Hello,
Just wonder if those who have Fritz 12 already can tell us what the behaviour of the engine is in this two positions:
[D]1QqQqQq1/r6Q/Q6q/q6Q/B2q4/q6Q/k6K/1qQ1QqRb w - - 0 1
[D]5Q2/PP1B1P2/1P6/2B5/1p1P4/7p/nPR1bp1P/3k3K w - - 0 1
Michael
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Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
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Re: Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
I didn't know this positions ! Thanks to share !
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Re: Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
It is not released till October 7th.I suppose you will get answer then.
Just tested PF4 with Hiarcs 12.1 and 1st position is mate in 1 with Qxb1#.
The 2nd involved 3 under promotions including Bishop to achieve the win.
Main line 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3 4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1 7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N Bd3 11.a8=B Be2 12.f8=R with mate anouncements.
We know for sure that the #1 engine won't solve it
Just tested PF4 with Hiarcs 12.1 and 1st position is mate in 1 with Qxb1#.
The 2nd involved 3 under promotions including Bishop to achieve the win.
Main line 1.Rd2+ Kc1 2.Rd1+ Kxd1 3.Ba4+ b3 4.Bxb3+ Ke1 5.Bb4+ Nc3 6.Bxc3+ Kf1 7.Bc4 Bxc4 8.Qc5 Bd3 9.Qb5 Bxb5 10.b8=N Bd3 11.a8=B Be2 12.f8=R with mate anouncements.
We know for sure that the #1 engine won't solve it
Re: Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
The first position - I couldn't care less. It would never be achieved in any game.Michael Diosi wrote:Hello,
Just wonder if those who have Fritz 12 already can tell us what the behaviour of the engine is in this two positions:
Michael
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Re: Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
And still, the position is legal, and any decent chess engine should be able to solve it.Spock wrote:The first position - I couldn't care less. It would never be achieved in any game.Michael Diosi wrote:Hello,
Just wonder if those who have Fritz 12 already can tell us what the behaviour of the engine is in this two positions:
Michael
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Re: Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
Hi,
It can be reached. According to Nanand Petrovic Fairy Chess Review Okt 1946. I'm not sute you understood purpose of such a position. It is extreem but will show you typical a behaviour of an engine.
I don't know if the record has been broken but this is a LEGAL positon with 324 move possibilties (black and white added)
This is a legal postion and NAY engine should be able to see a mate in one instantly.
How about the second one ?
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It can be reached. According to Nanand Petrovic Fairy Chess Review Okt 1946. I'm not sute you understood purpose of such a position. It is extreem but will show you typical a behaviour of an engine.
I don't know if the record has been broken but this is a LEGAL positon with 324 move possibilties (black and white added)
This is a legal postion and NAY engine should be able to see a mate in one instantly.
How about the second one ?
Michael Diosi
http://www.playwitharena.com
Re: Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
It can theoretically be reached, but the chances are probably one in a trillion. I have more chances of winning the lottery every week for the rest of my life. So my comment stands - I don't give a toss how any engine deals with this position.Michael Diosi wrote:Hi,
It can be reached. According to Nanand Petrovic Fairy Chess Review Okt 1946. I'm not sute you understood purpose of such a position. It is extreem but will show you typical a behaviour of an engine.
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Re: A new engine ?
Michael Diosi wrote:
This is a legal postion and NAY engine should be able to see a mate in one instantly.
Michael Diosi
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Shalom Miky !
This NAY engine is a new one coming from Arena ?
Enlighten me please ?
Or maybe I'm under infamous coffee & Coca-Cola influences ?
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Re: Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
Just wait till someone sneaks in a line ending with this position into an opening book you use. Just as a joke. Especially if you bet money against it.Spock wrote:It can theoretically be reached, but the chances are probably one in a trillion. I have more chances of winning the lottery every week for the rest of my life. So my comment stands - I don't give a toss how any engine deals with this position.Michael Diosi wrote:Hi,
It can be reached. According to Nanand Petrovic Fairy Chess Review Okt 1946. I'm not sute you understood purpose of such a position. It is extreem but will show you typical a behaviour of an engine.
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Re: Any improvement in Fritz 12 behaviour ?
Hi,
Well I am sure engine programmers do because they understand what it is about. Of yourse I could have presented a much simpler poition where the same things happen but it is my choice what positon I present.
So what about the second one ? No answer ? Or is it also a position in a trillion ? Just like any position in such a stage of the game...
Michael
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Well I am sure engine programmers do because they understand what it is about. Of yourse I could have presented a much simpler poition where the same things happen but it is my choice what positon I present.
So what about the second one ? No answer ? Or is it also a position in a trillion ? Just like any position in such a stage of the game...
Michael
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