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An Oldie but a Goodie

Post by smcracraft » Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:23 pm

A fun panel from a few years ago...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0148765375

The abstract follows:

The History of Computer Chess: An AI Perspective - 126 min - Jun 21, 2004
Computer History Museum - www.computerhistory.org
(24 Ratings) Rate:
Playing chess by computer began in the early 1950s, nearly as soon as computers became available. As a human activity, chess is believed to require thinking, yet in 1997 a massively-parallel supercomputer, drawing on over four decades of continual advances in both hardware and software, defeated the best human player in the world.Does playing chess require thinking? Or is human thinking perhaps a form of calculation, parts of which a computer can mimic? What is the tradeoff between knowledge and search? Was Claude Shannon s 1950 prediction that studying computer chess might lead to applications in other areas fulfilled? This panel, comprising seminal contributors to the solution of this challenge including two of AI s leading pioneers will discuss these and other questions as well as the origin and development of computer chess and what it tells us about ourselves and the machines we build."«

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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie

Post by Gerd Isenberg » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:25 am

smcracraft wrote:A fun panel from a few years ago...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0148765375

The abstract follows:

The History of Computer Chess: An AI Perspective - 126 min - Jun 21, 2004
Computer History Museum - www.computerhistory.org
(24 Ratings) Rate:
Playing chess by computer began in the early 1950s, nearly as soon as computers became available. As a human activity, chess is believed to require thinking, yet in 1997 a massively-parallel supercomputer, drawing on over four decades of continual advances in both hardware and software, defeated the best human player in the world.Does playing chess require thinking? Or is human thinking perhaps a form of calculation, parts of which a computer can mimic? What is the tradeoff between knowledge and search? Was Claude Shannon s 1950 prediction that studying computer chess might lead to applications in other areas fulfilled? This panel, comprising seminal contributors to the solution of this challenge including two of AI s leading pioneers will discuss these and other questions as well as the origin and development of computer chess and what it tells us about ourselves and the machines we build."«
The video is of great historical interest, specially John McCarthy (0:43:48) on the Stanford-ITEP-match and on alpha-beta (Knuth's question on alpha-beta at 1:03:17) and David Levy (16:48) on his bet with McCarthy. Since it is only a "decorated" link, I have embedded this video on several places in the cpw.

Gerd

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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie

Post by smcracraft » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:16 pm

Gerd Isenberg wrote:
smcracraft wrote:A fun panel from a few years ago...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0148765375

The abstract follows:

The History of Computer Chess: An AI Perspective - 126 min - Jun 21, 2004
Computer History Museum - www.computerhistory.org
(24 Ratings) Rate:
Playing chess by computer began in the early 1950s, nearly as soon as computers became available. As a human activity, chess is believed to require thinking, yet in 1997 a massively-parallel supercomputer, drawing on over four decades of continual advances in both hardware and software, defeated the best human player in the world.Does playing chess require thinking? Or is human thinking perhaps a form of calculation, parts of which a computer can mimic? What is the tradeoff between knowledge and search? Was Claude Shannon s 1950 prediction that studying computer chess might lead to applications in other areas fulfilled? This panel, comprising seminal contributors to the solution of this challenge including two of AI s leading pioneers will discuss these and other questions as well as the origin and development of computer chess and what it tells us about ourselves and the machines we build."«
The video is of great historical interest, specially John McCarthy (0:43:48) on the Stanford-ITEP-match and on alpha-beta (Knuth's question on alpha-beta at 1:03:17) and David Levy (16:48) on his bet with McCarthy. Since it is only a "decorated" link, I have embedded this video on several places in the cpw.

Gerd
I especially appreciated JMC's comment about using less cpu time
for chess processing, artificially limiting it, so that the hardware
doesn't get the better of the algorithms.

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