First, this:Dann Corbit wrote:What have I said that is insulting?bob wrote:You should stop with the insulting crap. Do you realize how many clones are on your "preferred list"?Dann Corbit wrote:Sounds like someone who would like an important sounding sticker on his box.Harvey Williamson wrote:When did komodo become a European engine?Dann Corbit wrote: WCCC/WMCCC is a European championship.
There is an exception to every rule. A cameo by Komodo fits that bill.
Here are the most recent entrants:Boiled down to individual engines:Code: Select all
1 Jonny flag DEU 2,400 cores, 2,376 threads, AMD x86-64, 2.8 GHz 7.0 8 World Computer Chess Champion 2 Komodo flag USA 24 cores, 24 threads, Intel i7 6.5 8 Second Place 3 Hiarcs flag GBR 28 threads, Intel Xeon E5-2697, 2.8 GHz 5.0 8 Third Place 4 Protector flag DEU 8 cores, 15 threads, Intel i7 5690x, 4 GHz 5.0 8 5 Shredder flag DEU 16 cores, 16 threads, Intel i7 4.5 8 6 Ginkgo flag DEU 6 cores, 6 threads, Intel i5 4.0 8 7 The Baron flag NLD 16 cores, 16 threads, Intel E5-2687w, 3.1 GHz 3.0 8 8 Maverick flag USA 1 thread, Intel i7, 2.8 GHz 1.0 8 9 Fridolin flag DEU 4 cores, 7 threads, Intel i7 0.0 8 1 Junior flag ISR Dual 12 core Intel Xenon I5 2.7 GHz 7.5 10 World Computer Chess Champion 2 Jonny flag DEU 2400 core AMD 2.8 GHz 7.0 10 Second Place 3 Pandix flag HUN I7-3740, 2.7 GHz, 16 GB RAM 5.5 10 Third Place 3 Hiarcs flag GBR 16 core Intel Xenon E5 3.1 GHz 5.5 10 Third Place 5 Shredder flag DEU 16 core Intel 3.1 GHz 4.5 10 6 Merlin (hu) flag HUN I7-3740, 2.7 GHz, 16 GB RAM 0.0 10 1 Junior flag ISR 16 core i7 Sandybridge 6.0 8 World Computer Chess Champion 2 Shredder flag DEU 5.5 8 Second Place 2 Hiarcs flag GBR 12 core i7 Nehalem 5.5 8 Second Place 4 Pandix flag HUN 5.0 8 4 Jonny flag DEU 800 core cluster 5.0 8 6 The Baron flag NLD 8 core i7 Nehalem 4.5 8 7 Booot flag UKR 3.0 8 8 Rookie 3.4 flag NLD 1.5 8 9 Woodpusher 1997 flag GBR 0.0 8 1 Rybka flag USA Intel Cluster run by Lukas Cimiotti 8.0 9 Disqualified 2 Rondo flag USA 6.5 9 World Computer Chess Champion 2 Thinker flag USA 6.5 9 World Computer Chess Champion 4 Shredder flag DEU 6.0 9 Third Place 5 Jonny flag DEU Cluster 5.5 9 6 Pandix Breakthrough flag HUN loan hardware 5.0 9 7 Deep Junior flag ISR 4.0 9 8 Darmenios flag POL 2.0 9 9 Fridolin flag DEU 1.0 9 10 Hector for Chess flag HUN 0.5 9
Woodpusher
Thinker
The
Shredder
Rybka
Rookie
Rondo
Protector
Pandix
Merlin
Maverick
Komodo
Junior
Jonny
Hiarcs
Hector
Ginkgo
Fridolin
Darmenios
Booot
Considering the CCRL 40/40 measurements, these are the top 20 engines:
Texel
Strelka
Stockfish
Rybka
Protector
NirvanaChess
Naum
Komodo
Houdini
Hannibal
Gull
Fritz
Fizbo
Fire
Equinox
Critter
Chiron
Bouquet
BlackMamba
Andscacs
Alfil
And what is missing from the ICGA list?
Answer: Most of the programs from the second list.
And why don't they participate?
Because the contest is meaningless unless you want a fancy, false sticker on your box.
Strelka, Houdini and fire stand out. There are probably others. This is why WE (the ICGA membership / participants) choose who gets to enter.
If you don't like the ICGA, nobody has forced you to join. But you sound like a bitter complainer and nothing else with these kinds of posts. Particularly when you are clueless about which are original and which are not.
Houdini and Fire are well accepted by the community at large.
But if we remove those three strong engines, my points all stand, completely unaltered.
A FIDE chess championship without :
would hardly be a championship.Code: Select all
Rank Name Title Country Rating Games B-Year 1 Carlsen, Magnus g NOR 2851 0 1990 2 Caruana, Fabiano g USA 2804 11 1992 3 Kramnik, Vladimir g RUS 2801 0 1975 4 Giri, Anish g NED 2790 0 1994 5 Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime g FRA 2788 0 1990 6 Nakamura, Hikaru g USA 2787 11 1987 7 Aronian, Levon g ARM 2784 0 1982 8 Karjakin, Sergey g RUS 2779 0 1990 9 Ding, Liren g CHN 2778 4 1992 10 So, Wesley g USA 2775 11 1993 11 Anand, Viswanathan g IND 2770 0 1969 12 Eljanov, Pavel g UKR 2765 0 1983 13 Harikrishna, P. g IND 2763 0 1986 14 Svidler, Peter g RUS 2762 0 1976 15 Li, Chao b g CHN 2756 4 1989 16 Topalov, Veselin g BUL 2754 0 1975 17 Grischuk, Alexander g RUS 2752 0 1983 18 Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar g AZE 2748 4 1985 19 Gelfand, Boris g ISR 2740 0 1968 20 Yu, Yangyi g CHN 2737 3 1994
You don't think that is insulting? It is a direct insult.Sounds like someone who would like an important sounding sticker on his box.
Second, houdini, et. al. are NOT "accepted by the community". They are accepted by a small group, including yourself, but they are non-original.
Your human world championship is pure nonsense since we don't clone humans.
You DO realize that houdini and fire have NEVER applied to attend the WCCC? How would you make them? They have not applied to enter anything. They just get picked up and entered by those that don't object to clones/derivatives.
Follow the events you like. Stop denigrating one that has a rule you don't like. It is not going to change anything unless the WCCC participants decide to change the rules. So far, that has not even been discussed, much less actually happened.
BTW I seem to remember a FIDE WC event without Kasparov. You remember that I assume? It happens.
Finally that "false" sticker is not false. This is, and has been the official world championship tournament since 1974. 42 years and counting. Claiming to have won that event is _NOT_ "false".
There are so many things wrong with your post, and yet you tell ME "you are a criminal and belong in jail"???
I don't think you even grasp the topic at all.