Any recent examples of strong programs losing with white at longer time controls?

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Any recent examples of strong programs losing with white at longer time controls?

Post by mmt »

Are there are any games to check out? It would be fun to go through them to see what happened. Of course, it shouldn't be a purposefully bad opening.
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Re: Any recent examples of strong programs losing with white at longer time controls?

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There are quite a few examples from correspondence games and computer-computer play. Just one for example:
[pgn]
[Event "SSDF-match"]
[Site "Sundsvall"]
[Date "2020.09.30"]
[Round "35"]
[White "Komodo 14 x64 1800X"]
[Black "Stockfish 12 NNUE x64 1800X"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A29"]
[PlyCount "114"]
[EventDate "2020.09.16"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventRounds "40"]
[EventCountry "SWE"]

1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. Nc3 Nb6 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8.
d3 O-O 9. a3 Re8 10. b4 a5 11. b5 Nd4 12. Bb2 Bf8 13. e3 Nxf3+ 14. Bxf3 a4 15.
Be4 h6 16. Qc2 Ra7 17. Qe2 Be6 18. f4 Nd7 19. Bf3 Bb3 20. Rac1 Re6 21. Bh5 Re7
22. Bg4 Ra5 23. Bf5 exf4 24. Rxf4 Ne5 25. Be4 c6 26. bxc6 bxc6 27. Nb1 Bd5 28.
Bd4 Bxe4 29. Rxe4 Qe8 30. Rc2 Re6 31. Kg2 f5 32. Rxe5 Raxe5 33. Bxe5 Rxe5 34.
Qf3 Rxe3 35. Qxf5 Re2+ 36. Rxe2 Qxe2+ 37. Kh3 Qa2 38. d4 Qc4 39. Qe4 Kf7 40.
Kg2 Be7 41. Qe3 Bg5 42. Qf3+ Bf6 43. Nc3 Qxd4 44. Ne4 Qd5 45. Kg1 Ke7 46. Kf2
Ke6 47. h3 Bd4+ 48. Ke2 Qf5 49. Qxf5+ Kxf5 50. Kd3 Ke5 51. Nd2 Bc5 52. Nb1 Kf5
53. Ke2 Ke4 54. h4 Bd6 55. Nc3+ Kd4 56. Kd2 Bxa3 57. Nxa4 Bd6 {White resigns}
0-1
[/pgn]
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Re: Any recent examples of strong programs losing with white at longer time controls?

Post by Andrew »

It would be very interesting to know the TC for this game, and where each engine left the book!

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Re: Any recent examples of strong programs losing with white at longer time controls?

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SSDF time control is 40 moves/2 hours followed by 20 moves/each following hour. They generally use the engine's own book, if it has one, but I am not clear what they do for engines like Stockfish that have no official book.

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Re: Any recent examples of strong programs losing with white at longer time controls?

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Thanks Jon!

Andrew
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Re: Any recent examples of strong programs losing with white at longer time controls?

Post by Dann Corbit »

mmt wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:59 am Are there are any games to check out? It would be fun to go through them to see what happened. Of course, it shouldn't be a purposefully bad opening.
For the current TCEC contest, not including the superfinal games, there were 88 wins for black.

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I:\pgn\tcec\seasons\20>type general.dat

Games        :    661 (finished)

White Wins   :    253 (38.3 %)
Black Wins   :     88 (13.3 %)
Draws        :    320 (48.4 %)
Unfinished   :      0

White Perf.  : 62.5 %
Black Perf.  : 37.5 %

ECO A =    182 Games (27.5 %)
ECO B =    171 Games (25.9 %)
ECO C =    129 Games (19.5 %)
ECO D =     93 Games (14.1 %)
ECO E =     86 Games (13.0 %)
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