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Stockfish vs Houdini - Long TC Match - LIVE BROADCAST!

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:52 am
by Martin Thoresen
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Stockfish 1.8 64-bit 4CPU vs Houdini 1.03a 64-bit 4CPU
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Starts Thursday -July 22nd- @ 12:00 CEST
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Information

Time Control:
120 Minutes For The First 40 Moves
60 Minutes For The Next 20 Moves
15 Minutes For The Rest
30 Seconds Added Per Move From Move 61

Graphical User Interface:
Type: Chessbase 12
Tablebases: n/a
Hash: 2048 MB
Resign: "Late"
Draw: "Late"
Ponder: Off

Misc:
Openings: Magnus_Carlsen_2005-2010.pgn
CPU: Intel Core i7 920 @ 4050 MHz
OS: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Match Length: 32 Games
Executable: Stockfish
Executable: Houdini

Live Broadcast

Click Here - Updated Each ~3 Minutes

A full PGN will be available after the match has ended,
meanwhile you can view the games in the PGN-viewer on the
website as the match progresses.

Chessbomb.com might also relay the match, check in at http://chessbomb.com.
Note: Don't pay too much attention to their computer analysis since it's running multi-pv and on slower hardware.

Previous Matches:
Rybka 4 64-bit 4CPU vs Stockfish 1.8 64-bit 4CPU
Rybka 4 64-bit 4CPU vs Houdini 1.02 64-bit 4CPU

Public Interest:
http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2010/07 ... -4cpu.html
http://thechessmind.net/blog/2010/7/10/ ... sh-18.html
http://vlasak.biz/evcnews.htm
http://gambit.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07 ... ng-rights/
http://www.giocareascacchi.it/articoli/ ... Rybka.html
http://www.chessblog.com/2010/07/chess- ... ersus.html
http://chessexpress.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... kfish.html
http://baloghcsaba.com/news.php

Re: Stockfish vs Houdini - Long TC Match - LIVE BROADCAST!

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:16 am
by LucenaTheLucid
Fantastic work...keep this going!

Re: Stockfish vs Houdini - Long TC Match - LIVE BROADCAST!

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:53 am
by Dann Corbit
Considering the beatdown that Stockfish 1.8 is having, I suspect that something is wrong with your configuration. Have you verified (for instance) that Stockfish is using all the threads you want it to use?

The reason I suspect a setup snag is the following:
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_40%2 ... liste.html

Re: Stockfish vs Houdini - Long TC Match - LIVE BROADCAST!

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:59 am
by LucenaTheLucid
Hi Dann,

How likely is it just statistical mumbo jumbo?

Re: Stockfish vs Houdini - Long TC Match - LIVE BROADCAST!

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:09 am
by Dann Corbit
LucenaTheLucid wrote:Hi Dann,

How likely is it just statistical mumbo jumbo?
I have no idea. It's worth a quick check, though. Wouldn't take 2 minutes.

Re: Stockfish vs Houdini - Long TC Match - LIVE BROADCAST!

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:52 pm
by Martin Thoresen
Dann Corbit wrote:Considering the beatdown that Stockfish 1.8 is having, I suspect that something is wrong with your configuration. Have you verified (for instance) that Stockfish is using all the threads you want it to use?

The reason I suspect a setup snag is the following:
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_40%2 ... liste.html
Of course it is using all 4 threads.

This is an automated match. Which means I click "Ok" then game 1 starts, and the match is not stopping until game 48 is finished.

So how can the configuration suddenly be wrong when it seemed all fine and dandy in the first half of the match?

Btw, you can verify the nps and depth by just looking at the PGN on the website. This is from game 41:

Martin
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz 4050 MHz W=34.6 plies; 8 963kN/s B=23.6 plies; 558kN/s; 62 324 TBAs
W being Stockfish, and B being Rybka.

Best Regards,

Re: Stockfish vs Houdini - Long TC Match - LIVE BROADCAST!

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:19 pm
by govert
Dann Corbit wrote:Considering the beatdown that Stockfish 1.8 is having, I suspect that something is wrong with your configuration. Have you verified (for instance) that Stockfish is using all the threads you want it to use?

The reason I suspect a setup snag is the following:
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_40%2 ... liste.html
Anyone knows what kind of opening book CEGT uses? Since Martin's tournament is almost a "bookless" tournament maybe that has something to do with it.
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Re: Stockfish vs Houdini - Long TC Match - LIVE BROADCAST!

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:57 pm
by Paloma
Hi Martin,
this morning i saw the broadcast and it stands 26-16 in favour of rybka.

another user noticed it here: http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... #pid269745

> ... (At the time of writing, Rybka 4 is leading 26-16) ...

Now (a few hours later) i see it's stands 25-16 ?? What happend ?

Re: Stockfish vs Houdini - Long TC Match - LIVE BROADCAST!

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:56 pm
by IGarcia
Paloma wrote:Hi Martin,
this morning i saw the broadcast and it stands 26-16 in favour of rybka.

another user noticed it here: http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... #pid269745

> ... (At the time of writing, Rybka 4 is leading 26-16) ...

Now (a few hours later) i see it's stands 25-16 ?? What happend ?

Its explained in main match thread.

When match was 25-16 Stockfish crashed in game 42 (and Rybka won for a 26-16). That game was restarted, and become a draw.

Still I think SF was in disadvantage in that game before crash. But i have no pgn game. Was lost in a reload.

Re: Stockfish vs Houdini - Long TC Match - LIVE BROADCAST!

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:05 pm
by pacifist
I copied the moves but don't know how to convert in pgn. Only chance to draw is to build a fortress but it can certainly not be forced so white is winning normally.

Here are the moves :

(210) Rybka 4 x64 4CPU - Stockfish 1.8 x64 4CPU [B31]
Match 2 (42.1), 19.07.2010
[0.22;0.40]

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz 4050 MHz W=21.6 plies; 453kN/s; 129 TBAs B=31.5 plies; 7 261kN/s 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 g6 4.0-0 0.22/23 6:22 Bg7 0.40/31 4:22 5.Nc3 (c3) 0.22/22 4:32 5...Nf6 (e5) 0.32/33 5:38 6.e5 0.15/22 9:35 Ng4 0.40/33 3:41 7.Bxc6 0.14/23 3:56 dxc6 0.40/33 7:38 8.Re1 0.14/22 4:18 0-0 0.20/32 4:15 9.d3 0.12/22 4:18 Nh6 0.36/33 3:18 10.a4 (Ne4) 0.14/21 3:58 10...Bg4 0.20/33 4:27 11.Bxh6 0.12/22 3:31 Bxh6 0.24/31 2:48 12.Re4 (h3) 0.14/22 2:14 12...Bf5 0.20/31 5:56 13.Rh4 0.14/22 2:51 Bg7 0.00/33 2:58 14.Qd2 (Qc1) 0.14/22 2:58 14...Qa5 (a5) 0.00/34 2:27 15.h3 (Qe3) 0.10/21 4:05 15...Rfd8 (b6) 0.00/32 2:23 16.Qe3 (Re1) 0.16/20 2:24 16...b6 0.00/33 3:30 17.Ne4 (Re1) 0.22/19 1:01 17...Rd5 (Rac8) 0.00/32 7:42 18.Ng3 (Ned2) 0.39/19 1:42 18...Bc8 0.64/29 3:53 19.Qg5 0.43/20 1:25 Bd7 (f6) 0.68/28 2:20 20.Qxe7 0.47/19 3:09 Re8 0.56/29 1:54 21.Qg5 0.39/21 48 f6 0.76/28 1:46 22.Qc1 (Qe3) 0.50/21 5:27 22...fxe5 (f5) 1.05/29 2:40 23.Ng5 0.73/20 1:49 h5 1.05/29 1:56 24.Nf3 0.72/20 2:47 Be6 1.21/30 1:53 25.Ne4 (Re4) 0.92/21 2:28 25...Rf8 1.01/29 1:50 26.Qg5 (Neg5) 1.22/20 3:07 26...Bf5 1.17/30 2:42 27.Nfd2 (Qe3) 1.79/17 40 27...Qb4 2.14/29 1:49 28.Nc4 (b3) 2.29/17 35 28...Kh7 2.94/27 1:56 29.Qc1 (c3) 2.29/19 29 29...Bxe4 (Rd4) 3.75/32 2:57 30.Rxe4 2.56/20 58 Rd4 3.83/36 2:32 31.c3 2.65/23 1:12 Qxc4 4.08/33 1:55 32.dxc4 2.65/23 42 Rxe4 4.12/29 7 33.Qc2 2.72/23 1:04 Ref4 4.16/34 2:17 34.Rd1 2.77/24 3:00 e4 (R8f6) 3.87/33 6:51 35.Rd6 2.91/25 8:10 R8f5 (Re8) 4.20/31 2:28 36.Re6 (Qe2) 3.38/23 3:55 36...Bh6 4.72/31 3:56 37.Rxe4 3.49/24 2:07 Kg7 (Rf7) 4.68/34 2:01 38.Rxf4 3.51/25 5:05 Bxf4 5.13/35 2:08 39.g3 4.06/25 1:53 Bg5 (Bb8) 5.53/35 2:16 40.Qe4 (f4) Time 4.28/26 2:43 1-0