Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31721 vs Stockfish 9 (3435 elo)

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Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31721 vs Stockfish 9 (3435 elo)

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Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31721 vs Stockfish 9 (3435 elo)

The 20 possible opening moves
40 games
Ponder on
LC0 with RTX 2080 Ti 32 kn/s
Stockfish 9 with 4 cores @ 4.2 ghz
Time control: 1 min per game + 1 second per move.

Result:
LC0 22 points
Stockfish 18 points
+11 =22 -7
Winning percentage = 55.00%

= LC0 is 35 elo stronger than Stockfish 9.
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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31721 vs Stockfish 9 (3435 elo)

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[pgn][Event "\[147\] LC0 (ID 31721) vs Stockfish 9 (343"] [Site "Lokaler Computer"] [Date "2018.12.01"] [Round "3"] [White "Lc0 v0.19.0"] [Black "Stockfish 9 64 POPCNT"] [Result "1-0"] [WhiteElo "3450"] [BlackElo "3435"] [PlyCount "285"] [EventDate "2018.??.??"] 1. a4 Nf6 2. d4 e6 3. Nf3 c5 4. e3 Nc6 5. Bd3 b6 6. O-O Bb7 7. Nbd2 Be7 8. dxc5 bxc5 9. e4 d5 10. c3 O-O 11. Re1 Qc7 12. Qe2 Rab8 13. Bc2 Rfd8 14. a5 Nxa5 15. e5 Nd7 16. h4 Nf8 17. h5 h6 18. Nh2 Bg5 19. Ng4 Ba8 20. Rf1 c4 21. f4 Be7 22. Nf3 Bc5+ 23. Nd4 Nc6 24. Be3 Rxb2 25. f5 Nxe5 26. f6 Bxd4 27. cxd4 Rxc2 28. Qd1 Nxg4 29. Qxg4 g6 30. Bxh6 Rc3 31. Bf4 Qb6 32. Rad1 e5 33. Bxe5 Rd3 34. Rb1 Qa5 35. hxg6 Nxg6 36. Rf5 Qa2 37. Rbf1 Rd2 38. Rg5 Rxg2+ 39. Qxg2 Qxg2+ 40. Kxg2 Rd7 41. Kf2 Bc6 42. Rb1 Rb7 43. Rxb7 Bxb7 44. Bd6 a5 45. Rh5 Ba8 46. Ke2 Bb7 47. Kd2 Ba8 48. Kc2 Bc6 49. Kb1 Ba8 50. Ka2 Bc6 51. Ka3 Nh8 52. Bf8 Ng6 53. Bg7 Bb7 54. Ka4 Bc8 55. Rxd5 Be6 56. Rh5 c3 57. Bh6 c2 58. Bc1 Bg4 59. Rg5 Bf3 60. Kxa5 Kh8 61. Rg3 Be4 62. Kb4 Kh7 63. Rg4 Bf3 64. Rg3 Be4 65. Kc5 Bf5 66. Rg5 Bd7 67. Kd6 Ba4 68. d5 Bb5 69. Rg2 Bd3 70. Rg5 Bc4 71. Kc5 Bb3 72. Rg3 Ne5 73. Rxb3 Kg6 74. Rc3 Kxf6 75. Rxc2 Kf5 76. Kd4 Nd7 77. Rc7 Ne5 78. d6 f6 79. Kd5 Kg4 80. d7 Nxd7 81. Rxd7 Kf3 82. Kd4 Kg4 83. Ke3 Kf5 84. Kf2 Ke4 85. Rh7 Kd5 86. Rh1 Kd4 87. Bd2 Kd3 88. Ke1 Ke4 89. Rh3 Kd5 90. Ra3 Ke5 91. Bh6 Kd5 92. Bc1 Kc5 93. Kf2 Kd5 94. Ke2 Ke5 95. Bg5 fxg5 96. Kf2 Ke6 97. Kg2 g4 98. Kh1 Kd5 99. Ra8 Kc5 100. Rg8 Kd6 101. Rxg4 Kc5 102. Rg1 Kd4 103. Rd1+ Kc4 104. Rd8 Kc5 105. Rh8 Kd5 106. Kg1 Ke5 107. Rh7 Kd5 108. Ra7 Kc5 109. Ra2 Kd5 110. Rg2 Kd4 111. Rg7 Ke5 112. Kf2 Kd4 113. Kf1 Kd5 114. Rg3 Ke5 115. Rb3 Kd6 116. Rb2 Kc6 117. Rb8 Kc7 118. Rh8 Kd6 119. Rh1 Kd5 120. Ke1 Ke5 121. Rh4 Kf5 122. Rb4 Ke5 123. Rb1 Ke6 124. Ra1 Ke5 125. Ra8 Kd4 126. Rg8 Kd5 127. Kd1 Ke6 128. Rh8 Ke5 129. Rh6 Kf4 130. Rh5 Kg4 131. Ra5 Kf4 132. Kc2 Ke4 133. Kc3 Ke3 134. Ra4 Ke2 135. Kd4 Kf3 136. Kd3 Kf2 137. Rf4+ Kg1 138. Ke2 Kg2 139. Rf3 Kg1 140. Rg3+ Kh1 141. Kf2 Kh2 142. Ra3 Kh1 143. Rh3# 1-0[/pgn]

[pgn][Event "\[147\] LC0 (ID 31721) vs Stockfish 9 (343"] [Site "Lokaler Computer"] [Date "2018.12.01"] [Round "25"] [White "Lc0 v0.19.0"] [Black "Stockfish 9 64 POPCNT"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "D11"] [WhiteElo "3450"] [BlackElo "3435"] [PlyCount "301"] [EventDate "2018.??.??"] 1. g3 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Bg2 c6 4. O-O Bg4 5. c4 e6 6. d4 Be7 7. Qb3 Qb6 8. c5 Qxb3 9. axb3 Na6 10. Nc3 Nd7 11. e4 Nb4 12. Ra4 Nd3 13. Be3 Nxb2 14. Ra3 Nd3 15. b4 Nxb4 16. Rb1 Nc2 17. Ra2 Nxe3 18. fxe3 Bf6 19. e5 Bd8 20. Rxb7 a5 21. h3 Bh5 22. e4 Nb8 23. Na4 Nd7 24. Nh4 g6 25. Rab2 h6 26. exd5 exd5 27. Bf1 Bg5 28. Ng2 Bf3 29. Nf4 Nf8 30. Bd3 Rd8 31. R2b6 Bxf4 32. gxf4 Ne6 33. Rxc6 O-O 34. Rd6 Nxd4 35. Kf2 Bh1 36. Nb6 Ne6 37. c6 Rxd6 38. exd6 d4 39. Bb5 d3 40. Nd7 d2 41. Ke2 Nd4+ 42. Kxd2 Nxb5 43. Nxf8 Nxd6 44. Rd7 Nc4+ 45. Kc3 Bxc6 46. Rd8 Ne3 47. Nxg6+ Kg7 48. Ne7 Bb5 49. Kd2 Nc4+ 50. Kc3 Ne3 51. Kd4 Nc2+ 52. Ke4 Nb4 53. Rd6 f6 54. Nf5+ Kg6 55. Ne3 h5 56. h4 Ba4 57. Rb6 Bc6+ 58. Kd4 Kf7 59. f5 Ke7 60. Nc4 Nc2+ 61. Kc3 Nb4 62. Kd4 Nc2+ 63. Kc5 Bd7 64. Rb7 Ke8 65. Rb2 Nb4 66. Rb3 Na6+ 67. Kd6 Bxf5 68. Nxa5 Bc2 69. Rb7 Kf8 70. Nb3 Be4 71. Ra7 Bd3 72. Ke6 f5 73. Nd4 Nc5+ 74. Kf6 Ke8 75. Nxf5 Kd8 76. Ra5 Ne4+ 77. Ke5 Kc7 78. Ng7 Bb1 79. Nxh5 Nf2 80. Nf6 Nd3+ 81. Kf5 Nc5+ 82. Ke5 Nb7 83. Ra1 Bg6 84. Nd5+ Kb8 85. Nf4 Bh7 86. h5 Nd8 87. Kf6 Nc6 88. Kg7 Bc2 89. Rc1 Be4 90. Kf6 Kb7 91. h6 Nb8 92. Re1 Bc2 93. Kg7 Ka7 94. Rc1 Be4 95. Re1 Bf5 96. Ng6 Na6 97. h7 Kb7 98. h8=Q Nc7 99. Re7 Kc6 100. Rxc7+ Kxc7 101. Qh5 Bb1 102. Kh8 Kb6 103. Qh2 Bxg6 104. Qh6 Kc6 105. Qxg6+ Kd5 106. Qg3 Kd4 107. Qg2 Kd3 108. Qa8 Kc3 109. Qe8 Kd3 110. Qd7+ Kc3 111. Qc7+ Kd2 112. Qd6+ Kc3 113. Qd7 Kc4 114. Qh3 Kb4 115. Qh5 Kc4 116. Qd1 Kb5 117. Qd4 Kc6 118. Qd8 Kc5 119. Qh4 Kb5 120. Qe4 Kc5 121. Kh7 Kb6 122. Qf5 Ka7 123. Kh8 Kb6 124. Qe5 Kc6 125. Qb2 Kc5 126. Qc1+ Kd4 127. Kg8 Kd3 128. Qa1 Kc4 129. Kh8 Kd3 130. Qf1+ Kc3 131. Kg7 Kd4 132. Kf8 Ke3 133. Ke8 Kd4 134. Kd8 Kc3 135. Kc8 Kd2 136. Kb8 Kc3 137. Ka8 Kd2 138. Qf7 Kd3 139. Qd7+ Ke4 140. Qb7+ Kf4 141. Qb4+ Kf3 142. Qb3+ Ke2 143. Qh3 Kf2 144. Kb7 Ke2 145. Kc6 Kf2 146. Kd5 Ke2 147. Kd4 Kf2 148. Qg4 Ke1 149. Ke3 Kf1 150. Qg7 Ke1 151. Qg1# 1-0[/pgn]

[pgn][Event "\[147\] LC0 (ID 31721) vs Stockfish 9 (343"] [Site "Lokaler Computer"] [Date "2018.12.01"] [Round "27"] [White "Lc0 v0.19.0"] [Black "Stockfish 9 64 POPCNT"] [Result "1-0"] [WhiteElo "3450"] [BlackElo "3435"] [PlyCount "93"] [EventDate "2018.??.??"] 1. g4 d5 2. Bg2 Nc6 3. c4 d4 4. h3 e5 5. d3 Nge7 6. Nd2 h5 7. g5 a5 8. h4 Ng6 9. Ne4 Nce7 10. Nf3 Nf5 11. a3 Bd6 12. Bd2 c6 13. Bh3 O-O 14. Qc2 Be6 15. Bxf5 Bxf5 16. Ng3 Bg4 17. Nh2 Bh3 18. Nxh5 b5 19. c5 Bc7 20. Nf1 Bg2 21. Rg1 Nxh4 22. Nfg3 Qc8 23. Ne4 Rd8 24. f3 Qh3 25. O-O-O Rdb8 26. Kb1 Ng6 27. Nhf6+ gxf6 28. gxf6 Rd8 29. Bc1 b4 30. Ng5 Qg3 31. e4 Nh4 32. Rd2 b3 33. Qd1 Ra7 34. f4 Qxg5 35. fxg5 Bf3 36. Qf1 Ng6 37. Qxf3 Rd5 38. exd5 Kf8 39. Rh2 Ke8 40. dxc6 Kd8 41. Qd5+ Bd6 42. Qxd6+ Kc8 43. Rh7 a4 44. Rg7 Ne7 45. fxe7 Rd7 46. Qxd7+ Kb8 47. Qb7# 1-0[/pgn]

[pgn][Event "\[147\] LC0 (ID 31721) vs Stockfish 9 (343"] [Site "Lokaler Computer"] [Date "2018.12.01"] [Round "28"] [White "Stockfish 9 64 POPCNT"] [Black "Lc0 v0.19.0"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "3435"] [BlackElo "3450"] [PlyCount "240"] [EventDate "2018.??.??"] 1. g4 d5 2. e3 h5 3. g5 e5 4. h4 Nc6 5. d4 Bd6 6. Nf3 Nge7 7. dxe5 Nxe5 8. Bd2 O-O 9. Nxe5 Bxe5 10. Nc3 g6 11. Bg2 c6 12. Qe2 b5 13. O-O-O b4 14. Na4 Qa5 15. b3 c5 16. f4 Bg7 17. e4 Bg4 18. Bf3 Bd7 19. f5 Bxa4 20. bxa4 dxe4 21. f6 exf3 22. Qxe7 Rfe8 23. Qb7 Qxa4 24. Kb1 Rab8 25. Qd5 Bf8 26. Rhf1 b3 27. cxb3 Red8 28. Ka1 Rxd5 29. bxa4 Bd6 30. Bc3 Rxd1+ 31. Rxd1 Bg3 32. Rd3 f2 33. Rf3 Bxh4 34. Be5 Re8 35. Bd6 c4 36. Be7 c3 37. Kb1 Rc8 38. Kc2 a6 39. Ba3 Bxg5 40. Rxf2 Rc6 41. Be7 Kh7 42. Rh2 Bxf6 43. Bxf6 Rxf6 44. Rg2 Kh6 45. Kxc3 h4 46. Kd4 Kh5 47. Ke5 Rf1 48. Rd2 g5 49. Rd3 Kg4 50. Rd4+ Rf4 51. Rd6 Rf2 52. Rxa6 h3 53. Rb6 Rxa2 54. Rf6 h2 55. Rh6 Kg3 56. Rh5 g4 57. Kd4 Rxa4+ 58. Kc3 Ra8 59. Kb4 Kg2 60. Kb5 g3 61. Kb6 h1=Q 62. Rxh1 Kxh1 63. Kc7 Ra2 64. Kd6 Rh2 65. Ke7 Rc2 66. Kxf7 Rh2 67. Ke6 Rh5 68. Kf7 Rb5 69. Kf6 Ra5 70. Ke6 Ra6+ 71. Kd5 Ra7 72. Kc5 Rf7 73. Kd6 Rf4 74. Ke5 Rh4 75. Kf5 Rb4 76. Ke6 g2 77. Kf5 Rb8 78. Ke4 Kh2 79. Kd4 Rh8 80. Kd5 Rh7 81. Ke5 Rh4 82. Kd6 Ra4 83. Kc6 Rf4 84. Kb6 Rf8 85. Kc5 Kg3 86. Kc6 Kg4 87. Kc5 Kg5 88. Kb6 Kh6 89. Kc5 Kh7 90. Kd4 Rh8 91. Ke4 Ra8 92. Kd5 Ra5+ 93. Ke4 Ra7 94. Kd4 Ra2 95. Kc4 Ra5 96. Kb4 Rh5 97. Kc4 Rh2 98. Kd4 Kh8 99. Kc4 Rh5 100. Kd3 Rh3+ 101. Ke4 Rb3 102. Kd4 Ra3 103. Kd5 Ra7 104. Ke4 g1=R 105. Ke5 Ra3 106. Kd5 Rg2 107. Kd4 Rh3 108. Ke5 Ra2 109. Kf5 Rb3 110. Ke5 Rb1 111. Ke4 Ra5 112. Kd3 Rh5 113. Kc3 Rbh1 114. Kd4 R1h4+ 115. Kc3 Rg5 116. Kd2 Rg3 117. Ke2 Rh2+ 118. Kf1 Ra3 119. Kg1 Rb2 120. Kf1 Ra1# 0-1[/pgn]
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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31721 vs Stockfish 9 (3435 elo)

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That also means:

LC0 ist slightly stronger than newest Komodo and Houdini with 8 cores!
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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31721 vs Stockfish 9 (3435 elo)

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Hai wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:19 am That also means:

LC0 ist slightly stronger than newest Komodo and Houdini with 8 cores!
With so few games, this means nothing.
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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31721 vs Stockfish 9 (3435 elo)

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sovaz1997 wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:58 am
Hai wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:19 am That also means:

LC0 ist slightly stronger than newest Komodo and Houdini with 8 cores!
With so few games, this means nothing.
Not only that, but notice idiotic all possible opening moves, and then Lc0 wins in g4, a4 type of openings. Just plain ridiculous.
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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31721 vs Stockfish 9 (3435 elo)

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Hai wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:38 pm Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31721 vs Stockfish 9 (3435 elo)

The 20 possible opening moves
40 games
Ponder on
LC0 with RTX 2080 Ti 32 kn/s
Stockfish 9 with 4 cores @ 4.2 ghz
Time control: 1 min per game + 1 second per move.

Result:
LC0 22 points
Stockfish 18 points
+11 =22 -7
Winning percentage = 55.00%

= LC0 is 35 elo stronger than Stockfish 9.
You should use the strongest Net available for LCzero which is 32930 with 20.2 cpu 3.4 and cpuctbase = 10K for Leela, just released for TCEC. Also you should change the TC to at least 5min+3s. You can also change or limit the opening to only 5 opening moves and let them think for themselves instead of using Human openings up to 20 moves, lets see how Stockfish and Leela can be creative from moves 5 of each openings. :shock:
Do NOT worry and be happy, we all live a short life :roll:
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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31721 vs Stockfish 9 (3435 elo)

Post by Chessqueen »

Milos wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:01 am
sovaz1997 wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:58 am
Hai wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:19 am That also means:

LC0 ist slightly stronger than newest Komodo and Houdini with 8 cores!
With so few games, this means nothing.
Not only that, but notice idiotic all possible opening moves, and then Lc0 wins in g4, a4 type of openings. Just plain ridiculous.
In that case you should use the strongest Net available for LCzero which is 32930 with 20.2 cpu 3.4 and cpuctbase = 10K for Leela, just released for TCEC. Also you should change the TC to at least 5min+3s. You can also change or limit the opening to only 5 opening moves and let them think for themselves instead of using Human openings up to 20 moves, lets see how Stockfish and Leela can be creative from moves 5 of each openings. By you selecting the different openings for Leela and Strockfish to play, but NOT starting from the start position since they will play the same openings many many times repeatedly, as you can observe here in TCEC ==>
https://tcec.chessdom.com/
Do NOT worry and be happy, we all live a short life :roll: