Lemming name

[BubbaTough]

Hi,

When I eventually release a public version of LearningLemming (and after finding another bug that has been bothering me for a long time we seem to be inching closer to a release) it will probably have learning disabled, but generate a tolearn.txt file that people can send me to conduct learning on my own computer.

If I do release such a version, that version will not really be learning so should I rename it?

-Sam

[krazyken]

I'm partial to Snow Lemming, but I would rather have a learning version.

[swami]

Hi,

When I eventually release a public version of LearningLemming (and after finding another bug that has been bothering me for a long time we seem to be inching closer to a release) it will probably have learning disabled, but generate a tolearn.txt file that people can send me to conduct learning on my own computer.

If I do release such a version, that version will not really be learning so should I rename it?

-Sam

I voted "Lemming" although I do like the sound of "Learning Lemming", It kinda lyrically rhyme.

Good to know that the version will be released finally, I'm sure you will get a lot of reports, bugs, stats, games etc in as short time as possible.

Good luck!

[mhull]

Hi,

When I eventually release a public version of LearningLemming (and after finding another bug that has been bothering me for a long time we seem to be inching closer to a release) it will probably have learning disabled, but generate a tolearn.txt file that people can send me to conduct learning on my own computer.

If I do release such a version, that version will not really be learning so should I rename it?

-Sam

Rename the non-learning version goldfish.

[Tony Thomas]

I like the current name, the whole learning animal thing fascinates me.

Silly suggestion, Learning Goat.

[Ovyron]

I suggest LazyLemming, it's so lazy it doesn't want to learn

Why is it being released without learning, though?

[BubbaTough]

I suggest LazyLemming, it's so lazy it doesn't want to learn

Why is it being released without learning, though?

LazyLemming is not bad. I am not very happy with the learning yet, but if I wait until I am, I may never release this sucker...as my development time is expected to be quite low for the next few years.

Before I release a learning version I would like to come up with a method for combining the learning done on everyone's computer in some useful way, that is resistant to some minor number of bad learn files. This is not that easy, and is lower in priority right now than adding SMP support, which may also take a long time. If I can get learning working this way, there is a chance for some seriously cool effects if folks can be convinced to let me regularly harvest their learn files in exchange for a new "collective knowledge" file.

The primary learning method I use, by the way, learns from conducting post game analysis, or studying games of others, and is done in a separate program that creates a file that LearningLemming reads when a new game is started. That means the learning program uses serious resources, and is not achieved via book-keeping (tracking wins/losses, memorizing positions, etc.) during games like in most computer chess learning. People that do not want a separate program sitting around on their computer sucking up resources may not want Lemming learning anyway. I know most testers don't .

-Sam

[Tony Thomas]

Most of you dont seem to realize how good this engine is.. Here is the rating of the engine from ICC.

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Information about LearningLemming(C) (Last disconnected Thu Oct 30 2008 04:29):

              rating [need] win  loss  draw total   best
Wild            1859  [6]     0     2     0     2                      
Bullet          2511       2243  3523   358  6124   2810 (29-Jul-2007) 
Blitz           2714       6387  4293  1458 12138   2971 (26-Sep-2008) 
Standard        2567       1865  1007   411  3283   2744 (11-Aug-2008)

For comparison, here is the rating of Crafty

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Statistics for crafty(C)         On for:   58     Idle:   58

              rating [need] win  loss  draw total   best
Wild            2032  [6]   344   109    11   464   2204 (03-Oct-2000) 
Bullet          2797       8792  1909  1381 12082   3286 (27-Dec-2002) 
Blitz           2391      67999 26169 18138 112306   3388 (09-Jun-2000) 
Standard        2470       7291  4964  3580 15835   2792 (25-Oct-2000) 

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Most of you dont seem to realize how good this engine is.. Here is the rating of the engine from ICC.

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Information about LearningLemming(C) (Last disconnected Thu Oct 30 2008 04:29):

              rating [need] win  loss  draw total   best
Wild            1859  [6]     0     2     0     2                      
Bullet          2511       2243  3523   358  6124   2810 (29-Jul-2007) 
Blitz           2714       6387  4293  1458 12138   2971 (26-Sep-2008) 
Standard        2567       1865  1007   411  3283   2744 (11-Aug-2008)

For comparison, here is the rating of Crafty

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Statistics for crafty(C)         On for:   58     Idle:   58

              rating [need] win  loss  draw total   best
Wild            2032  [6]   344   109    11   464   2204 (03-Oct-2000) 
Bullet          2797       8792  1909  1381 12082   3286 (27-Dec-2002) 
Blitz           2391      67999 26169 18138 112306   3388 (09-Jun-2000) 
Standard        2470       7291  4964  3580 15835   2792 (25-Oct-2000) 

Thanks Tony for the info,a quite impressive engine indeed
I'd like to test it with learning function switched on

[BubbaTough]

I'd like to test it with learning function switched on

Well, it is available on ICC to test against with learning on RIGHT NOW! The author also accepts grudge match appointments (on ICC) against all comers.

-Sam