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Re: Winter is Coming (Amoeba, Beef, Combusk, Demoli, Fab, Halogen, Koivi, Lc0, Marvin, Minic, Nemori, Orion, Pedone, Win

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:52 pm
by fabianVDW
Winter perhaps overestimated its attack a bit?! Fab played it cool anyway...

Re: Winter is Coming (Amoeba, Beef, Combusk, Demoli, Fab, Halogen, Koivi, Lc0, Marvin, Minic, Nemori, Orion, Pedone, Win

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:02 pm
by Angle
fabianVDW wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:52 pm Winter perhaps overestimated its attack a bit?! Fab played it cool anyway...
I also think that knight sacrifice was a bit adventurous by black...

Re: Winter is Coming (Amoeba, Beef, Combusk, Demoli, Fab, Halogen, Koivi, Lc0, Marvin, Minic, Nemori, Orion, Pedone, Win

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:32 pm
by jorose
That was a fantastic game! Perhaps a bit too adventurous by Winter indeed, but also well defended by Fab.

Thanks for including Winter in your tournament!

Re: Winter is Coming (Amoeba, Beef, Combusk, Demoli, Fab, Halogen, Koivi, Lc0, Marvin, Minic, Nemori, Orion, Pedone, Win

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:39 pm
by Luecx
Nice tournament! I will follow it with big interest! Is there a way to watch the games while they are being played? Or is it atleast possible to see the played games somewhere? Really didnt except Koivisto to beat Lc0 :)

Re: Winter is Coming (Amoeba, Beef, Combusk, Demoli, Fab, Halogen, Koivi, Lc0, Marvin, Minic, Nemori, Orion, Pedone, Win

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:55 pm
by Kieren Pearson
Angle wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:19 pm Halogen is trying his best in a very tough company :shock:
Very tough field indeed :oops:. Halogen dev already +70 points to Halogen 8.1 so it will be back with a vengeance soon!

Re: Winter is Coming (Amoeba, Beef, Combusk, Demoli, Fab, Halogen, Koivi, Lc0, Marvin, Minic, Nemori, Orion, Pedone, Win

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:08 pm
by Angle
Luecx wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:39 pm Nice tournament! I will follow it with big interest! Is there a way to watch the games while they are being played? Or is it atleast possible to see the played games somewhere? Really didnt except Koivisto to beat Lc0 :)

No live stream so far :oops: I will upload a pgn file with all played games after round 16 and after the whole tourney (in very short format: just a move list). Next update will be in 2-3 hours (games are already played).

Koivisto is going well but there is a problem: it lost 3 games on time (each in over 100 moves) and one game by ''illegal move''. All these games were replayed. Unfortunately, I haven't saved a log-file of that games but I can produce it next time if you are interested.

Of course. a CPU version of Lc0 is playing here but still a nice win by Kiivisto :D

[pgn][Event "Winter is Coming"]
[Site "LAPTOP-AOLJ2Q55"]
[Date "2020.11.13"]
[Round "1"]
[White "LcZero 0.26.2-T703810"]
[Black "Koivisto 4.0"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2950"]
[Opening "QGD"]
[Time "09:58:10"]
[Variation "4.Bg5 Be7 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Nf3"]
[WhiteElo "3150"]
[TimeControl "20+3"]
[Termination "normal"]

1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 e6 4. Nc3 Be7 5. Bg5 Nbd7 6. e3 h6 7. Bh4 O-O 8.
Bd3 b6 9. cxd5 Nxd5 10. Bxe7 Nxe7 11. Qe2 Bb7 12. O-O c5 13. Rfd1 Bxf3 14.
Qxf3 cxd4 15. exd4 Nf6 16. Rac1 Rc8 17. g3 Qd7 18. Ba6 Rc7 19. a3 Rd8 20.
Bf1 Ned5 21. Nb5 Rxc1 22. Rxc1 a6 23. Nc3 b5 24. Nxd5 Nxd5 25. Bg2 Qd6 26.
h4 g6 27. b4 h5 28. Qe4 Ne7 29. Qb7 Rd7 30. Qe4 Kf8 31. Rd1 Nf5 32. d5 Ne7
33. Qd4 Kg8 34. Rc1 exd5 35. Rc3 Rd8 36. Rd3 Kh7 37. Rd1 Qe6 38. Rd3 Nf5
39. Qf4 Rd6 40. Kf1 Kg7 41. Bh3 d4 42. Kg1 Qf6 43. Qe4 Nh6 44. Rf3 Qd8 45.
Rd3 f5 46. Qe5+ Qf6 47. Qc5 Nf7 48. f4 Qe6 49. Bg2 Nh6 50. Kf1 Ng4 51. Bf3
Nh2+ 52. Kf2 Nxf3 53. Rxf3 Kf7 54. Rd3 Qa2+ 55. Kf1 Re6 56. Qc7+ Re7 57.
Qc1 Qe2+ 58. Kg1 Qxd3 59. Qf1 Qxf1+ 60. Kxf1 {White resigns} 0-1
[/pgn]

Re: Winter is Coming (Amoeba, Beef, Combusk, Demoli, Fab, Halogen, Koivi, Lc0, Marvin, Minic, Nemori, Orion, Pedone, Win

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:12 pm
by Angle
Kieren Pearson wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:55 pm
Angle wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:19 pm Halogen is trying his best in a very tough company :shock:
Very tough field indeed :oops:. Halogen dev already +70 points to Halogen 8.1 so it will be back with a vengeance soon!
Halogen is doing much better after round 16. I will show the updated table very soon.

Re: Winter is Coming (Amoeba, Beef, Combusk, Demoli, Fab, Halogen, Koivi, Lc0, Marvin, Minic, Nemori, Orion, Pedone, Win

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:39 pm
by Angle
All Marvin 4.0.0 games were replayed with MultiPV = 1, LogLevel = 2.
Koivisto 4.0 lost 3 games on time, they were also replayed.

Standings after round 16:

Image

All played games in pgn format (in a very short form: just move lists) are here:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/6sk0nn6x ... g.pgn/file

Re: Winter is Coming (Amoeba, Beef, Combusk, Demoli, Fab, Halogen, Koivi, Lc0, Marvin, Minic, Nemori, Orion, Pedone, Win

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:07 pm
by Koivisto
Angle wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:39 pm All Marvin 4.0.0 games were replayed with MultiPV = 1, LogLevel = 2.
Koivisto 4.0 lost 3 games on time, they were also replayed.

Standings after round 16:

Image

All played games in pgn format (in a very short form: just move lists) are here:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/6sk0nn6x ... g.pgn/file
Thanks for reporting the timeouts, will look into that

Re: Winter is Coming (Amoeba, Beef, Combusk, Demoli, Fab, Halogen, Koivi, Lc0, Marvin, Minic, Nemori, Orion, Pedone, Win

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:36 pm
by Guenther
Koivisto wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:07 pm
Angle wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:39 pm All Marvin 4.0.0 games were replayed with MultiPV = 1, LogLevel = 2.
Koivisto 4.0 lost 3 games on time, they were also replayed.

Standings after round 16:

Image

All played games in pgn format (in a very short form: just move lists) are here:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/6sk0nn6x ... g.pgn/file
Thanks for reporting the timeouts, will look into that
Games would be more interesting as pgn with eval/depth+time as usual (even for very fast tc), also for finding out bugs
in either the engines or the tournament setup. Just zip/7z the files.

I wonder why you first had to set Marvin to MPV=3, because it would not work normally at your side and now it suddenly works
with MPV=1 as it should?
Also if there are time losses by engine bugs they should count, or do you already think it was not due to the engine?

BTW, why do so much engine say 'resign' in your game file, uci engines usually cannot resign at all?