cdani wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:55 pm
Hello!
I was curious about what could I obtain adding nnue to Andscacs.
I went straight to nnue probe of Daniel Shawul:
https://github.com/dshawul/nnue-probe
After some work, manual tuning and testing, the result was beyond my expectations:
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%)
1 Andscacs 0.95183 : 3042.4 14.5 620.0 695 89.2%
2 Andscacs 0.95143 : 2669.6 14.5 75.0 695 10.8%
So more than 350 elo in self play!
Here the Windows executable and latest Stockfish nnue net:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aj8wlSmr_Hq3islynT1 ... Q?e=FVH5CN
You can change the nnue net, just overwrite the nn.bin file.
Of course rating lists that care about engine originality should not add this version.
This is not only a dreaded disease, it is stupidity at its very highest leve.
Please explain to me how letting a bunch of engines mindlessly pound away at each other and writing out a bunch of numbers that nobody even knows exactly what they are expresses originality.
In the first place, it is well demonstrated in copyright law that a table of numbers (e.g. an NN net) does not represent originality and cannot be copyrighted.
In the second place, the humans are adding no additional originality whatsoever. It is like there are a million little workers all smashing a block of marble into dust and at the end, someone says that they invented dust.
I see very little originality in any of this, and yet it is being used as an excuse to exclude bands of people and engines from tournaments.
I guess they did not copy as quickly as the others who are accepted.
The chess community can have their phony-baloney "This is my original stuff and you had better not touch it" mentality. i find it very tiring,
Do not get me wrong. It is a lot of work to write LC0. It is a lot of work to graft NNUE onto SF. It is a lot of work to run a million trials to make a net.
It is just that there is no originality in it whatsoever.
Is a bit far from Stockfish, but is not bad:
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%)
1 Stockfish 311220 : 2961.6 20.8 83.5 109 76.6%
2 Andscacs 0.95183 : 2750.4 20.8 25.5 109 23.4%
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.
I'll stick to plain old Andscacs. There are more than enough Stockfish nets floating around.
