {2.11/46 0} h6 {1 (Bc7)} 50. Rhh1
{2.11/44 1} Ra7 {1 (Kg8)} 51. Kd1 {2.11/43 1} Kg7 {1 (Bc7)} 52. Rc2 {2.26/43 4}
Qe7 {1} 53. Kc1 {2.37/37 0} Kh8 {1 (Nd7)} 54. Rh2 {2.37/40 1} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 55.
Re2 {2.37/42 0} Kh8 {1 (Bc7)} 56. Kb1 {2.37/45 1} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 57. Bd3 {2.37/
42 1} Kh8 {0 (Nd7)} 58. Qe3 {2.37/40 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 59. Qd2 {2.37/43 0} Kh8 {
1 (Nd7)} 60. Rc4 {2.37/39 0} Kg7 {0 (Nd7)} 61. Rh2 {2.37/41 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)}
62. Qg2 {2.37/43 0} Kg7 {0} 63. Qb2 {2.37/41 0} Kh8 {1 (Nd7)} 64. Qe2 {2.37/38
0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 65. Rc2 {2.37/43 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 66. Ka2 {2.37/39 0} Kg7 {0
(Kg8)} 67. Bc4 {2.37/44 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 68. Rd2 {2.37/37 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 69.
Rd1 {2.37/39 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 70. Bd3 {2.37/38 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 71. Bc4 {2.37/
43 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 72. Qg2 {2.37/44 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 73. Bd3 {2.37/41 0} Kh8 {
0 (Kg8)} 74. Qb2 {2.37/39 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 75. Qd2 {2.37/38 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)}
76. Kb1 {2.37/38 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 77. Qg2 {2.37/41 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 78. Qd2 {
2.22/30 1} Kg7 {0} 79. Rc1 {2.22/33 1} Kh8 {0 (Qd7)} 80. Kc2 {2.11/18 0} Kg7 {
0 (Qd7)} 81. Bf1 {2.18/22 0} Kh8 {1 (Qd7)} 82. Bd3 {2.11/19 0} Kg7 {0 (Qd7)}
83. Bf1 {2.04/29 0} Kh8 {0 (Qd7)} 84. Rd1 {2.11/20 0} Kg7 {0 (Qf7)} 85. Bd3 {
2.02/21 0} Kg8 {1 (Qd7)} 86. Bc4 {2.22/23 0} Kg7 {0} 87. Kd3 {1.95/26 0} Kh8 {
1 (Nd7)} 88. Qb2 {1.94/21 0} Kg7 {0 (Qe8)} 89. Qe2 {1.94/17 0} Kh8 {1 (Qf7)}
90. Kc2 {1.94/13 0} Kg7 {1 (Nd7)} 91. Kb1 {2.00/13 0} Kh8 {1 (Rc7)} 92. Ka2 {
1.94/12 0} Kg7 {0} 93. Rc1 {1.90/13 0} Kh8 {1 (Qb7)} 94. Qb2 {1.92/11 0} Kg7 {1
} 95. Rd1 {0.78/13 0} Kh8 {1 (Rc7)} 96. Kb1 {0.91/14 0} Kg7 {2 (Rc7)} 97. Qd2 {
0.98/15 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 98. Re1 {0.31/17 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 99. b4 {0.31/24 0}
axb4 {1 (cxb4)} 100. Qc2 {0.66/14 0} Ra5 {0 (Qc7)} 101. Qb3 {0.74/19 0} Kh8 {
1 (Nd7)} 102. Ra2 {0.74/18 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 103. Kc1 {0.74/25 0} Kh8 {0 (Nd7)}
104. Kd1 {0.74/25 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 105. Ke2 {0.74/27 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 106. Kf2
{0.74/27 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 107. Be2 {0.74/23 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 108. Rc2 {0.74/22
0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 109. Bc4 {0.74/23 0} Kh8 {1 (Qe8)} 110. Rh1 {0.74/25 0} Kg7 {
0 (Kg8)} 111. Rhc1 {0.74/24 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 112. Kg3 {0.74/20 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)}
113. Ra2 {0.74/25 0} Kh8 {1 (Qe8)} 114. Qe3 {0.74/24 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 115. Bb3
{0.74/24 0} Kh8 {1 (Qe8)} 116. Rh2 {0.74/23 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 117. Ra1 {0.74/25
0} Kh8 {0 (Nd7)} 118. Bc4 {0.74/19 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 119. Rc2 {0.74/26 0} Kh8 {
0 (Nd7)} 120. Kg2 {0.74/24 0} Kg7 {0} 121. Rcc1 {0.74/33 0} Kh8 {0 (Qe8)} 122.
Qe2 {0.74/25 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 123. Qc2 {0.74/24 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 124. Rab1 {0.
74/25 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 125. Be2 {0.74/25 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 126. Kf2 {0.74/25 0}
Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 127. Rg1 {0.74/26 0} Kh8 {1 (Nd7)} 128. Bc4 {0.74/24 0} Kg7 {0
(Kg8)} 129. Rg3 {0.74/27 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 130. Rh3 {0.67/18 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)}
131. Rg3 {0.67/18 0} Kh8 {1} 132. Rgg1 {0.64/36 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 133. Ra1 {0.
63/15 0} Kh8 {1} 134. Rgc1 {0.63/15 0} Kg7 {1} 135. Rh1 {0.49/29 0} Kh8 {1
(Qd7)} 136. Rac1 {0.64/14 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 137. Ke3 {0.35/18 0} Kh8 {1 (Qb7)}
138. Bb3 {0.42/17 0} Kg7 {1} 139. Ke2 {0.35/22 0} Kh8 {1} 140. Kf2 {0.42/14 0}
Kg7 {1} 141. Ke2 {0.30/20 0} Kh8 {1} 142. Ra1 {0.33/15 0} Kg7 {1 (Qb7)} 143.
Kf2 {0.00/20 0} Kh8 {1 (Qb7)} 144. Kg2 {0.00/23 0} Kg7 {1 (Qb7)} 145. Rag1 {0.
00/24 0} Kh8 {1 (Qb7)} 146. Qe2 {0.00/30 0} Kg7 {1 (Qb7)} 147. Bc4 {0.00/30 0}
Kh8 {1 (Qb7)} 148. Rd1 {0.00/30 0} Kg7 {1 (Nd7)} 149. Rhf1 {0.00/32 0} Kh8 {1
(Qb7) (Lag: Av=0.60s, max=1.1s)} 1/2-1/2

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I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Re: Man or human being versus asmFishW machine 2017-04-03

Post by Dann Corbit » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:49 am

Father built a wall.
Fish can't make it fall.
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.

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Re: Man or human being versus asmFishW machine 2017-04-03

Post by lantonov » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:36 am

A perfect black wall. If this isn't a fortress, nothing is.

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Re: Man or human being versus asmFishW machine 2017-04-03

Post by Werewolf » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:12 am

Well done. I have much more respect for this than exploiting the GUI time lag as a way of winning.

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Re: Man or human being versus asmFishW machine 2017-04-03

Post by Milos » Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:02 pm

This is totally fake. On move 25. Nb5 is 39. out 40. move choice for SF even at depths below 20, and that is also the case at depth 24 where the move has been allegedly played. Literally every other move is a better choice!!!
Even if SF played totally random move it would be stronger than that.
So there is no way SF actually played that move. Ergo this game is totally fake and fabricated.

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Re: Man or human being versus asmFishW machine 2017-04-03

Post by styx » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:39 pm

Milos wrote:This is totally fake. On move 25. Nb5 is 39. out 40. move choice for SF even at depths below 20, and that is also the case at depth 24 where the move has been allegedly played. Literally every other move is a better choice!!!
Even if SF played totally random move it would be stronger than that.
So there is no way SF actually played that move. Ergo this game is totally fake and fabricated.
Not true for my asmFish. Nb5 is in the top 3 moves up to depth 25. Sometimes even top choice.

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Re: Man or human being versus asmFishW machine 2017-04-03

Post by Father » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:02 pm

Andreas:

I agree. ¨There is no worse blind than he/she who does not want to see.¨

Best,

Pablo
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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Re: Man or human being versus asmFishW machine 2017-04-03

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:06 am

Father wrote:PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:28 am Post subject: Man or human being versus asmFishW machine 2017-04-03 Reply to topic Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post Report Post
2017-04-03

asmFishW_2017-04-03_popcnt (8 threads): 25.2 plies; 10.795kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 960 @ 3.20GHz 3706MHz, (4 cores, 8 threads)

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[Event "Partida evaluada, 5 min"]
[Site "Sala de máquinas"]
[Date "2017.04.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "panosdj"]
[Black "Grand-Father"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C50"]
[WhiteElo "2465"]
[BlackElo "1815"]
[PlyCount "298"]
[EventDate "2017.04.06"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. e4 {B 0} e5 {1} 2. Nf3 {B 0} Nc6 {3} 3. Bc4 {B 0} Be7 {1} 4. d4 {B 0} d6 {0}
5. d5 {B 0} Nb8 {1} 6. Bd3 {B 0} Nf6 {2} 7. h3 {B 0} O-O {1} 8. c4 {0.56/26 16}
c5 {1 (c6)} 9. Nc3 {0.71/26 11} Ne8 {1 (Nbd7)} 10. a3 {1.03/24 5} a5 {2 (Nd7)}
11. O-O {0.95/26 6} g6 {1 (Nd7)} 12. Bh6 {1.29/24 4} Ng7 {1} 13. g4 {1.37/25 0}
f6 {1 (Nd7)} 14. Kh1 {1.45/22 5} Rf7 {1 (Qe8)} 15. Rg1 {1.60/24 5} Nd7 {1 (Ne8)
} 16. h4 {1.83/27 4} Nf8 {1 (Nb6)} 17. h5 {1.59/30 11} g5 {1} 18. Nh2 {1.54/30
6} Bd7 {1 (Nd7)} 19. Nf1 {1.65/23 4} Qe8 {1 (Bc8)} 20. f3 {1.98/20 3} Bd8 {1}
21. Kg2 {1.98/31 37} Qe7 {10 (Be7)} 22. Rh1 {2.23/24 4} Bc7 {1 (a4)} 23. b3 {
2.18/24 16} Qd8 {2} 24. Ne3 {1.87/23 29} Be8 {2 (Bc8)} 25. Nb5 {1.97/24 19}
Bxb5 {2 (Bd7)} 26. cxb5 {1.71/24 6} b6 {3 (a4)} 27. Rc1 {2.12/21 3} Qd7 {2} 28.
Bc4 {2.10/25 5} Kh8 {3 (Qc8)} 29. a4 {2.03/21 7} Bd8 {1 (Qe8)} 30. Rc2 {1.90/
23 3} Ra7 {1} 31. Qd2 {2.02/18 4} Ra8 {1 (Qc7)} 32. Kf2 {1.78/21 4} Ra7 {1
(Qc7)} 33. Ke1 {1.93/17 1} Ra8 {1 (Qc7)} 34. Kd1 {1.93/20 1} Ra7 {2 (Qc7)} 35.
Kc1 {1.93/20 2} Ra8 {1 (Qc7)} 36. Bf1 {2.09/16 2} Ra7 {2} 37. Kb2 {1.71/23 11}
Ra8 {0} 38. Bc4 {1.97/19 5} Ra7 {2 (Qc7)} 39. Kb1 {1.77/22 6} Ra8 {1} 40. Bd3 {
1.80/22 5} Ra7 {2 (Qc7)} 41. Rcc1 {1.84/20 3} Ra8 {1 (Qc7)} 42. Bf1 {1.85/18 2}
Ra7 {0} 43. Rh2 {1.82/19 2} Ra8 {1} 44. Bc4 {1.99/19 1} Ra7 {1 (Qc7)} 45. Bxg7+
{1.87/20 3} Kxg7 {4} 46. Nf5+ {1.71/25 1} Kh8 {1} 47. Nh6 {1.64/26 0} Ra8 {4
(Rg7)} 48. Nxf7+ {2.12/18 1} Qxf7 {1} 49. Kc2 {2.11/46 0} h6 {1 (Bc7)} 50. Rhh1
{2.11/44 1} Ra7 {1 (Kg8)} 51. Kd1 {2.11/43 1} Kg7 {1 (Bc7)} 52. Rc2 {2.26/43 4}
Qe7 {1} 53. Kc1 {2.37/37 0} Kh8 {1 (Nd7)} 54. Rh2 {2.37/40 1} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 55.
Re2 {2.37/42 0} Kh8 {1 (Bc7)} 56. Kb1 {2.37/45 1} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 57. Bd3 {2.37/
42 1} Kh8 {0 (Nd7)} 58. Qe3 {2.37/40 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 59. Qd2 {2.37/43 0} Kh8 {
1 (Nd7)} 60. Rc4 {2.37/39 0} Kg7 {0 (Nd7)} 61. Rh2 {2.37/41 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)}
62. Qg2 {2.37/43 0} Kg7 {0} 63. Qb2 {2.37/41 0} Kh8 {1 (Nd7)} 64. Qe2 {2.37/38
0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 65. Rc2 {2.37/43 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 66. Ka2 {2.37/39 0} Kg7 {0
(Kg8)} 67. Bc4 {2.37/44 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 68. Rd2 {2.37/37 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 69.
Rd1 {2.37/39 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 70. Bd3 {2.37/38 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 71. Bc4 {2.37/
43 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 72. Qg2 {2.37/44 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 73. Bd3 {2.37/41 0} Kh8 {
0 (Kg8)} 74. Qb2 {2.37/39 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 75. Qd2 {2.37/38 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)}
76. Kb1 {2.37/38 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 77. Qg2 {2.37/41 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 78. Qd2 {
2.22/30 1} Kg7 {0} 79. Rc1 {2.22/33 1} Kh8 {0 (Qd7)} 80. Kc2 {2.11/18 0} Kg7 {
0 (Qd7)} 81. Bf1 {2.18/22 0} Kh8 {1 (Qd7)} 82. Bd3 {2.11/19 0} Kg7 {0 (Qd7)}
83. Bf1 {2.04/29 0} Kh8 {0 (Qd7)} 84. Rd1 {2.11/20 0} Kg7 {0 (Qf7)} 85. Bd3 {
2.02/21 0} Kg8 {1 (Qd7)} 86. Bc4 {2.22/23 0} Kg7 {0} 87. Kd3 {1.95/26 0} Kh8 {
1 (Nd7)} 88. Qb2 {1.94/21 0} Kg7 {0 (Qe8)} 89. Qe2 {1.94/17 0} Kh8 {1 (Qf7)}
90. Kc2 {1.94/13 0} Kg7 {1 (Nd7)} 91. Kb1 {2.00/13 0} Kh8 {1 (Rc7)} 92. Ka2 {
1.94/12 0} Kg7 {0} 93. Rc1 {1.90/13 0} Kh8 {1 (Qb7)} 94. Qb2 {1.92/11 0} Kg7 {1
} 95. Rd1 {0.78/13 0} Kh8 {1 (Rc7)} 96. Kb1 {0.91/14 0} Kg7 {2 (Rc7)} 97. Qd2 {
0.98/15 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 98. Re1 {0.31/17 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 99. b4 {0.31/24 0}
axb4 {1 (cxb4)} 100. Qc2 {0.66/14 0} Ra5 {0 (Qc7)} 101. Qb3 {0.74/19 0} Kh8 {
1 (Nd7)} 102. Ra2 {0.74/18 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 103. Kc1 {0.74/25 0} Kh8 {0 (Nd7)}
104. Kd1 {0.74/25 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 105. Ke2 {0.74/27 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 106. Kf2
{0.74/27 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 107. Be2 {0.74/23 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 108. Rc2 {0.74/22
0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 109. Bc4 {0.74/23 0} Kh8 {1 (Qe8)} 110. Rh1 {0.74/25 0} Kg7 {
0 (Kg8)} 111. Rhc1 {0.74/24 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 112. Kg3 {0.74/20 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)}
113. Ra2 {0.74/25 0} Kh8 {1 (Qe8)} 114. Qe3 {0.74/24 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 115. Bb3
{0.74/24 0} Kh8 {1 (Qe8)} 116. Rh2 {0.74/23 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 117. Ra1 {0.74/25
0} Kh8 {0 (Nd7)} 118. Bc4 {0.74/19 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 119. Rc2 {0.74/26 0} Kh8 {
0 (Nd7)} 120. Kg2 {0.74/24 0} Kg7 {0} 121. Rcc1 {0.74/33 0} Kh8 {0 (Qe8)} 122.
Qe2 {0.74/25 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 123. Qc2 {0.74/24 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 124. Rab1 {0.
74/25 0} Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 125. Be2 {0.74/25 0} Kh8 {0 (Kg8)} 126. Kf2 {0.74/25 0}
Kg7 {0 (Kg8)} 127. Rg1 {0.74/26 0} Kh8 {1 (Nd7)} 128. Bc4 {0.74/24 0} Kg7 {0
(Kg8)} 129. Rg3 {0.74/27 0} Kh8 {1 (Kg8)} 130. Rh3 {0.67/18 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)}
131. Rg3 {0.67/18 0} Kh8 {1} 132. Rgg1 {0.64/36 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 133. Ra1 {0.
63/15 0} Kh8 {1} 134. Rgc1 {0.63/15 0} Kg7 {1} 135. Rh1 {0.49/29 0} Kh8 {1
(Qd7)} 136. Rac1 {0.64/14 0} Kg7 {1 (Kg8)} 137. Ke3 {0.35/18 0} Kh8 {1 (Qb7)}
138. Bb3 {0.42/17 0} Kg7 {1} 139. Ke2 {0.35/22 0} Kh8 {1} 140. Kf2 {0.42/14 0}
Kg7 {1} 141. Ke2 {0.30/20 0} Kh8 {1} 142. Ra1 {0.33/15 0} Kg7 {1 (Qb7)} 143.
Kf2 {0.00/20 0} Kh8 {1 (Qb7)} 144. Kg2 {0.00/23 0} Kg7 {1 (Qb7)} 145. Rag1 {0.
00/24 0} Kh8 {1 (Qb7)} 146. Qe2 {0.00/30 0} Kg7 {1 (Qb7)} 147. Bc4 {0.00/30 0}
Kh8 {1 (Qb7)} 148. Rd1 {0.00/30 0} Kg7 {1 (Nd7)} 149. Rhf1 {0.00/32 0} Kh8 {1
(Qb7) (Lag: Av=0.60s, max=1.1s)} 1/2-1/2

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why would you post the same game all over again?

and yes, it is a copied idea - I was the first one to post here the c7-c5 idea, as well as many games running almost exactly the same line.

[d]r2q1nk1/1pb2rnp/3p1p1B/pPpPp1pP/4P1P1/PP1BNP2/6K1/R2Q3R b - - 0 26

btw., above, black can even win, if it avoids playing b6, and instead proceeds with 26...Ne8. if white does not immediately capture on f8, something an engine would never do, as Bh6 is more valuable than Nf8, and the black winning lines is simply too long for engines to see, then black wins by transferring one knigth via e8-c7-a8-b6-c8-e7-g8 (Kh8 is played first, freeing g8 square), capturing the very much trapped h6 white bishop, and challenging an f5 white knigth with the other knigth on e7.

why did not you win the game this way?

Father
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Re: Man or human being versus asmFishW machine 2017-04-03

Post by Father » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:12 pm

Hello Lyudmill,

I did.not.see capturing bishop idea. Great idea!!. Next time I am going to try it.
I would like too watch your game becouse of, I dont know about his game or any other game like mine.

Best,

Pablo
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.

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