+100 elo breakthrough in new rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)

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100K on a 2070 Super! Now that is a 1st.

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AdminX wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:26 pm :shock:

100K on a 2070 Super! Now that is a 1st.

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What net and what dimensions (of the net)?
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Albert Silver wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:43 pm
AdminX wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:26 pm :shock:

100K on a 2070 Super! Now that is a 1st.

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What net and what dimensions (of the net)?
That was the default 10bx128 "703810"
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Re: +100 elo breakthrough in new rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)

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AdminX wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:51 pm
Albert Silver wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:43 pm
AdminX wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:26 pm :shock:

100K on a 2070 Super! Now that is a 1st.

Image
What net and what dimensions (of the net)?
That was the default 10bx128 "703810"
Try a larger net and see if you still enjoy speed improvements.
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Re: +100 elo breakthrough in new rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)

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Albert Silver wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:37 am
AdminX wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:51 pm
Albert Silver wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:43 pm
AdminX wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:26 pm :shock:

100K on a 2070 Super! Now that is a 1st.

Image
What net and what dimensions (of the net)?
That was the default 10bx128 "703810"
Try a larger net and see if you still enjoy speed improvements.
On 66512 30bx384 I am getting between 12K and 17k in the middle game with increases heading toward the endgame.
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Re: +100 elo breakthrough in new rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)

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AdminX wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:45 am
Albert Silver wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:37 am
AdminX wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:51 pm
Albert Silver wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:43 pm
AdminX wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:26 pm :shock:

100K on a 2070 Super! Now that is a 1st.

Image
What net and what dimensions (of the net)?
That was the default 10bx128 "703810"
Try a larger net and see if you still enjoy speed improvements.
On 66512 30bx384 I am getting between 12K and 17k in the middle game with increases heading toward the endgame.
How does that compare with Lc0 v26?
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Re: +100 elo breakthrough in new rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)

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Nay Lin Tun wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:34 am Announcement from Leela discord.

Long time community member and developer @dje has created a new chess engine that uses Leela Chess Zero networks. It appears much stronger than lc0 (see the performance test below). The build process is currently being worked on so please be patient while the community helps to make executables available to all for further testing.
We are likely to make this the new official Leela Chess Zero project engine if all goes well so feel free to ask questions about it in #help or aid development in #dev-public.
Link to source code on GitHub: https://discord.com/channels/4254194825 ... 0299791370
Quick performance test: https://discord.com/channels/4254194825 ... 9669066784
Thanks to dje for this wonderful late Christmas gift! gift


FYI, new engine is approx 2.3x faster than Lco!

Looking at some live tests. This does not seem to be true. 2.3x faster, or +100 Elo. Am I missing something.
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Re: +100 elo breakthrough in new rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)

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mwyoung wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:04 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:34 am Announcement from Leela discord.

Long time community member and developer @dje has created a new chess engine that uses Leela Chess Zero networks. It appears much stronger than lc0 (see the performance test below). The build process is currently being worked on so please be patient while the community helps to make executables available to all for further testing.
We are likely to make this the new official Leela Chess Zero project engine if all goes well so feel free to ask questions about it in #help or aid development in #dev-public.
Link to source code on GitHub: https://discord.com/channels/4254194825 ... 0299791370
Quick performance test: https://discord.com/channels/4254194825 ... 9669066784
Thanks to dje for this wonderful late Christmas gift! gift


FYI, new engine is approx 2.3x faster than Lco!

Looking at some live tests. This does not seem to be true. 2.3x faster, or +100 Elo. Am I missing something.
The 100+ elo gain and 2.3 x speed gain are mentioned on post 2, about
1. Hardwares
2. Testing conditions, time control and
3. Opening book

It doesn't mean +100 elo and 2.3x in any testing conditions. Also, +133 elo gain of Stockfish 12 over Stockfish 11 means in some specific testing conditions.

If testers has doubt about their claim, you guys need to verify with the same testing conditions.
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Re: +100 elo breakthrough in new rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)

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Nay Lin Tun wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:04 am
mwyoung wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:04 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:34 am Announcement from Leela discord.

Long time community member and developer @dje has created a new chess engine that uses Leela Chess Zero networks. It appears much stronger than lc0 (see the performance test below). The build process is currently being worked on so please be patient while the community helps to make executables available to all for further testing.
We are likely to make this the new official Leela Chess Zero project engine if all goes well so feel free to ask questions about it in #help or aid development in #dev-public.
Link to source code on GitHub: https://discord.com/channels/4254194825 ... 0299791370
Quick performance test: https://discord.com/channels/4254194825 ... 9669066784
Thanks to dje for this wonderful late Christmas gift! gift


FYI, new engine is approx 2.3x faster than Lco!

Looking at some live tests. This does not seem to be true. 2.3x faster, or +100 Elo. Am I missing something.
The 100+ elo gain and 2.3 x speed gain are mentioned on post 2, about
1. Hardwares
2. Testing conditions, time control and
3. Opening book

It doesn't mean +100 elo and 2.3x in any testing conditions. Also, +133 elo gain of Stockfish 12 over Stockfish 11 means in some specific testing conditions.

If testers has doubt about their claim, you guys need to verify with the same testing conditions.
It will be test, but the results did show some improvement. Awaiting the release.
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Re: +100 elo breakthrough in new rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)

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Maybe finally chess engine which is usable also in GTX card?!
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