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New engine releases & news 2021
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Wow, Berserk made a HUGE jump in strength
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Hi there,
Lucas is working on Demolito:
https://ci.appveyor.com/project/lucasar ... /artifacts
Last version from March 19th, 2021!
Thanks to Lucas, a very very nice work.
Demolito is a great fighter, I like it a lot!
Best
Frank
Lucas is working on Demolito:
https://ci.appveyor.com/project/lucasar ... /artifacts
Last version from March 19th, 2021!
Thanks to Lucas, a very very nice work.
Demolito is a great fighter, I like it a lot!
Best
Frank
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Re: New engine releases & news 2021
FYI, a file comparison between version 10-10-2020 and this one shows 13 different bytes.Frank Quisinsky wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:01 am Hi there,
Lucas is working on Demolito:
https://ci.appveyor.com/project/lucasar ... /artifacts
Last version from March 19th, 2021!
Gabor Szots
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Re: New engine releases & news 2021
Hi Gabor,
for such a small source code 13 different bytes can be a lot!?
Never we can sure that in case of Demolito 13 different bytes can be 50 Elo.
The programmer seems to be the master of small sources.
Thinking on Thinker or Senpai ... (very small sources).
Lucas must be a Genius in programming.
Two programmers have written me this comment in a mail discussion, one of the programmers was Fabien!
Best
Frank
for such a small source code 13 different bytes can be a lot!?
Never we can sure that in case of Demolito 13 different bytes can be 50 Elo.
The programmer seems to be the master of small sources.
Thinking on Thinker or Senpai ... (very small sources).
Lucas must be a Genius in programming.
Two programmers have written me this comment in a mail discussion, one of the programmers was Fabien!
Best
Frank
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Re: New engine releases & news 2021
I got +160 Elo compared to Alpha 1mvanthoor wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:29 pmYes, but also because of the hash move ordering.Gabor Szots wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:42 pm Thanks Marcel. I guess the incredible speed increase is due to using hash tables, isn't it?
The TT itself (cutting on finding exact positions) gives about 116 Elo, and the hash move ordering provides another 50 Elo. The bug that caused me to retract the Alpha 2 release broke hash move sorting. I could have put that into the next release and/or fixed the bug there of course. It would just have split the rating increase over two releases; but I was just in time to remove the buggy release.
In my own gauntlets against 10 other engines in the 1650-1900 range, Alpha 2 performs +165 Elo over Alpha 1. In self-play, head-to-head, Alpha 2 is +200 Elo stronger than Alpha 1 (but self-play is not really a useful measure for rating lists). Here's the rating list, with the gauntlet included (rc6 is now the release version, rc5.1 is the one with the bug). The list is calculated with BayesElo and calibrated against Alpha 1's current CCRL rating.
1677 -> 1843 is a 166 Elo improvement.Code: Select all
Rank Name Elo + - games score oppo. draws 1 Clueless 1.4 1874 43 42 200 60% 1789 8% 2 Deepov 0.4 1854 40 40 200 58% 1789 20% 3 Rustic Alpha 2 rc6 1843 18 18 1000 59% 1773 18% 4 Pigeon 1.5.1 1824 38 38 200 55% 1789 35% 5 Wukong JS 1.4 1824 40 40 200 54% 1789 17% 6 CDrill Build 4 1801 42 41 200 51% 1789 11% 7 Rustic Alpha 2 rc5.1 1793 23 23 600 57% 1741 20% 8 TSCP 1.81 1742 41 41 200 44% 1789 13% 9 Celestial 1.0 1730 40 41 200 43% 1789 17% 10 Shallow Blue 2.0 1708 41 42 200 40% 1789 14% 11 FracTal 1.0 1706 38 39 200 38% 1789 35% 12 Rustic Alpha 1 1677 23 24 600 42% 1741 19% 13 Mizar 3 1667 41 43 200 34% 1789 15% 14 MinimalChess 0.3 1582 40 41 200 29% 1735 25%
I've decided to implement together if they naturally go together, such as "hash table + hash move sorting", "killer heuristic + history heuristic" (alpha 3) and "aspriation window + PVS" (alpha 3, or alpha 4, depending on how much the rating increases with the killers and history heuristic.)
I have no idea what the killer/history heuristics are going to add; neither do I know for aspiration windows and PVS. We'll see.
1587.5 -> 1748.0
Great release!
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Last commit was December 24Gabor Szots wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:11 amFYI, a file comparison between version 10-10-2020 and this one shows 13 different bytes.Frank Quisinsky wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:01 am Hi there,
Lucas is working on Demolito:
https://ci.appveyor.com/project/lucasar ... /artifacts
Last version from March 19th, 2021!
Follow my tournament and some Leela gauntlets live at http://twitch.tv/ccls
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Re: New engine releases & news 2021
No, you looked in the wrong branch.CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:05 amLast commit was December 24Gabor Szots wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:11 amFYI, a file comparison between version 10-10-2020 and this one shows 13 different bytes.Frank Quisinsky wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:01 am Hi there,
Lucas is working on Demolito:
https://ci.appveyor.com/project/lucasar ... /artifacts
Last version from March 19th, 2021!
Appveyor creates new builds from any branch.
https://github.com/lucasart/Demolito/tree/ocb3
(very tiny changes, but at least a new sign of life)
https://rwbc-chess.de
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Re: New engine releases & news 2021
Carlos777 brought it to my attention that even the 64-bit-old compile wasn't able to run on some very old 64-bit AMD CPU's; therefore I've added 64-bit-generic to the Rustic Alpha 2 binaries in the archive on Github. This should cover CPU's such as the early AMD Athlon64 and Phenom and possibly also the 1st Opterons.() I suspect I there won't be anyone around who will test Rustic on an 18 year old AMD CPU however. Still, if the 64-bit-generic compilation runs on your system, it will be 30-35% faster than the 32-bit-generic one.
I don't think I'm going to update past releases of Rustic though. If I'd do that, I'll have to update 15 or 20 releases by next year. I assume that people will be using the latest release, except for testing against a new engine.
I don't think I'm going to update past releases of Rustic though. If I'd do that, I'll have to update 15 or 20 releases by next year. I assume that people will be using the latest release, except for testing against a new engine.
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Re: New engine releases & news 2021
Berserk 3.1.0
https://github.com/jhonnold/berserk
Bit-Genie 1.1
https://github.com/Aryan1508/Bit-Genie
https://github.com/jhonnold/berserk
Bit-Genie 1.1
https://github.com/Aryan1508/Bit-Genie
https://rwbc-chess.de
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