Which version of Ethereal should I use for inter i7 ?

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Which version of Ethereal should I use for inter i7 ?

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Which version of Ethereal should I use for my intel i7 4770 3.40GHz ( Ethereal12.75-x64-pext-avx2.exe OR Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2.exe)
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Re: Which version of Ethereal should I use for inter i7 ?

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Use the one that is fastest on your machine.
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Re: Which version of Ethereal should I use for inter i7 ?

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Modern Times wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:18 am Use the one that is fastest on your machine.
Intel i7 4770 3.49GHz Time Control "40/300"

Score of Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 vs igel-x64_bmi2_avx2_3_0_0: 0 - 11 - 9 [0.225]
... Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 playing White: 0 - 3 - 7 [0.350] 10
... Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 playing Black: 0 - 8 - 2 [0.100] 10
... White vs Black: 8 - 3 - 9 [0.625] 20
Elo difference: -214.8 +/- 116.3, LOS: 0.0 %, DrawRatio: 45.0 %
20 of 20 games finished.

I am currently running the Ethereal12.75-x64-pext-avx2.exe Version against igel-x64_bmi2_avx2_3_0_0 And so far I do NOT notice the difference after 8 games, I will post the final result after 20 games are finished.

Score of Ethereal12.75-x64-pext-avx2 vs igel-x64_bmi2_avx2_3_0_0: 0 - 4 - 4 [0.250]
... Ethereal12.75-x64-pext-avx2 playing White: 0 - 1 - 3 [0.375] 4
... Ethereal12.75-x64-pext-avx2 playing Black: 0 - 3 - 1 [0.125] 4
... White vs Black: 3 - 1 - 4 [0.625] 8
Elo difference: -190.8 +/- 188.8, LOS: 2.3 %, DrawRatio: 50.0 %
8 of 20 games finished.
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Re: Which version of Ethereal should I use for inter i7 ?

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Chessqueen wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:52 pm
Modern Times wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:18 am Use the one that is fastest on your machine.
Intel i7 4770 3.49GHz Time Control "40/300"

Score of Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 vs igel-x64_bmi2_avx2_3_0_0: 0 - 11 - 9 [0.225]
... Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 playing White: 0 - 3 - 7 [0.350] 10
... Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 playing Black: 0 - 8 - 2 [0.100] 10
... White vs Black: 8 - 3 - 9 [0.625] 20
Elo difference: -214.8 +/- 116.3, LOS: 0.0 %, DrawRatio: 45.0 %
20 of 20 games finished.


Ethereal12.75-x64-pext-avx2.exe Version against igel-x64_bmi2_avx2_3_0_0 at the end I did NOT noticed any difference, the exact same result for both versions of Ethereal :roll:


Score of Ethereal12.75-x64-pext-avx2 vs igel-x64_bmi2_avx2_3_0_0: 0 - 11 - 9 [0.225]
... Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 playing White: 0 - 3 - 7 [0.350] 10
... Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 playing Black: 0 - 8 - 2 [0.100] 10
... White vs Black: 8 - 3 - 9 [0.625] 20
Elo difference: -214.8 +/- 116.3, LOS: 0.0 %, DrawRatio: 45.0 %
20 of 20 games finished
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Re: Which version of Ethereal should I use for inter i7 ?

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I don't know why I'm answering the Chesstroll again because it won't change anything but...
You probably did something wrong in your tests... again.
My guess is that you haven't set any value for the Hashtable size in your test.
Ethereal has default 16MB, Igel has default Hash 128MB.
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Re: Which version of Ethereal should I use for inter i7 ?

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RubiChess wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:14 am I don't know why I'm answering the Chesstroll again because it won't change anything but...
You probably did something wrong in your tests... again.
My guess is that you haven't set any value for the Hashtable size in your test.
Ethereal has default 16MB, Igel has default Hash 128MB.
From one person accused of being a Chesstroll to one known to be a Chesstroll, I set both to 64MB. I can set both Hashtable to 128MB and run it again if you want:roll:
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Re: Which version of Ethereal should I use for inter i7 ?

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Chessqueen wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:43 pm
RubiChess wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:14 am I don't know why I'm answering the Chesstroll again because it won't change anything but...
You probably did something wrong in your tests... again.
My guess is that you haven't set any value for the Hashtable size in your test.
Ethereal has default 16MB, Igel has default Hash 128MB.
From one person accused of being a Chesstroll to one known to be a Chesstroll, I set both to 64MB. I can set both Hashtable to 128MB and run it again if you want:roll:
Honestly it is NOT making much of a difference here is the progress of both engines Hashtable set to 128MB

Score of Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 vs igel-x64_bmi2_avx2_3_0_0: 0 - 6 - 0 [0.000]
... Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 playing White: 0 - 3 - 0 [0.000] 3
... Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 playing Black: 0 - 3 - 0 [0.000] 3
... White vs Black: 6 - 0 - 0 [0.500] 6
6 of 20 games finished.
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Re: Which version of Ethereal should I use for inter i7 ?

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RubiChess wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:14 am I don't know why I'm answering the Chesstroll again because it won't change anything but...
You probably did something wrong in your tests... again.
My guess is that you haven't set any value for the Hashtable size in your test.
Ethereal has default 16MB, Igel has default Hash 128MB.
Do not worry Rubichess will be tested next against Igel using my intel i7 4770 3.40 GHz TC 2'+1" . Do you have any latest Beta version that I can test Vs Igel ?

This is the score so far using 128MB for both Engines

Score of Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 vs igel-x64_bmi2_avx2_3_0_0: 0 - 9 - 5 [0.179]
... Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 playing White: 0 - 5 - 2 [0.143] 7
... Ethereal12.75-x64-popcnt-avx2 playing Black: 0 - 4 - 3 [0.214] 7
... White vs Black: 4 - 5 - 5 [0.464] 14
Elo difference: -265.1 +/- 178.0, LOS: 0.1 %, DrawRatio: 35.7 %
14 of 20 games finished.
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Re: Which version of Ethereal should I use for inter i7 ?

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Chessqueen wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:20 pm Do not worry Rubichess will be tested next against Igel using my intel i7 4770 3.40 GHz TC 2'+1" . Do you have any latest Beta version that I can test Vs Igel ?
I have but I only give it to people who know how to use an engine.
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Re: Which version of Ethereal should I use for inter i7 ?

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RubiChess wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:11 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:20 pm Do not worry Rubichess will be tested next against Igel using my intel i7 4770 3.40 GHz TC 2'+1" . Do you have any latest Beta version that I can test Vs Igel ?
I have but I only give it to people who know how to use an engine.
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