Draw or white win?
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Draw or white win?
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Re: Draw or white win?
Hello:
What a chance to test 7-man Syzygy EGTB in a poweful PC and with a strong engine! It is not my case, not even with 6-man EGTB... I would give a go with the white side just to not lose.
Anyway, here are the KBPPvKRP and KRPPvKBP EGTB dependencies, which are the more evident 7-man endgames in this position:
KBPPvKRP.txt (340 *.rtbw files + 1 *.rtbz file: 125 "3-4-5 EGTB" files + 140 "6-WDL" files + 36 "4v3 pawnful" files + 40 "4v3 pawnless" files):
KRPPvKBP.txt (340 *.rtbw files + 1 *.rtbz file: 125 "3-4-5 EGTB" files + 140 "6-WDL" files + 36 "4v3 pawnful" files + 40 "4v3 pawnless" files):
A nice amount of TB for sure, although many EGTB files are repeated in both 7-man endgames. Good luck!
Regards from Spain.
Ajedrecista.
What a chance to test 7-man Syzygy EGTB in a poweful PC and with a strong engine! It is not my case, not even with 6-man EGTB... I would give a go with the white side just to not lose.
Anyway, here are the KBPPvKRP and KRPPvKBP EGTB dependencies, which are the more evident 7-man endgames in this position:
KBPPvKRP.txt (340 *.rtbw files + 1 *.rtbz file: 125 "3-4-5 EGTB" files + 140 "6-WDL" files + 36 "4v3 pawnful" files + 40 "4v3 pawnless" files):
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Re: Draw or white win?
I'm missing just a couple of these EGTBs. I'll download them and let you know the result!
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Re: Draw or white win?
Analysis by Stockfish:
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1...Kg7 2.Kf2 Be5 3.Rc8 Kf7 4.Kf3 Kf6 5.Rc6+ Kf7 6.g4 hxg4+ 7.hxg4 Kg7 8.g5 Kf7 9.Ke4 Bb2 10.Rc2 Ba3 11.Rc7+ Kf8 12.Rc4 Kg7 13.Rc6 Bb4 14.Rc7+ Kf8 15.Rc8+ Kg7 16.Ke5 Be7 17.Kf4 Bd6+ 18.Kf3 Be7 19.Kg4 Bd6 20.Rc2 Kf7 21.Rf2+ Kg7 22.Re2 Bb4 23.Ra2 Bc5 24.Kf4 Bd6+ 25.Ke4 Bb4 26.Kd5 Bc3 27.Rc2 Ba1 28.Re2 Kf8 29.Rf2+ Kg7 30.Ke6 Bc3 31.Rf7+ Kg8 32.Rf1 Bb2 33.Rb1 Bc3 34.Rb8+ Kg7 35.Rb7+ Kf8 36.Ra7 Bd4 37.Rf7+ Kg8 38.Rd7 Bb2 39.Rd8+ Kg7 40.Rd1 Kf8 41.Rb1 Bd4 42.Rb3 Kg8 43.Rd3 Ba1 44.Rd1 Bc3 45.Rd8+ Kg7 46.Rd7+ Kg8
+- (4.69) Depth: 76/92 00:01:38 1698mN, tb=8460625
clear draw .
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1...Kg7 2.Kf2 Be5 3.Rc8 Kf7 4.Kf3 Kf6 5.Rc6+ Kf7 6.g4 hxg4+ 7.hxg4 Kg7 8.g5 Kf7 9.Ke4 Bb2 10.Rc2 Ba3 11.Rc7+ Kf8 12.Rc4 Kg7 13.Rc6 Bb4 14.Rc7+ Kf8 15.Rc8+ Kg7 16.Ke5 Be7 17.Kf4 Bd6+ 18.Kf3 Be7 19.Kg4 Bd6 20.Rc2 Kf7 21.Rf2+ Kg7 22.Re2 Bb4 23.Ra2 Bc5 24.Kf4 Bd6+ 25.Ke4 Bb4 26.Kd5 Bc3 27.Rc2 Ba1 28.Re2 Kf8 29.Rf2+ Kg7 30.Ke6 Bc3 31.Rf7+ Kg8 32.Rf1 Bb2 33.Rb1 Bc3 34.Rb8+ Kg7 35.Rb7+ Kf8 36.Ra7 Bd4 37.Rf7+ Kg8 38.Rd7 Bb2 39.Rd8+ Kg7 40.Rd1 Kf8 41.Rb1 Bd4 42.Rb3 Kg8 43.Rd3 Ba1 44.Rd1 Bc3 45.Rd8+ Kg7 46.Rd7+ Kg8
+- (4.69) Depth: 76/92 00:01:38 1698mN, tb=8460625
clear draw .
Jouni
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Re: Draw or white win?
Someone posted in Leela discord for big discrepancies among Leela vs Stockfish evaluations.
Leela +0.05 vs Stockfish +5.00.
I think that it is a fortress. ( And also Leela nets are trained based on 6 men TB adjudication)
Leela +0.05 vs Stockfish +5.00.
I think that it is a fortress. ( And also Leela nets are trained based on 6 men TB adjudication)
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Re: Draw or white win?
Eval on some SF versions Stockfish_20102220 vs Bluefish-12-W vs Crystal_x64_110920 vs Cfish NUMA 261020.
As the scores are very different, I ran a blitz tournament between these 4 versions with all 6 pcs Syzygy. The results are very drawish, the black only lost when he pushes the h pawn. I agree the initial position is a fortress.
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Stockfish_20102220_x64_modern:
Found 511 tablebases
NNUE evaluation using nn-eba324f53044.nnue enabled
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99/110 30:55 20 444 588 587 11 016 074 +1,91 1. ... Kg7 2.Rb1 Bf6 3.Rb7+ Kg8 4.Rb8+ Kh7 5.Ke2 Kg7 6.Rc8 Bh4 7.Rc7+ Kf6 8.Rd7 Bg3 9.Rb7 Be5 10.Rb6+ Kf7 11.Rc6 Bg3 12.Rc3 Bh4 13.Rb3 Bf6 14.Rf3 Kg7 15.Rg3 Kh7 16.Rd3 Kg8 17.Rd6 Kf7 18.Kf3 Kg7 19.Rc6 Be5 20.Ke3 Kf7 21.Ke4 Bf6 22.Rc7+ Kg8 23.Rb7 Bg7 24.Rb8+ Kf7 25.g3 Bc3 26.Ra8 Bg7 27.Ra7+ Kf6 28.Ra6+ Kf7 29.Kd5 Bc3 30.Ra7+ Kf6 31.Kc5 Be5 32.Ra3 Kg7 33.Kd5 Bb2 34.Ra7+ Kf6 35.Ra6+ Kg7 36.Rd6 Ba1 37.Rd7+ Kg8 38.Kd6 Bf6 39.Rb7 Bc3 40.Ke7 Bd4 41.Kd7 Bc3 42.Rb8+ Kf7 43.Kd8 Bf6+ 44.Kc8 Kg7 45.Rb7+ Kg8 46.Rd7 Bc3 47.Rd8+ Kf7 48.Rd3 Bf6 49.Rd7+ Ke6 50.Ra7 Bb2 51.Kd8 Be5 52.Ra6+ Kf7 53.Ra3 Bg7 54.Rf3+ Bf6+ 55.Kd7 Kg7 56.h4
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Bluefish-12-W-x86-64-modern:
Found 511 tablebases
NNUE evaluation using nn-eba324f53044.nnue enabled
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54/63 11:00 7 367 816 264 11 150 366 +1,02 1. ... Kf7 2.Rb6 Kg7 3.Re6 Kf7 4.Ra6 Bf6 5.Ra7+ Kg8 6.Rb7 Ba1 7.Ke2 Bf6 8.Rb6 Kg7 9.Kf3 Kf7 10.Rb4 Kg8 11.Re4 Ba1 12.Re6 Kf7 13.Rc6 Bf6 14.Rc7+ Kg8 15.Rc8+ Kf7 16.Ke4 Kg7 17.Rc7+ Kf8 18.Rc6 Kf7 19.Ra6 Kg7 20.Rb6 Ba1 21.Rb3 Kf7 22.Kd5 Kg8 23.Rb8+ Kh7 24.Ke6 Kg7 25.Rb7+ Kg8 26.Ra7 Bb2 27.Ra8+ Kg7 28.Ra2 Bd4 29.Kd5 Bc3 30.Ra7+ Kg8 31.Ra6 Kg7 32.Ke6 Kg8 33.Ra8+ Kg7
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Crystal_x64_110920_SSE41_popcnt:
Found 511 tablebases
classical evaluation enabled
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46/82 01:03 519 414 346 8 179 753 +4,65 1. ... Kf7 2.Rb7+ Kf6 3.Kf2 Be5 4.Ke3 Kf5 5.Kf3 Bh2 6.Rb6 Be5 7.Ra6 Bf6 8.Ra5+ Ke6 9.Rb5 Bd4 10.Kf4 Kf6 11.Ke4 Bf2 12.Rb3 Be1 13.Rb6+ Kf7 14.Rb1 Bc3 15.Rb7+ Kf6 16.Rb6+ Kf7 17.Kf3 Bg7 18.Kf4 Bh6+ 19.Ke5 Bg7+ 20.Kd6 Bf8+ 21.Kd7 Bh6 22.Rb1 Bg7 23.Kd6 Bf8+ 24.Kd5 Kf6 25.Rb6+ Kf7 26.Rb3 Bh6 27.Rb7+ Kf6 28.Rb6+ Kf5 29.Rb1 Kf6 30.Ke4 Bg7 31.Rb3 Kf7 32.Rb7+ Kf6 33.Rb1 Bf8 34.Kf3 Ba3 35.Rb6+ Kf7 36.Rb7+ Kf6 37.Ke3 Be7 38.Rb6+ Kg7 39.Ke4 Bf6 40.Rb7+ Kg8 41.Rc7
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Cfish NUMA 261020 x64:
Hybrid NNUE evaluation using nn-eba324f53044.nnue enabled.
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78/91 01:39 1 434 093 083 14 476 868 +1,72 1. ... Kf7 2.Ke2 Be5 3.Rb7+ Kg8 4.Rb6 Kg7 5.Ke3 Bf6 6.Rb7+ Kg8 7.Ke4 Bg7 8.Kd5 Ba1 9.Kd6 Bf6 10.Rc7 Bb2 11.Rc8+ Kg7 12.Ke6 Ba1 13.Kd7 Be5 14.Rc6 Bf6 15.Ke6 Bb2 16.Rc7+ Kg8 17.Rc8+ Kg7 18.g3 Ba1 19.h4 Bb2 20.Rc7+ Kg8 21.Kd5 Ba1 22.Rd7 Bf6 23.Ke6 Bc3 24.Rd1 Bb2 25.Rd8+ Kg7 26.Rc8 Ba1 27.Ra8 Bb2 28.Ra7+ Kf8 29.Re7 Ba1 30.Rb7 Kg8 31.Rb8+ Kg7 32.Rb6 Kg8 33.Rd6 Bb2 34.Ra6 Kg7 35.Rb6 Bc3 36.Rb7+ Kg8 37.Rb5 Kg7 38.Rd5 Ba1 39.Rd7+ Kg8 40.Rd3 Kf8 41.Rf3+ Kg8 42.Kd6 Bb2 43.Rb3 Bf6 44.Rb8+ Kf7 45.Rb7+ Kf8 46.Kd5 Bg7
As the scores are very different, I ran a blitz tournament between these 4 versions with all 6 pcs Syzygy. The results are very drawish, the black only lost when he pushes the h pawn. I agree the initial position is a fortress.
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Result:
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# name games wins draws losses score los% elo+/-
1. Bluefish v12-R1 6 2 4 0 4.0 92.1 120.4
2. Stockfish 221020 6 0 6 0 3.0-nan(ind) -0.0
3. Cfish 261020 64 NUMA 6 0 5 1 2.5 15.9 -58.5
4. Crystal 110920 6 0 5 1 2.5 15.9 -58.5
Cross table:
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# name score games 1 2 3 4
1. Bluefish v12-R1 4.0 6 x 1.0 1.5 1.5
2. Stockfish 221020 3.0 6 1.0 x 1.0 1.0
3. Cfish 261020 64 NUMA 2.5 6 0.5 1.0 x 1.0
4. Crystal 110920 2.5 6 0.5 1.0 1.0 x
Tech:
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Tech (average nodes, depths, time/m per move, others per game), counted for computing moves only, ignored moves with zero nodes:
# name nodes/m NPS depth/m time/m moves time
1. Bluefish v12-R1 13627K 1990165 34.7 6.8 97.2 665.3
2. Stockfish 221020 13746K 1992346 50.8 6.9 151.8 1047.6
3. Cfish 261020 64 NUMA 19165K 2777527 48.7 6.9 128.2 884.4
4. Crystal 110920 8399K 1233976 44.7 6.8 133.2 906.3
all --- 13368K 1993940 45.6 6.9 127.6 875.9
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Re: Draw or white win?
No doubt about it for Crystal after some Forward- Backward.Vinvin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:29 am Eval on some SF versions Stockfish_20102220 vs Bluefish-12-W vs Crystal_x64_110920 vs Cfish NUMA 261020.
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Crystal_x64_110920_SSE41_popcnt: Found 511 tablebases classical evaluation enabled ... 46/82 01:03 519 414 346 8 179 753 +4,65 1. ... Kf7 2.Rb7+ Kf6 3.Kf2 Be5 4.Ke3 Kf5 5.Kf3 Bh2 6.Rb6 Be5 7.Ra6 Bf6 8.Ra5+ Ke6 9.Rb5 Bd4 10.Kf4 Kf6 11.Ke4 Bf2 12.Rb3 Be1 13.Rb6+ Kf7 14.Rb1 Bc3 15.Rb7+ Kf6 16.Rb6+ Kf7 17.Kf3 Bg7 18.Kf4 Bh6+ 19.Ke5 Bg7+ 20.Kd6 Bf8+ 21.Kd7 Bh6 22.Rb1 Bg7 23.Kd6 Bf8+ 24.Kd5 Kf6 25.Rb6+ Kf7 26.Rb3 Bh6 27.Rb7+ Kf6 28.Rb6+ Kf5 29.Rb1 Kf6 30.Ke4 Bg7 31.Rb3 Kf7 32.Rb7+ Kf6 33.Rb1 Bf8 34.Kf3 Ba3 35.Rb6+ Kf7 36.Rb7+ Kf6 37.Ke3 Be7 38.Rb6+ Kg7 39.Ke4 Bf6 40.Rb7+ Kg8 41.Rc7
6men Syzygys, 22 threads of 12x3GHz X5670 Xeon CUP (SSE4.1 popcnt compile), NNUE used with this one net
nn-62ef826d1a6d.nnue
[d]1R4k1/8/6p1/7p/8/7P/6P1/b4K2 b - - 0 1
Analysis by Crystal 051220: (MikeB made update of his own and gave here
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... 19#p875119
link to sources here
https://github.com/MichaelB7/Stockfish/tree/crystal
)
1...Kg7 2.Rb7+ Kf8 3.Rb6 Kg7
= (0.00) Depth: 7/11 00:00:00 49kN
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1...Kg7 2.Rb7+ Kg8 3.Rb3 Kf7 4.Rf3+ Bf6 5.g4 hxg4 6.hxg4
= (0.00) Depth: 34/11 00:02:31 3184MN, tb=8577846
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1...Kg7 2.Rb7+ Kf8 3.Rb8+
= (0.00) Depth: 41/6 00:12:15 14834MN, tb=34441814
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Re: Draw or white win?
All three moves by black are tablebase draws.Nay Lin Tun wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:39 am Someone posted in Leela discord for big discrepancies among Leela vs Stockfish evaluations.
Leela +0.05 vs Stockfish +5.00.
I think that it is a fortress. ( And also Leela nets are trained based on 6 men TB adjudication)
This one of the many positions that CAN NOT convert to a 7-man TB position by promotion which makes it easy to prove all resulting 7-man position that can result from this position are " at least" a draw.
Regards,
Zenmastur
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