TCEC Season 11: Premier Division

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Re: Premier Division: Standings after 49 rounds

Post by APassionForCriminalJustic » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:47 am

Dann Corbit wrote:
JamesTCEC wrote:Standings after 49 rounds: Stockfish and Houdini still are in the top two positions and they have increased the advantage over Komodo. Ginkgo and Fizbo remains in the bottom two positions but the latter is getting closer to Chiron. Still 35 rounds to be played so, nothing is decided yet. Watch live games in http://tcec.chessdom.com/live.php

Standing after 49 rounds

1. [Stockfish 100218] 34.0/49 (743.00)
2. [Houdini 6.03] 32.5/49 (727.75)
3. [Komodo 2012.00] 29.0/49 (661.75)
4. [Fire 020718] 26.0/49 (578.50)
5. [Chiron 110218] 22.5/49 (492.25)
6. [Andscacs 0.93] 22.0/49 (497.25)
7. [Fizbo 2] 19.0/49 (421.00)
8. [Ginkgo 2.03] 11.0/49 (281.00)
Too bad only the top 2 engines go on to the superfinal.
I would like to see 4 then 2.
The differences look significant until you look at the head to head results, which are extremely close. It may be that (for instance) the SF tweaking of contempt allows for far less cautious play against much weaker engines giving more points. But this may or may not lead to better play against the top engines (only Houdini has no losses). Against the high-end competition, K and SF have similar records. The no losses for H is likely just a probability anomaly. Not enough games to make an accurate statement.
I get the perception that Fire is not as strong against the top 3 but there are not really enough games for that. Too bad Shredder won't play.
There won't be much of a superfinal. The latest Stockfish is disgustingly strong. Stockfish development is alive again. This will be a very easy superfinal for Stockfish. Frankly, Komodo did not belong in the last superfinal. It barely squeezed its way through. "Drawfish" aka Stockfish with contempt 0 has been solved leaving its only real weakness in these tournaments left in the dust.

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Re: Premier Division: Standings after 49 rounds

Post by Jouni » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:20 am

Andscacs win over Komodo was stunning: it won rook/pawn ending without tablebases! Just after somebody wrote in chat: Andscacs can't beat top 3 engines without tb :) .
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Re: Premier Division: Standings after 49 rounds

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:40 am

You have to face the truth. Komodo is just weak. A new version has just been released and unfortunately it is still a poor program. And for what people pay 100 $. :lol:

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Premier Division: Standings after 56 rounds

Post by JamesTCEC » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:54 pm

2/3 of Premier Division are completed up to this point. It looks like Stockfish and Houdini have a good margin over Komodo. Fizbo and Ginkgo continue in the relegation positions. In general, we can see a difference of more than two points between any position and the position just below it. Follow live games in http://tcec.chessdom.com/live.php

Standing after 56 rounds

1. [Stockfish 100218] 39.5/56 (992.50)
2. [Houdini 6.03] 37.0/56 (949.75)
3. [Komodo 2012.00] 32.5/56 (848.50)
4. [Fire 020718] 29.5/56 (755.50)
5. [Chiron 110218] 26.0/56 (656.25)
6. [Andscacs 0.93] 24.5/56 (634.00)
7. [Fizbo 2] 21.0/56 (526.50)
8. [Ginkgo 2.03] 14.0/56 (412.00)

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Re: Premier Division: Standings after 56 rounds

Post by Jouni » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:18 am

Obviously xx. g4!(pawn) is almost always win for SF and Houdini :!: :) .
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Premier Division: Standings after 63 rounds

Post by JamesTCEC » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:32 pm

Stockfish & Houdini are in qualifying temporarily to superfinal, Fizbo & Ginkgo will be relegated to 1st Division if they stay in the bottom. Still 21 rounds to go in this Division. Follow live games in http://tcec.chessdom.com/live.php

Standing after 63 rounds

1. [Stockfish 100218] 45.5/63 (1282.00)
2. [Houdini 6.03] 41.5/63 (1196.25)
3. [Komodo 2012.00] 37.0/63 (1070.75)
4. [Fire 020718] 33.5/63 (951.25)
5. [Chiron 110218] 29.0/63 (828.25)
6. [Andscacs 0.93] 26.5/63 (766.00)
7. [Fizbo 2] 22.5/63 (643.50)
8. [Ginkgo 2.03] 16.5/63 (532.50)

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Premier Division: Standings after 70 rounds

Post by JamesTCEC » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:19 pm

Standings after 70 rounds in Premier Division: Stockfish is leading with 5.0 points advantage over Houdini. The latter has 4.0 points advantage over Komodo. The bottom places are occupied by Fizbo and Ginkgo. 14 rounds are to he played, so there is still a chance that the standings change. Follow live games in http://tcec.chessdom.com/live.php

Standing after 70 rounds

1. [Stockfish 100218] 51.0/70 (1586.50)
2. [Houdini 6.03] 46.0/70 (1477.50)
3. [Komodo 2012.00] 42.0/70 (1347.00)
4. [Fire 020718] 36.5/70 (1158.25)
5. [Andscacs 0.93] 31.5/70 (1002.50)
6. [Chiron 110218] 29.0/70 (932.00)
7. [Fizbo 2] 24.5/70 (776.25)
8. [Ginkgo 2.03] 19.5/70 (693.00)
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Re: Premier Division: Standings after 56 rounds

Post by JamesTCEC » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:24 pm

Correction: Andscacs is 5th and Chiron is 6th. All the numbers are right.

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Re: Premier Division: Standings after 49 rounds

Post by JamesTCEC » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:24 pm

Correction: Andscacs is 5th and Chiron is 6th. All the numbers are right.

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Re: Premier Division: Standings after 49 rounds

Post by Jouni » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:10 pm

Over now. SF performance against Fizbo was 3700 ELO by score 11/12 :!: BTW archive is missing this game: Ginkgo 2.03 1/2 1/2 Houdini 6.03 TB position 251 moves (round 67).
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