Nakamura vs. Komodo

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How will Komodo score in 4 handicap games with Nakamura?

Poll ended at Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:59 am

Half a point or zero.
0
No votes
one point.
0
No votes
1.5 points.
3
16%
two points.
3
16%
2.5 points.
6
32%
three points.
7
37%
3.5 or 4 points.
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 19

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Re: Nakamura vs. Komodo

Post by lkaufman » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:44 pm

overlord wrote:Larry, why don´t you offer Nakamura to play completly different odd match? From my point of view it is more iteresting to see normal chess, but with také back odds (let´s say that Nakamura can take back five moves). You might be very surprised how much it improves human play.
That's an idea we could try in the future. I imagine it would add at least a hundred elo. Maybe combined with White pieces, draw odds, and no book it might be enough for a fair match. Perhaps unlimited number of takebacks, but only one per move and not after he plays another move.
Komodo rules!

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Re: Nakamura vs. Komodo

Post by Graham Banks » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:30 pm

Is there a live feed somewhere that one doesn't have to pay a subscription to see?
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Re: Nakamura vs. Komodo

Post by Graham Banks » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:43 pm

Graham Banks wrote:Is there a live feed somewhere that one doesn't have to pay a subscription to see?
Oh - just realised I'm a day ahead here. :lol:
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Re: Nakamura vs. Komodo

Post by APassionForCriminalJustic » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:29 am

lkaufman wrote:
overlord wrote:Larry, why don´t you offer Nakamura to play completly different odd match? From my point of view it is more iteresting to see normal chess, but with také back odds (let´s say that Nakamura can take back five moves). You might be very surprised how much it improves human play.
That's an idea we could try in the future. I imagine it would add at least a hundred elo. Maybe combined with White pieces, draw odds, and no book it might be enough for a fair match. Perhaps unlimited number of takebacks, but only one per move and not after he plays another move.
Take back moves? Naka is a fighter, not a coward. He wouldn't even want that. I'm actually surprised that he is playing odds matches like these. It seems like your trying to turn chess and Elo into a mathematical formula. Let's just have normal chess. We do not need take back moves and\or handicap entries to purposely serve as an advantage to the human being. The only thing that could occur here are fabricated, fake victories if obtained by the human being.

You speak about serving as a fair match. What is the point of cheating the position that the computer becomes forced to play - a position that would never actually come to light? Not matter how you try to spin this, this stuff is fake. Masters become great because they worked hard at the game and achieved obtaining their norms and winning tournaments. They will always fight. They don't need handicaps to win by cheating. They will lose against Komodo, sure, but they should lose with honor.

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Re: Nakamura vs. Komodo

Post by JJJ » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:10 am

Always negative comment and still nobody care.

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Re: Nakamura vs. Komodo

Post by mjlef » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:20 pm

If you are a day ahead, maybe you can tell us how the first games turned out? :-) And can I borrow the time machine. I would only use it to see what I did tomorrow so I could spend the day on vacation.

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Re: Nakamura vs. Komodo

Post by sainzlei » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:07 pm

Twitch is broadcast now.

http://www.twitch.tv/chess

:D

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Re: Nakamura vs. Komodo

Post by Graham Banks » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:42 pm

sainzlei wrote:Twitch is broadcast now.

http://www.twitch.tv/chess

:D
The broadcast is a real pain.

Those GMs need a separate board to show all of their analysis on, so that the viewer can always see the current position in the actual game.

It's almost like the broadcast is about them rather than the actual game.
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Re: Nakamura vs. Komodo

Post by Waschbaer » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:14 pm

Is there any broadcast of Nakamura / Komodo games showing the list of moves made?
Sometimes it is hard to find out what analysis is and what the moves made :-)

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Re: Nakamura vs. Komodo

Post by Jesse Gersenson » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:23 pm

Graham Banks wrote:
sainzlei wrote:Twitch is broadcast now.

http://www.twitch.tv/chess

:D
The broadcast is a real pain.

Those GMs need a separate board to show all of their analysis on, so that the viewer can always see the current position in the actual game.

It's almost like the broadcast is about them rather than the actual game.
The game is broadcast in another section of chess.com and the broadcast (chess.com/tv) is a supplement. If you have a chess.com account, it's free to make one, you can view the game
1. http://www.chess.com/livechess/myhome
2. click play live chess
3. click the 'events' tab
4. find the game and click on it.

If one's available I'll post a more direct link when the next game starts.

Game 1:
http://u.komodochess.com/games/Nakamura.pgn

[Event "Live Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2016.01.06"]
[White "Hikaru"]
[Black "KomodoChess"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2787"]
[BlackElo "3200"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/ppppp1pp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[TimeControl "45|15"]
[Termination "Game drawn by agreement"]

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.Qh5+ g6 5.Qe5+ Qe7 6.Qxe7+ Nxe7 7.Bf4 Bg7 8.c3 c5 9.dxc5 Nd7 10.Bd6 Nf5 11.Bb5 Nxd6 12.cxd6 a6 13.Ba4 O-O 14.Bb3 Nc5 15.Bxd5+ Kh8 16.Nf3 Nd3+ 17.Kf1 Bf5 18.Nbd2 Rad8 19.Bxb7 Nxb2 20.Be4 Be6 21.h4 Bxc3 22.Rc1 Na4 23.h5 g5 24.Nxg5 Bxd2 25.Nxe6 Bxc1 26.Nxf8 Rxf8 27.Bc6 Nc5 28.Rh3 Bd2 29.d7 Ba5 30.Re3 Rf6 31.Re8+ Kg7 32.Bf3 Nxd7 33.Re7+ Rf7 34.h6+ Kf8 35.Rxf7+ Kxf7 36.Be4 Bd2 37.Bxh7 Bxh6 38.g3 a5 39.f4 Nc5 40.Ke2 Bg7 41.Bd3 Nxd3 42.Kxd3 Bb2 43.Kc4 Bf6 44.Kb5 Bc3 45.a4 Kf6 46.Ka6 Kf5 47.Kb5 Bb4 48.Ka6 Ke4 49.Kb5 Be1 50.Ka6 Kf5 51.Kb5 Bc3 52.Kc4 Bb4 53.Kb5 Ke4 54.Ka6 1/2-1/2
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