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The Clone Tournament
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Here's the final standings of my version of the clone tourney.
"5'+ 5", ponder off, 256MB hash, 56 games start with 1.d4, 56 games start with 1.e4.
1: Rybka 1.0 Beta 18.0/28
2: Glaurung 2.0.1 17.5/28
3: Fruit 2.3.1 14.5/28
4: Toga 3.1.2SE-Chekov 14.5/28
5: Frenzee-Feb08 14.5/28
6: Bright 0.2c 13.0/28
7: Spike 1.2 13.0/28
8: Naum 2.0 7.0/28
Regards
Dave
"5'+ 5", ponder off, 256MB hash, 56 games start with 1.d4, 56 games start with 1.e4.
1: Rybka 1.0 Beta 18.0/28
2: Glaurung 2.0.1 17.5/28
3: Fruit 2.3.1 14.5/28
4: Toga 3.1.2SE-Chekov 14.5/28
5: Frenzee-Feb08 14.5/28
6: Bright 0.2c 13.0/28
7: Spike 1.2 13.0/28
8: Naum 2.0 7.0/28
Regards
Dave
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Thanks for the tourney. Are you going to release the PGN with the games?David Dahlem wrote:1: Rybka 1.0 Beta 18.0/28
2: Glaurung 2.0.1 17.5/28
3: Fruit 2.3.1 14.5/28
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Yes, you can get the pgn here ...Ovyron wrote:Thanks for the tourney. Are you going to release the PGN with the games?David Dahlem wrote:1: Rybka 1.0 Beta 18.0/28
2: Glaurung 2.0.1 17.5/28
3: Fruit 2.3.1 14.5/28
http://www.geocities.com/davedahlem/Clone_Tourney.zip
Fruit lost one game on time, 161 moves, but i think it was lost anyway.
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Dave
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Thanks for running the tournament Dave!
I like the result of Glaurung 2.01 here, it did very well in second place. I think sometimes this Glaurung is running better on Intel processors than on Athlons... It is a fact I think it does very well on the Core 2 Duo from Intel that is also in Tord's development Mac. Was Rybka playing with the 64-bits version in your tourney?
Regards, Eelco
I like the result of Glaurung 2.01 here, it did very well in second place. I think sometimes this Glaurung is running better on Intel processors than on Athlons... It is a fact I think it does very well on the Core 2 Duo from Intel that is also in Tord's development Mac. Was Rybka playing with the 64-bits version in your tourney?
Regards, Eelco
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No, 64-bits won't run on my system.Eelco de Groot wrote:Thanks for running the tournament Dave!
I like the result of Glaurung 2.01 here, it did very well in second place. I think sometimes this Glaurung is running better on Intel processors than on Athlons... It is a fact I think it does very well on the Core 2 Duo from Intel that is also in Tord's development Mac. Was Rybka playing with the 64-bits version in your tourney?
Regards, Eelco
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Dave
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Thank you. Some people have been lately only caring about results but I think that chess is about the games (On the second round of my tourney I'm going to force some moves so it will be interesting to compare the games to yours when I force e4 or d4.)David Dahlem wrote:Yes, you can get the pgn here ...
http://www.geocities.com/davedahlem/Clone_Tourney.zip
Fruit lost one game on time, 161 moves, but i think it was lost anyway.
Rybka BETA lost on time also on my tourney (against Naum), but that result will not count as it happened with a tablebase win for Rybka (if I had the 6 men tablebases Rybka would have not lost so it's unfair to score a loss) a win was adjudicated.
Also, I think I'm going to have the halfway results of my tourney ready today (Even when the games are short, the very few CPU time I have is getting in the way, that's why they're played at these very fast time controls.)
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I agree, chess is about the games, not about opening books or tablebases. I like to watch the games live, whenever possible. My time is limited, so it's rather difficult.Ovyron wrote:Thank you. Some people have been lately only caring about results but I think that chess is about the games (On the second round of my tourney I'm going to force some moves so it will be interesting to compare the games to yours when I force e4 or d4.)David Dahlem wrote:Yes, you can get the pgn here ...
http://www.geocities.com/davedahlem/Clone_Tourney.zip
Fruit lost one game on time, 161 moves, but i think it was lost anyway.
Rybka BETA lost on time also on my tourney (against Naum), but that result will not count as it happened with a tablebase win for Rybka (if I had the 6 men tablebases Rybka would have not lost so it's unfair to score a loss) a win was adjudicated.
Also, I think I'm going to have the halfway results of my tourney ready today (Even when the games are short, the very few CPU time I have is getting in the way, that's why they're played at these very fast time controls.)
I always check the games for time losses, and adjucate when necessary.
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Dave
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Sorry, I meant tableblase draw (A draw was adjudicated)Ovyron wrote:Rybka BETA lost on time also on my tourney (against Naum), but that result will not count as it happened with a tablebase win for Rybka (if I had the 6 men tablebases Rybka would have not lost so it's unfair to score a loss) a win was adjudicated.
Meanwhile, here is the midway crosstable:
Note that I score draws as 0.45 to penalize the drawing engines (1 win is 0.1 better than two draws.)
10 means "Won with white, lost with black" etc.
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1 TogaC .... 10 11 =1 10 0= 1= 11 9.35/14 (66.79%)
2 Glaur 10 .... 11 10 10 == 11 01 8.90/14 (63.57%)
3 Rybka 00 00 .... 1= =1 =1 =1 11 7.80/14 (55.71%)
4 Fruit 0= 10 =1 .... 10 11 10 0= 7.35/14 (52.50%)
5 Brigh 10 10 0= 10 .... 0= 11 1= 7.35/14 (52.50%)
6 Spike =1 == 0= 00 =1 .... 10 =0 5.70/14 (40.71%)
7 Naum2 =0 00 0= 10 00 10 .... 11 4.90/14 (35.00%)
8 Frenz 00 01 00 =1 =0 1= 00 .... 4.35/14 (31.07%)
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Rank Name Elo + - games score oppo. draws
1 Toga II 3.1.2SE Chekov 2842 139 126 14 68% 2737 21%
2 Glaurung 2.0.1 2828 140 130 14 64% 2739 14%
3 Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit 2780 127 123 14 57% 2746 29%
4 bright-0.2c 2768 130 128 14 54% 2747 21%
5 Fruit 2.3.1 2734 128 131 14 46% 2752 21%
6 Spike 1.2 Turin 2720 121 124 14 43% 2754 43%
7 Naum 2.0 2677 128 139 14 36% 2760 14%
8 Frenzee feb08 2652 126 139 14 32% 2764 21%
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