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FCT League 2: EXchess 7.71b x64 is still running ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

the next one is EXchess 7.71b x64.

If you have interest to follow:
http://www.amateurschach.de/ftptrigger/ ... b-x64.html

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Re: FCT League 2: EXchess 7.71b x64 after 100 = +53

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 Version     : 3.02.L1-BT.L2-02
 Time        : July 04th, 2015 - July 08th, 2015
 Performance : EXchess 7.71b x64, 2709 Elo, +53


 Calculated with EloStat 1.3
 Stats after   100,   200 ... games!       Elo   Games  Score  Draws   White Black Points  w/ d/ l
 21. EXchess 7.51b x64                 2656  1.000  40.6%  43.5%   Predesessor
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----  1.000  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    900  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    800  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    700  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    600  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    500  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    400  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    300  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    200  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 15. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2709    100  48.0%  36.0%   27,0  21,0  48,0   30/36/34
  

                                       Points  Score  EloS  Ordo  +   -  Draws
 01. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64         539.0/0955  56.4%  2766  2766  17 16  44.2%
 02. Quazar 0.4 x64                533.0/0955  55.8%  2762  2762  16 16  45.9%
 03. DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64          528.5/0955  55.3%  2758  2758  17 17  42.0%
 04. Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64 519.0/0955  54.3%  2752  2751  16 16  45.7%
 05. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64       517.0/0955  54.1%  2750  2750  17 17  40.2%
 06. Alfil 15.04 C# Beta 24 x64    516.5/0955  54.1%  2750  2750  18 18  36.8%
 07. Fizbo 1.3.1 x64               508.5/0955  53.2%  2745  2744  16 16  45.5%
 08. Cheng4 0.38 x64               506.0/0955  53.0%  2743  2742  16 16  46.1%
 09. Spark 1.0 x64                 499.5/0955  52.3%  2738  2738  16 16  45.3%
 10. Thinker 5.4d Inert x64        487.0/0955  51.0%  2730  2729  16 16  45.4%
 11. Zappa Mexico II x64           485.5/0955  50.8%  2729  2728  16 16  44.1%
 12. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64           470.5/0955  49.3%  2718  2717  16 16  44.5%
 13. Atlas 3.80 x64                467.5/0955  49.0%  2716  2715  16 16  47.0%
 14. Arasan 17.5 POP x64           462.0/0955  48.4%  2712  2711  16 16  44.8%
 15. EXchess 7.71b x64              48.0/0100  48.0%  2709  2708  55 55  36.0%
 16. MinkoChess 1.3 JA POP x64     452.5/0955  47.4%  2706  2704  16 16  45.3%
 17. Murka 3 x64                   428.0/0955  44.8%  2689  2687  16 16  50.3%
 18. Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64        427.0/0955  44.7%  2688  2686  16 16  45.9%
 19. Rodent 1.7 Build 1 POP x64    419.0/0955  43.9%  2682  2680  17 17  41.5%
 20. Pedone 1.1 BMI2 x64           394.5/0955  41.3%  2665  2662  16 16  47.2%
 21. DisasterArea 1.54 x64         391.5/0955  41.0%  2663  2660  16 16  47.2%
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Re: Note: I made a mistake with EXchess 7.51b x64 ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

yesterday in the evening I saw that I not changed the "search.par" configuation file for EXchess 7.51b x64. In my test for EXchess 7.31b x64 all is right, here I changed the "search.par" file.

2.050 games played without endgame databases and 256Mb for Hash only (normaly I config for each engine 512Mb for Hash).

I am to old for testing engines ...

In my current test-run EXchess 7.71b x64 have endgame databases and 512Mb for Hash.
Sorry to the programmer!

So the final result will be around 10-15 better ...
Programmer gave the Information around +20 and +15 (my mistake) ... EXchess 7.71b x64 should be around 35 Elo stronger as the predecessor in my rating list.

Best
Frank

PS: Information added in the "Download games by players" selection. On the end of the page I collected bugs. In this case a bug by myself.
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Re: FCT League 2: EXchess 7.71b x64 after 400 = +53

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 Version     : 3.02.L1-BT.L2-02
 Time        : July 04th, 2015 - July 08th, 2015
 Performance : EXchess 7.71b x64,   2709 Elo, +53


 Calculated with EloStat 1.3
 Stats after   100,   200 ... games!   Elo   Games  Score  Draws   White Black Points  w/ d/ l
 21. EXchess 7.51b x64                 2656  1.000  40.6%  43.5%   Predesessor
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----  1.000  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    900  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    800  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    700  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    600  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    500  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 15. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2709    400  47.9%  43.2%   28,0  18,0  46,0   23/46/31
 14. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2713    300  48.5%  42.3%   23,5  20,0  43,5   19/49/32
 11. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2730    200  51.0%  39.0%   30,0  24,0  54,0   33/42/25
 15. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2709    100  48.0%  36.0%   27,0  21,0  48,0   30/36/34
  

                                       Points  Score  EloS  Ordo  +   -  Draws
 01. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64         548.0/0970  56.5%  2766  2766  16 16  44.1%
 02. Quazar 0.4 x64                540.5/0970  55.7%  2761  2761  16 16  46.3%
 03. DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64          535.0/0970  55.2%  2757  2757  17 17  42.1%
 04. Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64 527.5/0970  54.4%  2752  2752  16 16  45.7%
 05. Alfil 15.04 C# Beta 24 x64    525.5/0970  54.2%  2751  2750  17 17  36.4%
 06. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64       525.0/0970  54.1%  2750  2750  17 17  40.4%
 07. Fizbo 1.3.1 x64               516.0/0970  53.2%  2744  2744  16 16  45.6%
 08. Cheng4 0.38 x64               514.0/0970  53.0%  2743  2742  16 16  46.2%
 09. Spark 1.0 x64                 506.0/0970  52.2%  2737  2737  16 16  45.4%
 10. Thinker 5.4d Inert x64        497.0/0970  51.2%  2731  2730  16 16  45.2%
 11. Zappa Mexico II x64           493.0/0970  50.8%  2729  2728  16 16  44.3%
 12. Atlas 3.80 x64                478.0/0970  49.3%  2718  2717  16 16  46.8%
 13. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64           477.5/0970  49.2%  2718  2717  16 16  44.4%
 14. Arasan 17.5 POP x64           470.5/0970  48.5%  2713  2712  16 16  44.8%
 15. EXchess 7.71b x64             191.5/0400  47.9%  2709  2707  26 26  43.2%
 16. MinkoChess 1.3 JA POP x64     458.5/0970  47.3%  2705  2703  16 16  45.7%
 17. Murka 3 x64                   437.5/0970  45.1%  2691  2689  15 16  49.8%
 18. Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64        433.0/0970  44.6%  2687  2685  16 16  45.8%
 19. Rodent 1.7 Build 1 POP x64    426.0/0970  43.9%  2683  2681  17 17  41.6%
 20. Pedone 1.1 BMI2 x64           400.5/0970  41.3%  2665  2662  16 16  47.5%
 21. DisasterArea 1.54 x64         399.5/0970  41.2%  2664  2662  16 16  47.1%
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Re: FCT League 2: EXchess 7.71b x64 after 800 = +65

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 Version     : 3.02.L1-BT.L2-02
 Time        : July 04th, 2015 - July 08th, 2015
 Performance : EXchess 7.71b x64,   2721 Elo, +65


 Calculated with EloStat 1.3
 Stats after   100,   200 ... games!   Elo   Games  Score  Draws   White Black Points  w/ d/ l
 21. EXchess 7.51b x64                 2656  1.000  40.6%  43.5%   Predesessor
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----  1.000  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. EXchess 7.71b x64                 ----    900  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 12. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2721    800  49.6%  45.0%   29,0  20,5  49,5   23/53/24
 12. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2721    700  49.6%  43.9%   22,5  25,0  47,5   23/49/28
 12. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2724    600  50.0%  43.0%   30,0  23,5  53,5   32/43/25
 12. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2718    500  49.3%  43.0%   29,5  25,5  55,0   34/42/24
 15. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2709    400  47.9%  43.2%   28,0  18,0  46,0   23/46/31
 14. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2713    300  48.5%  42.3%   23,5  20,0  43,5   19/49/32
 11. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2730    200  51.0%  39.0%   30,0  24,0  54,0   33/42/25
 15. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2709    100  48.0%  36.0%   27,0  21,0  48,0   30/36/34
  

                                       Points  Score  EloS  Ordo  +   -  Draws
 01. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64         561.0/0990  56.7%  2767  2767  16 16  44.4%
 02. Quazar 0.4 x64                553.0/0990  55.9%  2762  2762  16 16  46.5%
 03. DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64          544.5/0990  55.0%  2756  2756  17 16  42.1%
 04. Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64 537.0/0990  54.2%  2751  2751  16 16  45.9%
 05. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64       536.0/0990  54.1%  2750  2750  17 17  40.4%
 05. Alfil 15.04 C# Beta 24 x64    536.0/0990  54.1%  2750  2750  17 17  36.2%
 07. Fizbo 1.3.1 x64               526.5/0990  53.2%  2744  2743  16 16  45.8%
 08. Cheng4 0.38 x64               524.0/0990  52.9%  2742  2742  16 16  46.3%
 09. Spark 1.0 x64                 513.5/0990  51.9%  2735  2735  16 16  45.4%
 10. Thinker 5.4d Inert x64        508.0/0990  51.3%  2732  2731  16 16  45.1%
 11. Zappa Mexico II x64           503.0/0990  50.8%  2728  2727  16 16  44.6%
 12. EXchess 7.71b x64             397.0/0800  49.6%  2721  2719  18 18  45.0%
 13. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64           486.5/0990  49.1%  2717  2716  16 16  44.1%
 14. Atlas 3.80 x64                485.5/0990  49.0%  2717  2715  16 16  46.8%
 15. Arasan 17.5 POP x64           480.0/0990  48.5%  2713  2712  16 16  45.1%
 16. MinkoChess 1.3 JA POP x64     465.0/0990  47.0%  2703  2701  16 16  45.9%
 17. Murka 3 x64                   448.5/0990  45.3%  2692  2690  15 15  49.6%
 18. Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64        444.0/0990  44.8%  2689  2687  16 16  45.7%
 19. Rodent 1.7 Build 1 POP x64    434.5/0990  43.9%  2682  2680  16 17  42.1%
 20. DisasterArea 1.54 x64         408.5/0990  41.3%  2665  2662  16 16  46.8%
 21. Pedone 1.1 BMI2 x64           408.0/0990  41.2%  2664  2662  16 16  47.5%
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Re: FCT League 2: EXchess 7.71b x64 final = +64

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

here are the final results:
Stats to middlegame, Transposition into endgame and endgame will be follow later ... enough chess for today for myself ...

EXchess 7.71b x64 test-run:
http://www.amateurschach.de/ftptrigger/ ... b-x64.html

Or if you like more the tournament table from FCT League 2:
http://www.amateurschach.de/ftptrigger/fct-l2.html

Download games by Players:

http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_sgbp.htm

Or if you like to download the complete FCP database ...
http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_download.htm

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 Version     : 3.02.L1-BT.L2-02
 Time        : July 04th, 2015 - July 08th, 2015
 Performance : EXchess 7.71b x64,   2720 Elo, +64


 Calculated with EloStat 1.3
 Stats after   100,   200 ... games!   Elo   Games  Score  Draws   White Black Points  w/ d/ l
 21. EXchess 7.51b x64                 2656  1.000  40.6%  43.5%   Predesessor
 12. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2720  1.000  49.5%  45.8%   27,0  21,5  48,5   23/51/26
 12. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2720    900  49.6%  45.2%   27,5  22,0  49,5   26/47/27
 12. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2721    800  49.6%  45.0%   29,0  20,5  49,5   23/53/24
 12. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2721    700  49.6%  43.9%   22,5  25,0  47,5   23/49/28
 12. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2724    600  50.0%  43.0%   30,0  23,5  53,5   32/43/25
 12. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2718    500  49.3%  43.0%   29,5  25,5  55,0   34/42/24
 15. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2709    400  47.9%  43.2%   28,0  18,0  46,0   23/46/31
 14. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2713    300  48.5%  42.3%   23,5  20,0  43,5   19/49/32
 11. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2730    200  51.0%  39.0%   30,0  24,0  54,0   33/42/25
 15. EXchess 7.71b x64                 2709    100  48.0%  36.0%   27,0  21,0  48,0   30/36/34
  

                                       Points  Score  EloS  Ordo  +   -  Draws
 01. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64         566.0/1000  56.6%  2767  2768  16 16  44.8%
 02. Quazar 0.4 x64                558.0/1000  55.8%  2762  2762  16 16  46.2%
 03. DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64          550.0/1000  55.0%  2756  2756  16 16  42.0%
 04. Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64 542.0/1000  54.2%  2751  2751  16 16  46.0%
 05. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64       540.5/1000  54.0%  2750  2750  17 17  40.5%
 05. Alfil 15.04 C# Beta 24 x64    540.5/1000  54.0%  2750  2750  17 17  36.3%
 07. Fizbo 1.3.1 x64               531.5/1000  53.1%  2744  2744  16 16  45.9%
 08. Cheng4 0.38 x64               529.5/1000  52.9%  2743  2742  16 16  46.3%
 09. Spark 1.0 x64                 520.0/1000  52.0%  2736  2736  16 16  45.2%
 10. Thinker 5.4d Inert x64        513.5/1000  51.3%  2732  2732  16 16  45.3%
 11. Zappa Mexico II x64           510.0/1000  51.0%  2730  2729  16 16  44.6%
 12. EXchess 7.71b x64             495.0/1000  49.5%  2720  2719  16 16  45.8%
 13. Atlas 3.80 x64                492.0/1000  49.2%  2718  2717  16 16  47.0%
 14. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64           490.5/1000  49.0%  2717  2716  16 16  44.3%
 15. Arasan 17.5 POP x64           485.5/1000  48.5%  2713  2713  16 16  44.9%
 16. MinkoChess 1.3 JA POP x64     470.5/1000  47.0%  2703  2702  16 16  46.1%
 17. Murka 3 x64                   451.5/1000  45.1%  2691  2689  15 15  49.5%
 18. Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64        447.5/1000  44.8%  2688  2687  16 16  45.7%
 19. Rodent 1.7 Build 1 POP x64    440.0/1000  44.0%  2683  2682  16 16  42.2%
 20. DisasterArea 1.54 x64         413.5/1000  41.3%  2665  2663  16 16  46.7%
 21. Pedone 1.1 BMI2 x64           412.5/1000  41.2%  2665  2662  16 16  47.3%
Best
Frank
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Re: FCT League 2: EXchess 7.71b x64 final = +64

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I really like some of the interesting things Dan Homan is doing with his engine. His SMP ideas were especially fresh.
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Re: FCT League 2: EXchess 7.71b x64 ... statistics

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

here are the EXchess 7.71b x64 statistics:
http://www.amateurschach.de/main/fcp-le ... 302-02.htm

Not easy to compare with EXchess 7.51b x64 after the mistake in my configuration I wrote before.

But clearly to see are the improvments in late middlegame / transposition into endgame and endgame.

Have fun with my choas page!

Best
Frank
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Re: To EXchess ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Dann,

from my view ...

EXchess was one of the first available Winboard engines and one of the main engines in the first available Rating list for Winboard engines I created with Kai Skibbe, Christian Koch (helps by Djordje Vidanovic). Only Tim Mann wrote again and again ... Frank, the main idea from Winboard isn't eng-eng matches and you make me a lot of work here

:-)

At this time we are looking each day on the site from Dan Homan (new version available or not, engines for so many people much more important as Fritz and other commercial things). Clearly the programmer of EXchess animated for ... People please ... make your engine compatible to a protocol and we all have much more fun in testing.

It was also the time I started with an internet connection ...
Must drive a long way to a friend for download new Crafty, TheCrazy Bishop, Tristram and SSEChess versions (the first available WB engines) ... At this time my friend have a modem and AOL and I a lot of disk ...

:-)

Tristram, SSEChess, EXchess, TheCrazy Bishop, Comet, Crafty, Zarkov, WBNimzo, Zarkov, Patzer ... we played so nice tournaments.

Nice to see that the good and old EXchess have a place in TOP-50 of available engines today!!

And the playing style from EXchess is very interesting ...
I am often surprised about tactical combination after the opening book moves. Today EXchess is very solid in all playing phases.

You are the expert in programming.
I can't see ideas in SMP ... never I used SMP.
For testing chess engines is SMP not important.
SMP factor I can test with 5 test-postion ... no games for find out SMP factor are necessary.

Also for analysing and the work on my opening book ...
I am using 4 engines with 1 core ... runs to the same time ... much more interesting for myself as to start one engines with 4 cores (totaly boring).

But SMP is nice for get the full engine power for analyze positions, for official computer chess games, games on server on fast hardware. But on all this I have no interest.

I think we lost to many time in testing engines with SMP support. Again, for hardcore testing ... SMP isn't important for me ... it's only a feature, not more not less.

Regards to you ... very nice that you are back, available for us !!!

Best
Frank

Crafty and EXchess are the "Dinosaur".
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Re: To EXchess ...

Post by dchoman »

Hi Frank,

Thanks for these kind words! EXchess has been a fun hobby for me, on and off over the years, and I am glad that other people have enjoyed it too!

- Dan