Introducing Toga III chess engine

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Re: Introducing Toga III chess engine

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No. The original didn’t and this one just has a brain transplant.
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Re: Introducing Toga III chess engine

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Hi Dieterich,
I do not have better results here, do I use the wrong files?
toga3_avx2.exe 21.978.765 18.04.2021 17:14 ----

Toga III 0.3 UCI based on Fruit 2.1 by Dietrich Kappe, Jerry Donald Watson, Thomas Gaksch and Fabien Letouzey.
Embedded NNUE loaded !


1 Nirvana Chess 2.5 x64 1CPU 3048 +21 +27/=52/-21 53.00% 53.0/100
2 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU 3020 -21 +21/=52/-27 47.00% 47.0/100

1 DanaSah 8.8DN1 x64 1CPU +24 +32/=43/-25 53.50% 53.5/100
2 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU -24 +25/=43/-32 46.50% 46.5/100

1 Orion 0.8NN x64 1CPU 3050 +70 +40/=40/-20 60.00% 60.0/100
2 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU 2980 -70 +20/=40/-40 40.00% 40.0/100

1 Weiss 1.3 x64 1CPU 2974 +14 +26/=52/-22 52.00% 52.0/100
2 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU 2960 -14 +22/=52/-26 48.00% 48.0/100

1 Combusken 1.4.0 x64 1CPU 3045 +53 +32/=51/-17 57.50% 57.5/100
2 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU 2992 -53 +17/=51/-32 42.50% 42.5/100

1 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU 3014 +10 +27/=49/-24 51.50% 51.5/100
2 Koivisto 4.0 x64 1CPU 3004 -10 +24/=49/-27 48.50% 48.5/100
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Re: Introducing Toga III chess engine

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Werner wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:18 pm Hi Dieterich,
I do not have better results here, do I use the wrong files?
toga3_avx2.exe 21.978.765 18.04.2021 17:14 ----

Toga III 0.3 UCI based on Fruit 2.1 by Dietrich Kappe, Jerry Donald Watson, Thomas Gaksch and Fabien Letouzey.
Embedded NNUE loaded !


1 Nirvana Chess 2.5 x64 1CPU 3048 +21 +27/=52/-21 53.00% 53.0/100
2 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU 3020 -21 +21/=52/-27 47.00% 47.0/100

1 DanaSah 8.8DN1 x64 1CPU +24 +32/=43/-25 53.50% 53.5/100
2 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU -24 +25/=43/-32 46.50% 46.5/100

1 Orion 0.8NN x64 1CPU 3050 +70 +40/=40/-20 60.00% 60.0/100
2 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU 2980 -70 +20/=40/-40 40.00% 40.0/100

1 Weiss 1.3 x64 1CPU 2974 +14 +26/=52/-22 52.00% 52.0/100
2 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU 2960 -14 +22/=52/-26 48.00% 48.0/100

1 Combusken 1.4.0 x64 1CPU 3045 +53 +32/=51/-17 57.50% 57.5/100
2 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU 2992 -53 +17/=51/-32 42.50% 42.5/100

1 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU 3014 +10 +27/=49/-24 51.50% 51.5/100
2 Koivisto 4.0 x64 1CPU 3004 -10 +24/=49/-27 48.50% 48.5/100
Can you try 3.2 and 3.3 head-to-head?
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Re: Introducing Toga III chess engine

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Werner wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:18 pm Hi Dieterich,
I do not have better results here, do I use the wrong files?
toga3_avx2.exe 21.978.765 18.04.2021 17:14 ----

1 DanaSah 8.8DN1 x64 1CPU +24 +32/=43/-25 53.50% 53.5/100
2 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU -24 +25/=43/-32 46.50% 46.5/100
Thank you for testing this version of DanaSah.

I tried playing 1000 bullet games DanaSah vs TOGA III 0.2 (both sse) and TOGA won by about 66 Elo points. Although I think I used a DanaSah 32bit version and maybe with 64bit the engine gains speed because of the nnue evaluation although it's not bitboard.
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Re: Introducing Toga III chess engine

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dkappe wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:02 pm Can you try 3.2 and 3.3 head-to-head?
I have yet only one result with both versions:
Toga III 0.2NN 1CPU -3028 - Koivisto 4.0 x64 1CPU - 3004 50%
and
1 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU 3014 +10 +27/=49/-24 51.50% 51.5/100
2 Koivisto 4.0 x64 1CPU 3004 -10 +24/=49/-27 48.50% 48.5/100
more games are tomorrow ready
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Re: Introducing Toga III chess engine

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Werner wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:43 am
dkappe wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:02 pm Can you try 3.2 and 3.3 head-to-head?
I have yet only one result with both versions:
Toga III 0.2NN 1CPU -3028 - Koivisto 4.0 x64 1CPU - 3004 50%
and
1 Toga III 0.3NN x64 1CPU 3014 +10 +27/=49/-24 51.50% 51.5/100
2 Koivisto 4.0 x64 1CPU 3004 -10 +24/=49/-27 48.50% 48.5/100
more games are tomorrow ready
I have a Windows test, thanks to the author of Igel:

Score of Toga 0.3 vs Toga 0.2: 614 - 538 - 1454 [0.515] 2606
Elo difference: 10.14 +/- 8.86
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Re: Introducing Toga III chess engine

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Question to the author of the engine - why does the engine not work on my processor Intel Core i7 870
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Re: Introducing Toga III chess engine

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Krzysztof Grzelak wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:29 pm Question to the author of the engine - why does the engine not work on my processor Intel Core i7 870
Which os are you running?
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Re: Introducing Toga III chess engine

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dkappe wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:45 pm Which os are you running?
Windows 10 x64
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Re: Introducing Toga III chess engine

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Krzysztof Grzelak wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:47 pm
dkappe wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:45 pm Which os are you running?
Windows 10 x64
Your cpu has no avx support, so you have to use the sse or basic binary.
Fat Titz by Stockfish, the engine with the bodaciously big net. Remember: size matters. If you want to learn more about this engine just google for "Fat Titz".