Interesting suite Dann! I run it with Rybka and it solved all except 3 with 10s level (P2400 only). But when suite is debugged with Rybka no surprise
Interestingly Toga and bright solve most positions with 1 ply, but Rybka or Fritz have always 5 resp 8 plys - probably they have some internal minimum depth for display.
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Silent but deadly
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Re: Silent but deadly
Thanks very much Dann. I guess you made this test at my suggestion, but I had no idea you would make such a nice testset so quickly. The reason I didn't respond earlier is that I broke EPD support with one of latest changes. I'll post my results later.
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Re: Silent but deadly
You do have UCI support, don't you? Then you have EPD support, even if you don't think you do.Zach Wegner wrote:Thanks very much Dann. I guess you made this test at my suggestion, but I had no idea you would make such a nice testset so quickly. The reason I didn't respond earlier is that I broke EPD support with one of latest changes. I'll post my results later.
Try this something like this:
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polyglot epd-test -epd sbd.epd -min-time 10 -max-time 60
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Re: Silent but deadly
Haha, my EPD support actually got broken when I was fixing a UCI bug. That's good to know though. I think I'll just download polyglot so that I can have a "UCI GUI".Tord Romstad wrote: You do have UCI support, don't you? Then you have EPD support, even if you don't think you do.
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Re: Silent but deadly [second correction]
I would be curious to know if Be7 really is better. I also tested the moves statistically for highest point percentage.michiguel wrote:[D]rn1qkbnr/pp1b1ppp/8/1Bpp4/3P4/8/PPPNQPPP/R1B1K1NR b KQkq - bm Qe7; id "sbd.120";
This is a well known position in the french defense. The move of choice is Be7, not Qe7. Qe7 has been played but it is not the one preferred by the theory.
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Re: Silent but deadly
Here are some results by strong engines at 30 seconds per position (I would have more but the tests hung when it got to GarboChess):
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Analyzing engine: Alaric707 90 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: AnMon_560 120 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: Alfil811Optimized 114 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: Arasanx 10.3 94 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: Aristarch 4.50 113 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: BaronUci 105 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: Booot413 94 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: Bright-0.3a 113 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: ChessTiger2007UCI 119 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: Colossus2007d 120 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: Deep Frenzee 107 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: Delfi 127 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: DeepSjeng 1.6 117 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: EngineShredder10UCI 114 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: Fruit-2-3-1 122 of 134 matching moves
Analyzing engine: Gandalf60 128 of 134 matching moves
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Re: Silent but deadly [second correction]
You are clearly right about this one. From my "high quality" database, I get 95% Be7 and a much better winning score than Qe7. Not sure how I goofed it up, but Be7 looks like the better move.Dann Corbit wrote:I would be curious to know if Be7 really is better. I also tested the moves statistically for highest point percentage.michiguel wrote:[D]rn1qkbnr/pp1b1ppp/8/1Bpp4/3P4/8/PPPNQPPP/R1B1K1NR b KQkq - bm Qe7; id "sbd.120";
This is a well known position in the french defense. The move of choice is Be7, not Qe7. Qe7 has been played but it is not the one preferred by the theory.
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Re: Silent but deadly
Can you send me the command that you are using to analyze the positions? I probably have a UCI bug somewhere there, and it would be good to fix.Dann Corbit wrote:Here are some results by strong engines at 30 seconds per position (I would have more but the tests hung when it got to GarboChess):
Thanks.
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Re: Silent but deadly [second correction]
I am going to reverify all of the positions using the database tonight, since this one was so awfully done.Dann Corbit wrote:You are clearly right about this one. From my "high quality" database, I get 95% Be7 and a much better winning score than Qe7. Not sure how I goofed it up, but Be7 looks like the better move.Dann Corbit wrote:I would be curious to know if Be7 really is better. I also tested the moves statistically for highest point percentage.michiguel wrote:[D]rn1qkbnr/pp1b1ppp/8/1Bpp4/3P4/8/PPPNQPPP/R1B1K1NR b KQkq - bm Qe7; id "sbd.120";
This is a well known position in the french defense. The move of choice is Be7, not Qe7. Qe7 has been played but it is not the one preferred by the theory.
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Re: Silent but deadly
I was running under Arena 1.1, doing an EPD test set against a collection of engines.gladius wrote:Can you send me the command that you are using to analyze the positions? I probably have a UCI bug somewhere there, and it would be good to fix.Dann Corbit wrote:Here are some results by strong engines at 30 seconds per position (I would have more but the tests hung when it got to GarboChess):
Thanks.
If you have a debug setting that will save the information you need, I can rerun it for you.