Speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
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Speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
Does anyone have any news about the speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
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Re: Speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
Pathetic is the answer you are looking for. Unless your GPU is GTX 1030 or something from an early last decade. Than CPU performance might be in the same order of magnitude (but still slower).Javier Ros wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:30 am Does anyone have any news about the speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
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Re: Speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
Is that because they dont have tensor cores? I've seen claims that it should compete with a 3070, i.e. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-3 ... l-xe-512euMilos wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:36 pmPathetic is the answer you are looking for. Unless your GPU is GTX 1030 or something from an early last decade. Than CPU performance might be in the same order of magnitude (but still slower).Javier Ros wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:30 am Does anyone have any news about the speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
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Re: Speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
I think he's talking about the Intel GPUs that are currently available.MMarco wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:00 pmIs that because they dont have tensor cores? I've seen claims that it should compete with a 3070, i.e. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-3 ... l-xe-512euMilos wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:36 pmPathetic is the answer you are looking for. Unless your GPU is GTX 1030 or something from an early last decade. Than CPU performance might be in the same order of magnitude (but still slower).Javier Ros wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:30 am Does anyone have any news about the speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
Which are the integrated ones, and they're fairly crap. (Compared to everything past a gtx1050)
We don't know how good the discrete Intel GPUs will be, but if AMD is anything to go by. They will perform markedly worse for Lc0.
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Re: Speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
Yes that's one reason, another one is because there is no support like CUDA/cudnn that exists for NVIDIA cards that provides great speedup.MMarco wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:00 pmIs that because they dont have tensor cores? I've seen claims that it should compete with a 3070, i.e. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-3 ... l-xe-512euMilos wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:36 pmPathetic is the answer you are looking for. Unless your GPU is GTX 1030 or something from an early last decade. Than CPU performance might be in the same order of magnitude (but still slower).Javier Ros wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:30 am Does anyone have any news about the speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
Even top of the line AMDs RX 6900xt that has great rendering performance is significantly worse compared to basic RTX card like 2060S when running Lc0.
And I don't see even those rumored Intel DG2 being close to like RX 6900xt, let alone compared to 30xx series.
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Re: Speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
Oh I see. Then I'm also curious about what the igpu can do too.Raphexon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:11 pmI think he's talking about the Intel GPUs that are currently available.MMarco wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:00 pmIs that because they dont have tensor cores? I've seen claims that it should compete with a 3070, i.e. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-3 ... l-xe-512euMilos wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:36 pmPathetic is the answer you are looking for. Unless your GPU is GTX 1030 or something from an early last decade. Than CPU performance might be in the same order of magnitude (but still slower).Javier Ros wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:30 am Does anyone have any news about the speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
Which are the integrated ones, and they're fairly crap. (Compared to everything past a gtx1050)
We don't know how good the discrete Intel GPUs will be, but if AMD is anything to go by. They will perform markedly worse for Lc0.
Last year I tested a bit the Vega 10 on my 3750H laptop. I was able to get 5000 knps with dx12 and a 10b net if I remember correctly. But the big 30b nets were really slow - like 300 nps (or even less?). At blitz time control (say 1 sec per move) the 10b were stronger than 20x256 or 30x384.
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Re: Speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
OK. Thanks for explaining!Yes that's one reason, another one is because there is no support like CUDA/cudnn that exists for NVIDIA cards that provides great speedup.
Even top of the line AMDs RX 6900xt that has great rendering performance is significantly worse compared to basic RTX card like 2060S when running Lc0.
And I don't see even those rumored Intel DG2 being close to like RX 6900xt, let alone compared to 30xx series.
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Re: Speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
Thank youMilos wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:45 pmYes that's one reason, another one is because there is no support like CUDA/cudnn that exists for NVIDIA cards that provides great speedup.MMarco wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:00 pmIs that because they dont have tensor cores? I've seen claims that it should compete with a 3070, i.e. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-3 ... l-xe-512euMilos wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:36 pmPathetic is the answer you are looking for. Unless your GPU is GTX 1030 or something from an early last decade. Than CPU performance might be in the same order of magnitude (but still slower).Javier Ros wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:30 am Does anyone have any news about the speed of Lc0 in the new Intel GPU's?
Even top of the line AMDs RX 6900xt that has great rendering performance is significantly worse compared to basic RTX card like 2060S when running Lc0.
And I don't see even those rumored Intel DG2 being close to like RX 6900xt, let alone compared to 30xx series.