What is the outcome of this unusual endgame

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What is the outcome of this unusual endgame

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BB vs NNPP | +1.5 pawn edge for black. Is white able to defend ?

[d]8/5pk1/4pnp1/3n3p/8/3B4/3B1PP1/6K1 w - - 0 1
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Re: What is the outcome of this unusual endgame

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Nordlandia wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:41 pm BB vs NNPP | +1.5 pawn edge for black. Is white able to defend ?

[d]8/5pk1/4pnp1/3n3p/8/3B4/3B1PP1/6K1 w - - 0 1
easily defended by modern engines on high end machines, keep in mind with minor piece endgames, the bishop side can sack both bishops on the last two pawns to secure the draw when going against knights ...the 1.5 CP advantage is an illusion...

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Re: What is the outcome of this unusual endgame

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Nordlandia wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:41 pm BB vs NNPP | +1.5 pawn edge for black. Is white able to defend ?

[d]8/5pk1/4pnp1/3n3p/8/3B4/3B1PP1/6K1 w - - 0 1
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Re: What is the outcome of this unusual endgame

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Evaluation doesn't mean a thing. Engines can evaluate a dead-lost position as +8.5. You would have to play out the game.
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Re: What is the outcome of this unusual endgame

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hgm wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:01 am Evaluation doesn't mean a thing. Engines can evaluate a dead-lost position as +8.5. You would have to play out the game.
Correct. I'll see how it goes.
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Re: What is the outcome of this unusual endgame

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Nordlandia wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:53 pm
hgm wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:01 am Evaluation doesn't mean a thing. Engines can evaluate a dead-lost position as +8.5. You would have to play out the game.
Correct. I'll see how it goes.
Had a single game till now with LC0 for Black against Cfish with classical eval (cause I think that to be rather a matter of search but of eval). Both 6men Syzygys, LC0 was running on RTX 3080, Cfish on 24 threads of 12x3GHz Xeon X5670, 4G hash.

[pgn][Event "SCHWARZERBLITZ, Schnellschach 15m+5s"]
[Site "SchwarzerBlitz"]
[Date "2020.11.23"]
[Round "1"]
[White "CF EXT 161120 x64 SSE41 N"]
[Black "Lc0 v0.26.3 Net 715887 syzygy"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "-1.16;-1.18"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/5pk1/4pnp1/3n3p/8/3B4/3B1PP1/6K1 w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "48"]
[TimeControl "900+5"]

{Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5670 @ 2.93GHz 2933 MHz W=45.5 plies; 25.
358kN/s; 116.334.836 TBAs B=15.0 plies; 357kN/s; 222.456 TBAs} 1. Bc1 {[%eval
-116,36] [%emt 0:00:28]} Nb4 {[%eval -118,9] [%emt 0:00:15]} 2. Bc4 {[%eval
-132,34] [%emt 0:00:08]} Nbd5 {[%eval -112,10] [%emt 0:00:27] (Sfd5)} 3. Bd3 {
[%eval -138,39] [%emt 0:00:20] (g3)} Nb4 {[%eval -116,10] [%emt 0:00:18] (Sc3)}
4. Bf1 {[%eval -135,43] [%emt 0:00:52] (Lc4)} Ne4 {[%eval -119,10] [%emt 0:00:
24]} 5. f3 {[%eval -155,43] [%emt 0:00:00] (g3)} Ng3 {[%eval -128,13] [%emt 0:
00:12] (Sc5)} 6. Bb5 {[%eval -163,43] [%emt 0:00:47]} e5 {[%eval -147,19]
[%emt 0:00:15]} 7. Kf2 {[%eval -153,42] [%emt 0:00:03]} h4 {[%eval -148,20]
[%emt 0:00:09] (Sf5)} 8. Bg5 {[%eval -173,48] [%emt 0:00:21]} Nf5 {[%eval -148,
20] [%emt 0:00:01]} 9. Bd2 {[%eval -181,52] [%emt 0:00:18] (Ld7)} Nd6 {[%eval
-165,15] [%emt 0:00:36] (Sd5)} 10. Be2 {[%eval -173,47] [%emt 0:00:17]} Nd5 {
[%eval -167,15] [%emt 0:00:15] (Sc6)} 11. Bf1 {[%eval -189,48] [%emt 0:00:22]
(g3)} Nf4 {[%eval -171,14] [%emt 0:00:37] (Sf5)} 12. g3 {[%eval -161,40] [%emt
0:00:15]} hxg3+ {[%eval -170,14] [%emt 0:00:06]} 13. Kxg3 {[%eval -169,45]
[%emt 0:00:13]} Nf5+ {[%eval -170,13] [%emt 0:00:35] (Kf6)} 14. Kf2 {[%eval
-180,45] [%emt 0:00:12]} Kh7 {[%eval -169,12] [%emt 0:01:01] (Sd4)} 15. Ba6 {
[%eval -196,50] [%emt 0:00:25] (Lc4)} Kh8 {[%eval -177,10] [%emt 0:00:23] (f6)}
16. Bb7 {[%eval -196,56] [%emt 0:00:18] (Lc4)} Kg8 {[%eval -180,10] [%emt 0:00:
18] (Kg7)} 17. Bc3 {[%eval -204,55] [%emt 0:00:45] (La6)} f6 {[%eval -181,11]
[%emt 0:00:11]} 18. Be4 {[%eval -204,60] [%emt 0:00:03] (La6)} Kg7 {[%eval
-178,11] [%emt 0:00:38] (Sd4)} 19. Bb1 {[%eval -212,57] [%emt 0:00:38] (Lb7)}
Nh3+ {[%eval -187,13] [%emt 0:00:11]} 20. Ke2 {[%eval -287,46] [%emt 0:00:25]}
Kh6 {[%eval -219,20] [%emt 0:00:07]} 21. Ba2 {[%eval -302,42] [%emt 0:00:13]}
Nh4 {[%eval -232,21] [%emt 0:00:09] (Kg5)} 22. Ke3 {[%eval -294,48] [%emt 0:00:
27] (Ld2+)} Kg5 {[%eval -298,22] [%emt 0:00:23] (Sf5+)} 23. Bf7 {[%eval -535,
38] [%emt 0:03:26] (La5)} Nf5+ {[%eval -354,20] [%emt 0:00:16]} 24. Ke2 {
[%eval -736,34] [%emt 0:00:18]} Nd6 {[%eval -384,19] [%emt 0:00:02]} 0-1
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Re: What is the outcome of this unusual endgame

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peter wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:56 pm
Nordlandia wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:53 pm
hgm wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:01 am Evaluation doesn't mean a thing. Engines can evaluate a dead-lost position as +8.5. You would have to play out the game.
Correct. I'll see how it goes.
Had a single game till now with LC0 for Black against Cfish with classical eval (cause I think that to be rather a matter of search but of eval). Both 6men Syzygys, LC0 was running on RTX 3080, Cfish on 24 threads of 12x3GHz Xeon X5670, 4G hash.

[pgn][Event "SCHWARZERBLITZ, Schnellschach 15m+5s"]
[Site "SchwarzerBlitz"]
[Date "2020.11.23"]
[Round "1"]
[White "CF EXT 161120 x64 SSE41 N"]
[Black "Lc0 v0.26.3 Net 715887 syzygy"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "-1.16;-1.18"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/5pk1/4pnp1/3n3p/8/3B4/3B1PP1/6K1 w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "48"]
[TimeControl "900+5"]

{Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5670 @ 2.93GHz 2933 MHz W=45.5 plies; 25.
358kN/s; 116.334.836 TBAs B=15.0 plies; 357kN/s; 222.456 TBAs} 1. Bc1 {[%eval
-116,36] [%emt 0:00:28]} Nb4 {[%eval -118,9] [%emt 0:00:15]} 2. Bc4 {[%eval
-132,34] [%emt 0:00:08]} Nbd5 {[%eval -112,10] [%emt 0:00:27] (Sfd5)} 3. Bd3 {
[%eval -138,39] [%emt 0:00:20] (g3)} Nb4 {[%eval -116,10] [%emt 0:00:18] (Sc3)}
4. Bf1 {[%eval -135,43] [%emt 0:00:52] (Lc4)} Ne4 {[%eval -119,10] [%emt 0:00:
24]} 5. f3 {[%eval -155,43] [%emt 0:00:00] (g3)} Ng3 {[%eval -128,13] [%emt 0:
00:12] (Sc5)} 6. Bb5 {[%eval -163,43] [%emt 0:00:47]} e5 {[%eval -147,19]
[%emt 0:00:15]} 7. Kf2 {[%eval -153,42] [%emt 0:00:03]} h4 {[%eval -148,20]
[%emt 0:00:09] (Sf5)} 8. Bg5 {[%eval -173,48] [%emt 0:00:21]} Nf5 {[%eval -148,
20] [%emt 0:00:01]} 9. Bd2 {[%eval -181,52] [%emt 0:00:18] (Ld7)} Nd6 {[%eval
-165,15] [%emt 0:00:36] (Sd5)} 10. Be2 {[%eval -173,47] [%emt 0:00:17]} Nd5 {
[%eval -167,15] [%emt 0:00:15] (Sc6)} 11. Bf1 {[%eval -189,48] [%emt 0:00:22]
(g3)} Nf4 {[%eval -171,14] [%emt 0:00:37] (Sf5)} 12. g3 {[%eval -161,40] [%emt
0:00:15]} hxg3+ {[%eval -170,14] [%emt 0:00:06]} 13. Kxg3 {[%eval -169,45]
[%emt 0:00:13]} Nf5+ {[%eval -170,13] [%emt 0:00:35] (Kf6)} 14. Kf2 {[%eval
-180,45] [%emt 0:00:12]} Kh7 {[%eval -169,12] [%emt 0:01:01] (Sd4)} 15. Ba6 {
[%eval -196,50] [%emt 0:00:25] (Lc4)} Kh8 {[%eval -177,10] [%emt 0:00:23] (f6)}
16. Bb7 {[%eval -196,56] [%emt 0:00:18] (Lc4)} Kg8 {[%eval -180,10] [%emt 0:00:
18] (Kg7)} 17. Bc3 {[%eval -204,55] [%emt 0:00:45] (La6)} f6 {[%eval -181,11]
[%emt 0:00:11]} 18. Be4 {[%eval -204,60] [%emt 0:00:03] (La6)} Kg7 {[%eval
-178,11] [%emt 0:00:38] (Sd4)} 19. Bb1 {[%eval -212,57] [%emt 0:00:38] (Lb7)}
Nh3+ {[%eval -187,13] [%emt 0:00:11]} 20. Ke2 {[%eval -287,46] [%emt 0:00:25]}
Kh6 {[%eval -219,20] [%emt 0:00:07]} 21. Ba2 {[%eval -302,42] [%emt 0:00:13]}
Nh4 {[%eval -232,21] [%emt 0:00:09] (Kg5)} 22. Ke3 {[%eval -294,48] [%emt 0:00:
27] (Ld2+)} Kg5 {[%eval -298,22] [%emt 0:00:23] (Sf5+)} 23. Bf7 {[%eval -535,
38] [%emt 0:03:26] (La5)} Nf5+ {[%eval -354,20] [%emt 0:00:16]} 24. Ke2 {
[%eval -736,34] [%emt 0:00:18]} Nd6 {[%eval -384,19] [%emt 0:00:02]} 0-1
[/pgn]
I am also finding this position is a win for black. Deep positional analysis shows this is a win for black. Now playing shootouts. The first game has blacking winning again with Stockfish 151120 playing the shootout. Next will be Dragon, then Lc0.

Here is a clip analysis of the current game position with Stockfish playing the shootout.

[d]2B5/6n1/1B1n4/4pp2/3k2p1/6P1/5K2/8 b - - 0 1

New game Line, Shootout (Stockfish15112, Rapid 30min+30
2B5/6n1/1B1n4/4pp2/3k2p1/6P1/5K2/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish 151120:

33...Kd5 34.Ba6 Ne6 35.Kg1 Nd4 36.Kg2 Kc6 37.Bd8 N4b5 38.Kf1 Ne4 39.Bc8 Nxg3+ 40.Kf2 Nd6 41.Be6 Nh5 42.Ke1 Nf4 43.Bb3 Ne4 44.Ba4+ Kc5 45.Be7+ Kd5 46.Bd8 Nd3+ 47.Kf1 f4 48.Bb3+ Kc5 49.Bc2 Kc4 50.Bb1 f3 51.Kg1 Ng3 52.Kh2 Ne2 53.Bh4 Kd4 54.Bxd3
Black is clearly winning: -+ (-10.59) Depth: 36/56 00:00:24 1433MN, tb=2572401
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Re: What is the outcome of this unusual endgame

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I have not looked at this position with an engine. But I believe that at a glance, most strong players would evaluate this as winning for black. Black is up two pawns, and all four pawns are connected. It seems obviously winning.
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Re: What is the outcome of this unusual endgame

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[pgn][SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/5pk1/4pnp1/3n3p/8/3B4/3B1PP1/6K1 w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "44"]

1. Bc1 Kf8 2. Ba3+ Ke8 3. Kh2 Kd7 4. Kg3 e5 5. Bc1 Ke7 6. f3 Nd7 7. Bb5 f6
8. Kh3 Nf4+ 9. Kh2 h4 10. Ba3+ Ke6 11. Bb4 Nb6 12. Ba6 Kf5 13. Bd2 Kg5 14.
g3 hxg3+ 15. Kxg3 Nd5 16. Bb5 Kh5 17. Kf2 Ne7 18. Be1 Kg5 19. Bc4 Nf5 20.
Ba6 Kh5 21. Ba5 Kh4 22. Bd8 Nd5 *
[/pgn]

SF13-Dev, 7-men (Partial set) + 6-men (Full), Analysis Contempt=Off, Hash=8 Gb

D=51, 8 317 MN, 60.1 MTBHits
-2,10 1.Bc1 Kf8 2.Kh2 Ke7 3.Ba3+ Kd7 4.Kg3 e5 5.Bc1 Ke7 6.Bc4 Ne4+ 7.Kf3 Nec3 8.g3 Kd6

D=54, 912 MN, 4.7 MTBHits
-2,10 2.Ba3+ Ke8 3.Bc2 Kd7 4.Kh2 e5 5.Bb3 Ke6 6.f3 Ne8 7.Kh3 Nd6 8.Bc1 f6

D=58, 3 700 MN, 27 MTBHits
-2,10 3.Kh2 Kd7 4.Bc2 e5 5.Bb3 Ke6 6.f3 Ne8 7.Kh3 Nd6 8.Bc1 f6 9.g3 g5

D=60, 1 379 MN, 19.3 MTBHits
-2,10 4.Kg3 e5 5.Bc1 Ke7 6.f3 Nd7 7.Bb5 f6 8.Kf2 g5 9.Bd3 Ke6 10.Bg6 Nc5

D=64, 1 619 MN, 23 MTBHits
-2,10 5.Bc1 Ke7 6.f3 Nd7 7.Bb5 f6 8.Bd3 g5 9.Kh2 Nf4 10.Bc4 Nb6 11.Ba3+ Ke8

D=68, 1 044 MN, 16.6 MTBHits
-2,10 6.f3 Nd7 7.Bb5 f6 8.Bd3 g5 9.Kh2 Nf4 10.Bc4 Nb6 11.Ba3+ Ke8 12.Bg8 h4

D=66, 1 269 MN, 22.3 MTBHits
-2,10 7.Bb5 f6 8.Kh3 Nf4+ 9.Kh2 h4 10.Ba3+ Ke6 11.Bb4 Nb6 12.Be1 g5

D=64, 681 MN, 13.7 MTBHits
-2,10 8.Kh3 Nf4+ 9.Kh2 h4 10.Ba3+ Ke6 11.Bb4 Nb6 12.Be1 g5 13.g3 hxg3+

D=66, 2 516 MN, 37.1 MTBHits
-2,18 9.Kh2 h4 10.Ba3+ Ke6 11.Bb4 Nb6 12.Be1 g5 13.g3 hxg3+ 14.Kxg3 Nbd5

D=60, 1 354 MN, 18.1 MTBHits
-2,26 11.Bb4 Nb6 12.g3 Nbd5 13.Bc4 hxg3+ 14.Kxg3 Kf5 15.Bd2 Nh5+ 16.Kf2 Ndf4

D=65, 6 409 MN, 82.3 MTBHits
-2,42 12.Ba6 Kf5 13.Bb7 Nc4 14.Bc5 Nd2 15.Bb6 Kg5 16.Bc6 Nb3 17.g3 hxg3+

D=64, 805 MN, 8.1 MTBHits
-2,42 13.Bd2 Kg5 14.Bf1 Nbd5 15.g3 hxg3+ 16.Kxg3 Kh5 17.Bb5 Ne6 18.Bc4 Ndf4

D=60, 2 146 MN, 25.1 MTBHits
-2,50 14.g3 hxg3+ 15.Kxg3 Nbd5 16.Be1 Kh5 17.Ba5 Ne7 18.Bb7 Nf5+ 19.Kf2 Nd3+

D=62, 638 MN, 6.6 MTBHits
-2,59 16.Bb5 Kh5 17.Kf2 Ne7 18.Ba5 Kg5 19.Bd2 Kh4 20.Be1 Nf5 21.Kg1+ Kg5

D=81, 167 555 MN, 2232 MTBHits
-3.45 -3,45 18.Be1 Kg5 19. Bc4 Nf5 20. Ba6 Kh5 21. Ba5 Kh4 22. Bd8 Nd5
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Re: What is the outcome of this unusual endgame

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mwyoung wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:34 am
peter wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:56 pm
Nordlandia wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:53 pm
hgm wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:01 am Evaluation doesn't mean a thing. Engines can evaluate a dead-lost position as +8.5. You would have to play out the game.
Correct. I'll see how it goes.
Had a single game till now with LC0 for Black against Cfish with classical eval (cause I think that to be rather a matter of search but of eval). Both 6men Syzygys, LC0 was running on RTX 3080, Cfish on 24 threads of 12x3GHz Xeon X5670, 4G hash.

[pgn][Event "SCHWARZERBLITZ, Schnellschach 15m+5s"]
[Site "SchwarzerBlitz"]
[Date "2020.11.23"]
[Round "1"]
[White "CF EXT 161120 x64 SSE41 N"]
[Black "Lc0 v0.26.3 Net 715887 syzygy"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "-1.16;-1.18"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/5pk1/4pnp1/3n3p/8/3B4/3B1PP1/6K1 w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "48"]
[TimeControl "900+5"]

{Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5670 @ 2.93GHz 2933 MHz W=45.5 plies; 25.
358kN/s; 116.334.836 TBAs B=15.0 plies; 357kN/s; 222.456 TBAs} 1. Bc1 {[%eval
-116,36] [%emt 0:00:28]} Nb4 {[%eval -118,9] [%emt 0:00:15]} 2. Bc4 {[%eval
-132,34] [%emt 0:00:08]} Nbd5 {[%eval -112,10] [%emt 0:00:27] (Sfd5)} 3. Bd3 {
[%eval -138,39] [%emt 0:00:20] (g3)} Nb4 {[%eval -116,10] [%emt 0:00:18] (Sc3)}
4. Bf1 {[%eval -135,43] [%emt 0:00:52] (Lc4)} Ne4 {[%eval -119,10] [%emt 0:00:
24]} 5. f3 {[%eval -155,43] [%emt 0:00:00] (g3)} Ng3 {[%eval -128,13] [%emt 0:
00:12] (Sc5)} 6. Bb5 {[%eval -163,43] [%emt 0:00:47]} e5 {[%eval -147,19]
[%emt 0:00:15]} 7. Kf2 {[%eval -153,42] [%emt 0:00:03]} h4 {[%eval -148,20]
[%emt 0:00:09] (Sf5)} 8. Bg5 {[%eval -173,48] [%emt 0:00:21]} Nf5 {[%eval -148,
20] [%emt 0:00:01]} 9. Bd2 {[%eval -181,52] [%emt 0:00:18] (Ld7)} Nd6 {[%eval
-165,15] [%emt 0:00:36] (Sd5)} 10. Be2 {[%eval -173,47] [%emt 0:00:17]} Nd5 {
[%eval -167,15] [%emt 0:00:15] (Sc6)} 11. Bf1 {[%eval -189,48] [%emt 0:00:22]
(g3)} Nf4 {[%eval -171,14] [%emt 0:00:37] (Sf5)} 12. g3 {[%eval -161,40] [%emt
0:00:15]} hxg3+ {[%eval -170,14] [%emt 0:00:06]} 13. Kxg3 {[%eval -169,45]
[%emt 0:00:13]} Nf5+ {[%eval -170,13] [%emt 0:00:35] (Kf6)} 14. Kf2 {[%eval
-180,45] [%emt 0:00:12]} Kh7 {[%eval -169,12] [%emt 0:01:01] (Sd4)} 15. Ba6 {
[%eval -196,50] [%emt 0:00:25] (Lc4)} Kh8 {[%eval -177,10] [%emt 0:00:23] (f6)}
16. Bb7 {[%eval -196,56] [%emt 0:00:18] (Lc4)} Kg8 {[%eval -180,10] [%emt 0:00:
18] (Kg7)} 17. Bc3 {[%eval -204,55] [%emt 0:00:45] (La6)} f6 {[%eval -181,11]
[%emt 0:00:11]} 18. Be4 {[%eval -204,60] [%emt 0:00:03] (La6)} Kg7 {[%eval
-178,11] [%emt 0:00:38] (Sd4)} 19. Bb1 {[%eval -212,57] [%emt 0:00:38] (Lb7)}
Nh3+ {[%eval -187,13] [%emt 0:00:11]} 20. Ke2 {[%eval -287,46] [%emt 0:00:25]}
Kh6 {[%eval -219,20] [%emt 0:00:07]} 21. Ba2 {[%eval -302,42] [%emt 0:00:13]}
Nh4 {[%eval -232,21] [%emt 0:00:09] (Kg5)} 22. Ke3 {[%eval -294,48] [%emt 0:00:
27] (Ld2+)} Kg5 {[%eval -298,22] [%emt 0:00:23] (Sf5+)} 23. Bf7 {[%eval -535,
38] [%emt 0:03:26] (La5)} Nf5+ {[%eval -354,20] [%emt 0:00:16]} 24. Ke2 {
[%eval -736,34] [%emt 0:00:18]} Nd6 {[%eval -384,19] [%emt 0:00:02]} 0-1
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I am also finding this position is a win for black. Deep positional analysis shows this is a win for black. Now playing shootouts. The first game has blacking winning again with Stockfish 151120 playing the shootout. Next will be Dragon, then Lc0.

Here is a clip analysis of the current game position with Stockfish playing the shootout.

[d]2B5/6n1/1B1n4/4pp2/3k2p1/6P1/5K2/8 b - - 0 1

New game Line, Shootout (Stockfish15112, Rapid 30min+30
2B5/6n1/1B1n4/4pp2/3k2p1/6P1/5K2/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish 151120:

33...Kd5 34.Ba6 Ne6 35.Kg1 Nd4 36.Kg2 Kc6 37.Bd8 N4b5 38.Kf1 Ne4 39.Bc8 Nxg3+ 40.Kf2 Nd6 41.Be6 Nh5 42.Ke1 Nf4 43.Bb3 Ne4 44.Ba4+ Kc5 45.Be7+ Kd5 46.Bd8 Nd3+ 47.Kf1 f4 48.Bb3+ Kc5 49.Bc2 Kc4 50.Bb1 f3 51.Kg1 Ng3 52.Kh2 Ne2 53.Bh4 Kd4 54.Bxd3
Black is clearly winning: -+ (-10.59) Depth: 36/56 00:00:24 1433MN, tb=2572401
(, 23.11.2020)
Had then 4 more games, one LC0- Cfish again, the fish this time useing NNUE Hybrid with hardware- TC like the first one, two with Dragon for Black's side, one with SF dev, Cfish always having White.
In the pure A-B-Engine- games each of them had 12 threads with 30"+5' to compensate the halving of the threads, Cfish lost all the games as well with classical as with hybrid- eval, all games were about as long as the first one, longest game went 35 moves with GUI set to late give- up instead of early like in first one.
Peter.