zullil wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:50 amIn any case, I'm sorry that my posts have bothered you. Had I realized that, I would have stopped upon request.
Really? Have you forgotten my post where I requested you to stop? It's here:
Ovyron wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:04 pm
zullil wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:15 pmBy the way, I don't understand your interest in tails of PVs or "precise" evaluations. Whatever Stockfish is looking at 80-120 plies from the root, it's not changing the first dozen moves of the PV. Stockfish is a chess engine. It's designed to play a "best" move
in the current root position. I'm content to just let it do its thing.
I'm now going to claim that I don't believe you
It's very easy to make up scores about some supposed Stockfish dev high depth and claim it has found all the moves we've been playing unassisted. Storing the PVs and showing them after the game ends or whatever would work as proof that you have actually been doing something, but they have been conveniently discarded by you, who supposedly runs the engine all that time and only nods that the move matches with whatever we play every time, and that our moves have been in the PV all along?? Come on!
So stop with the lies or I'm going to start reporting your posts to moderation because all you're causing is game disruption, who knows if you're reaching Depth 40 and fudging the score or who knows what. We can't know because you discard the whole point of high depth
So, no, you didn't stop.
zullil wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:50 amI actually left the search running, and was a bit surprised to see that depth 78 is still not resolved. Once that happens, I'm happy to send a screenshot, including the current PV, to a trusted third-party, as evidence that I've done exactly what I've claimed. Maybe Dann would be interested in it?
Was it so hard to keep screenshots and show them after the game was over? That was my entire problem with what you were doing, that I was allowing you to see my moves for free, and you were going to keep your analysis secret, and worse than that, you were discarding it.
So now you get nothing. And least, not while it matters.
Sure, go ahead and send the screenshot to Dann, everybody else that wanted to see the screenshot will be screwed over. That's what I find bothersome, that the only way for you to show anything (and to a single random person of the audience, at that) was to make the game private, otherwise, you had no reason to prove that you're not just lying, and you wouldn't have done so.
All your posts on this game have been mean-spirited, only to attack Harvey and me, because we are incapable of playing an "original line" because all our moves can be predicted by your Stockfish. That's what has been your entire objective all along, and nothing else.
But if that was true, and you were able to predict all our moves, you'd be able to predict the outcome of the game. Yet, you have NOTHING. Your score and PV at Depth 76 TELLS YOU NOTHING. You have no idea if I hold the draw or Harvey wins. You have a prediction that the game ends at Black's 63rd with an unresolved result, and its tail of that PV is garbage, and nobody would be able to tell at what point that tail begins because you weren't going to save any line.
Making the game private makes it impossible for you to continue discrediting Harvey's and me's analysis methods, you can no longer accuse us of being unoriginal because your Stockfish plays the same move, and for me, that's a small victory.