Hidden Step (Benjamin, Berserk, Ceibo, Drofa, Dumb, Galjoen, K2, KoK, KnightX, Nawito, Qapla, Supernova, Velvet, Waxman)

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Angle
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Hidden Step (Benjamin, Berserk, Ceibo, Drofa, Dumb, Galjoen, K2, KoK, KnightX, Nawito, Qapla, Supernova, Velvet, Waxman)

Post by Angle »

Intel i7-8750H-Quad; Windows 10
Arena 3.5.1; TC 40/2
Book: libra8.abk; Ponder off
TB: 5 man Syzygy
2 cycles, 50 rounds
All mp engines use 4 CPU.

Live Broadcast on my Youtube channel is available here:


Participants:
Benjamin 2.0
Benjamin 2.0 ES (ES = Experimental Settings)
Benjamin 2.0 ES2
Benjamin 2.0 ES3
Berserk 3.2.1
Ceibo 0.6
Drofa 2.1.0
Drofa 2.2.0
Dumb 1.7
Dumb 1.8
Galjoen 0.41
Galjoen 0.41.1
K2 0.96 dev
K2 0.99
King of Kings 2.56
KnightX 2.5
KnightX 2.61
Nawito 1906
Nawito 2012
Qapla 0.1.1
Supernova 2.2.1
Supernova 2.3
Velvet 1.1.0
Velvet 1.2.0
Waxman 2020
Weiss 0.8
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Re: Hidden Step (Benjamin, Berserk, Ceibo, Drofa, Dumb, Galjoen, K2, KoK, KnightX, Nawito, Qapla, Supernova, Velvet, Wax

Post by Rebel »

I hope you realize Benjamin 2.0 isn't a normal engine optimized for elo performance but (as the webpage states) a Tactical Analysis Engine for quickly discovering tactical shots estimated 200-250 elo less when playing games.

Nevertheless good luck with your tournament.
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Re: Hidden Step (Benjamin, Berserk, Ceibo, Drofa, Dumb, Galjoen, K2, KoK, KnightX, Nawito, Qapla, Supernova, Velvet, Wax

Post by Angle »

Rebel wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:47 pm I hope you realize Benjamin 2.0 isn't a normal engine optimized for elo performance but (as the webpage states) a Tactical Analysis Engine for quickly discovering tactical shots estimated 200-250 elo less when playing games.
I know but I'm trying to find settings suitable for practical play.
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Re: Hidden Step (Benjamin, Berserk, Ceibo, Drofa, Dumb, Galjoen, K2, KoK, KnightX, Nawito, Qapla, Supernova, Velvet, Wax

Post by Angle »

Srandings after Round 14:

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Re: Hidden Step (Benjamin, Berserk, Ceibo, Drofa, Dumb, Galjoen, K2, KoK, KnightX, Nawito, Qapla, Supernova, Velvet, Wax

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Standings after Round 30:

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Re: Hidden Step (Benjamin, Berserk, Ceibo, Drofa, Dumb, Galjoen, K2, KoK, KnightX, Nawito, Qapla, Supernova, Velvet, Wax

Post by carldaman »

Hi,
Curious, what are Benjamin's ES2/ES3 settings (if you're willing to share)?
Thanks! :)
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Re: Hidden Step (Benjamin, Berserk, Ceibo, Drofa, Dumb, Galjoen, K2, KoK, KnightX, Nawito, Qapla, Supernova, Velvet, Wax

Post by Angle »

carldaman wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:11 am Curious, what are Benjamin's ES2/ES3 settings (if you're willing to share)?
Most of the changes in Benjamin.eng file are common for the ES, ES2, and ES3 versions:

[Pawn Value = 117] (default = 100)
[Knight Value = 125] (def = 100)
[Bishop Value = 125] (def = 100)
[Rook Value = 124] (def = 100)
[Queen Value = 120] (def = 95)
[King Safety = 180] (def = 400)
[Pawn Structure = 105] (def = 110)
[Pawn Pressure = 90] (def = 100)
[Bishop Pair = 105] (def = 100)
[Bishop Pair Extra = 105] (def = 100)
[Attacking = 240] (def = 450)

The only parameter that differs in three versions is [Passed Pawns]:
110 in ES
102 in ES2
100 in ES3
(default = 125).
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Re: Hidden Step (Benjamin, Berserk, Ceibo, Drofa, Dumb, Galjoen, K2, KoK, KnightX, Nawito, Qapla, Supernova, Velvet, Wax

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Standings after Round 42:

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Re: Hidden Step (Benjamin, Berserk, Ceibo, Drofa, Dumb, Galjoen, K2, KoK, KnightX, Nawito, Qapla, Supernova, Velvet, Wax

Post by jhonnold »

Go Berserk! Thanks for running a tournament with Berserk included :D Glad to see it did very well!

I liked the banner that you were using for it, can I have a copy? If yes, please give me a name or something to give credit to for the art.
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Re: Hidden Step (Benjamin, Berserk, Ceibo, Drofa, Dumb, Galjoen, K2, KoK, KnightX, Nawito, Qapla, Supernova, Velvet, Wax

Post by Angle »

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