The Champions 2012 8CPU

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Graham Banks
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Re: Round 22

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lech wrote:Sting - Hiarcs 21 round.
In this position Sting plays 62. d4 with eval +8,44 :shock:
[d] 8/6k1/8/4b2P/8/3PKB2/8/8 w - - 0 62
Sorry, but it is not Sting SF 2. :?
I can assure you that it is indeed Sting SF 2.

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kranium
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Re: Round 22

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lech wrote:Sting - Hiarcs 21 round.
In this position Sting plays 62. d4 with eval +8,44 :shock:
[d] 8/6k1/8/4b2P/8/3PKB2/8/8 w - - 0 62
Sorry, but it is not Sting SF 2. :?
Xeon X5430x2 Octal
ChessGUI
2048mb hash per engine where possible
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
WorldClass2012-3.cgb book (limited to 8 move depth)
40 moves in 29 minutes repeating (equivalent to CCRL 40/40)
All engines 64-bit 8CPU where available
4 cycles 52 rounds
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lech
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Re: Round 22

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I try to imagine what should happen that engine which knows that it is draw,
[d] 8/6k1/8/7P/8/4KB2/8/8 w - - 0 62
by a few moves (!), shows gain. :?
A strange case (bug?).
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Re: Round 22

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lech wrote:I try to imagine what should happen that engine which knows that it is draw,
[d] 8/6k1/8/7P/8/4KB2/8/8 w - - 0 62
by a few moves (!), shows gain. :?
A strange case (bug?).
well, i thought it might have to do with tablebase probe scores being returned by the GUI, but that appears to not be the case
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Round 23

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THE CHAMPIONS 2012 8CPU

Xeon X5430x2 Octal
ChessGUI
2048mb hash per engine where possible
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
WorldClass2012-3.cgb book (limited to 8 move depth)
40 moves in 29 minutes repeating (equivalent to CCRL 40/40)
All engines 64-bit 8CPU where available
4 cycles 52 rounds


Round 23

Hannibal 20121202 64-bit 8CPU v Hiarcs 14 8CPU (0-1)
RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU v Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Akkad 0.52b 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU v Houdini 3 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Equinox 1.65 64-bit 8CPU v Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU v Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU (draw)


Standings after Round 23

19.0 - Houdini 3 64-bit 8CPU
14.0 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU
14.0 - Equinox 1.65 64-bit 8CPU
13.0 - Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU
13.0 - Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU
12.5 - Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU
12.0 - Hiarcs 14 8CPU
11.5 - RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU
11.5 - Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU
10.0 - Akkad 0.52b 64-bit 8CPU
9.5 - Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU
7.5 - Hannibal 20121202 64-bit 8CPU
7.0 - Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU
6.5 - Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU


Round 23 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=28239

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16083

There is also a live broadcast in Playchess.
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Round 24

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THE CHAMPIONS 2012 8CPU

Xeon X5430x2 Octal
ChessGUI
2048mb hash per engine where possible
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
WorldClass2012-3.cgb book (limited to 8 move depth)
40 moves in 29 minutes repeating (equivalent to CCRL 40/40)
All engines 64-bit 8CPU where available
4 cycles 52 rounds


Round 24

Hannibal 20121202 64-bit 8CPU v Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Hiarcs 14 8CPU v Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Akkad 0.52b 64-bit 8CPU v Houdini 3 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU v Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU v Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Equinox 1.65 64-bit 8CPU v Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU (draw)


Standings after Round 24

20.0 - Houdini 3 64-bit 8CPU
14.5 - Equinox 1.65 64-bit 8CPU
14.5 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU
14.0 - Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU
13.0 - Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU
13.0 - Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU
13.0 - Hiarcs 14 8CPU
12.0 - RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU
12.0 - Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU
10.0 - Akkad 0.52b 64-bit 8CPU
9.5 - Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU
8.5 - Hannibal 20121202 64-bit 8CPU
7.0 - Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU
7.0 - Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU


Round 24 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=28243

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16083

There is also a live broadcast in Playchess.
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beram
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Re: Round 24

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After one complete cycle against 13 other top programs, WOW, what an incredible high score for Houdini3 in this 8CPU tournament
21 out of 26 = 80,8%, at normal time control.

Thx Graham for tournament and Robert for Houdini
grts Bram

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RANK   ENGINE                                    GAMES  POINTS   1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10 11 12 13 14 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1.   HOUDINI 3 64-BIT 8CPU                       26    21.0    ** 1= 11 =1 1= 1= 1= 01 =1 1= 11 1= 11 11 
   2.   CRITTER 1.6A 64-BIT 8CPU                    25    15.0    0= ** == == 0= == == 1= 1= =1 == 1= 11 1. 
   3.   STOCKFISH 2.3.1 64-BIT 8CPU                 25    14.5    00 == ** == == =1 1. == 1= == == 1= =1 =1 
   4.   EQUINOX 1.65 64-BIT 8CPU                    25    14.5    =0 == == ** == =0 1= 1= == == =. 1= 11 =1 
   5.   RYBKA 4.1 64-BIT 8CPU                       25    14.0    0= 1= == == ** 0= == =. 11 =0 1= =1 == 1= 
   6.   STING SF 2 64-BIT 8CPU                      25    14.0    0= == =0 =1 1= ** == == =. 11 == == 1= == 
   7.   HIARCS 14 8CPU                              25    13.5    0= == 0. 0= == == ** =0 0= 11 1= 11 11 == 
   8.   ROBBOLITO 0.21Q 64-BIT 8CPU                 25    12.5    10 0= == 0= =. == =1 ** == == == 10 0= 11 
   9.   BOUQUET 1.6 64-BIT 8CPU                     25    12.0    =0 0= 0= == 00 =. 1= == ** == 1= =1 == 1= 
  10.   DEEP JUNIOR 13.3 64-BIT 8CPU                26    11.0    0= =0 == == =1 00 00 == == ** 10 11 == 0= 
  11.   AKKAD 0.52B 64-BIT 8CPU                     25    10.5    00 == == =. 0= == 0= == 0= 01 ** 10 1= == 
  12.   HANNIBAL 20121202 64-BIT 8CPU               26     9.0    0= 0= 0= 0= =0 == 00 01 =0 00 01 ** == 11 
  13.   DEEP SHREDDER 12 64-BIT 8CPU                26     8.0    00 00 =0 00 == 0= 00 1= == == 0= == ** == 
  14.   CHIRON 1.5 64-BIT 8CPU                      25     7.5    00 0. =0 =0 0= == == 00 0= 1= == 00 == ** 

Total games = 177
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Re: Round 24

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So Hiarcs seems to be the strongest from the oldies like Fritz, Shredder, Junior, and obviously also the contemporaries of those times which are not continued at all.
Hiarcs overlaps some of the "clones" too, which is a big achievement, if it itself did not benefit from clone technology, which caused a whole generation to get above Rybka 3, which was a big leap ahead, ever since Rybka 1 came out.
So Hiarcs is clearly stronger than Rybka 3, withOUT clone.

Frankly, I don't really know what all this means, however. But it sounds good.

Even if Hiarcs DOES now take whatever it wants to from Cloneworld, it hides behind the reputation that it does NOT.
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Round 25

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THE CHAMPIONS 2012 8CPU

Xeon X5430x2 Octal
ChessGUI
2048mb hash per engine where possible
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
WorldClass2012-3.cgb book (limited to 8 move depth)
40 moves in 29 minutes repeating (equivalent to CCRL 40/40)
All engines 64-bit 8CPU where available
4 cycles 52 rounds


Round 25

Hannibal 20121202 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Hiarcs 14 8CPU v Houdini 3 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU v Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Akkad 0.52b 64-bit 8CPU v Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU v Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU v Equinox 1.65 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)


Standings after Round 25

20.5 - Houdini 3 64-bit 8CPU
15.0 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU
14.5 - Equinox 1.65 64-bit 8CPU
14.5 - Stockfish 2.3.1 64-bit 8CPU
14.0 - Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU
14.0 - Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU
13.5 - Hiarcs 14 8CPU
12.5 - RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU
12.0 - Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU
10.5 - Akkad 0.52b 64-bit 8CPU
10.5 - Deep Junior 13.3 64-bit 8CPU
8.5 - Hannibal 20121202 64-bit 8CPU
7.5 - Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU
7.5 - Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU


Round 25 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=28250

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16083

There is also a live broadcast in Playchess.
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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kranium
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Re: Round 24

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S.Taylor wrote:So Hiarcs seems to be the strongest from the oldies like Fritz, Shredder, Junior, and obviously also the contemporaries of those times which are not continued at all.
Hiarcs overlaps some of the "clones" too, which is a big achievement, if it itself did not benefit from clone technology, which caused a whole generation to get above Rybka 3, which was a big leap ahead, ever since Rybka 1 came out.
So Hiarcs is clearly stronger than Rybka 3, withOUT clone.

Frankly, I don't really know what all this means, however. But it sounds good.

Even if Hiarcs DOES now take whatever it wants to from Cloneworld, it hides behind the reputation that it does NOT.
to draw such broad conclusions after so few games is naive to say the least...
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