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Wilson
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Deep Blue | Down the Rabbit Hole

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I've found this on Reddit, published few days ago.

https://youtu.be/HwF229U2ba8

Deep Blue | Down the Rabbit Hole by Fredrik Knudsen
A 2 hours doc on Deep Blue.

I've yet to see it so can't comment.
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Thank you for this post, I am going to enjoy watching this movie.
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daniel71 wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:59 pm Thank you for this post, I am going to enjoy watching this movie.
Quite good. Came out with more respect for Hsu, less for Ibm. Did not know that Deep blue was programmed to play psychologically.
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duncan wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:25 pm
Did not know that Deep blue was programmed to play psychologically.
Where did you get that from ? :)

As an old-timer, I only learnt in that video (but maybe just don't remember) that the Nxe6 move in the last game was book for Deep Blue.
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ernest wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:36 pm
duncan wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:25 pm
Did not know that Deep blue was programmed to play psychologically.
Where did you get that from ? :)

As an old-timer, I only learnt in that video (but maybe just don't remember) that the Nxe6 move in the last game was book for Deep Blue.
Here it talks about Illescas saying 'we also built in some tricks for Gary ... has a psychological impact'
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duncan wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:03 pm
Here it talks about Illescas saying 'we also built in some tricks for Gary ... has a psychological impact'
Thanks ! I missed that (small) passage... 8-)
BTW, clever way to point to the moment of interest in the youtube video !

Actually, I did not remember that Illescas was so close to the Deep Blue/IBM team (I knew about Benjamin).
And I just found this interesting link :

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Very very good documentary !
Thanks to share !
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It seems that Ibm do not want Deep Blue to play again, for fear it might lose.

Kasparov estimated Deep Blue is 3100 in some positions and 2,300 in others. Which means that if Kasparov had the computer to himself for a few days to investigate all its strengths and weaknesses and played it as is, there is a good chance he would be able to defeat it by targeting its weakness.

Even if there was just a public record of 20 games or so it had played, Kasparov would have had good chances. One of the things I learnt from the video, is how much deep Blue psyched Kasparov out ( who was a good psycher outer himself) when Kasparov thought every sub optimal move or weak move by Deep blue was some diabolical far seeing plot by deep blue and how much this downgraded Kasparov's play.

Of course if the deep blue team had had another year to prepare I believe they could have removed a lot of Deep Blue's weaknesses.
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Deep Blue can play again if they decide to let it play again right.

What about an Kasparov - Deep Blue 25th anniversary match 😃
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Nordlandia wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:11 pm Deep Blue can play again if they decide to let it play again right.

What about an Kasparov - Deep Blue 25th anniversary match 😃
For some silly reason, Ibm seem more concerned about their share price, then a great chess experiment.