The 6502 running at 100 Mhz ?
It does, my old MM5, Polgar, Milano etc. are put in a $50 FPGA card and currently tested again in the German nostalgic forum (Google translation is your friend) where computer enthusiasts are reliving the 80's.
http://rebel13.nl/home/whatever.html
Reliving the 80's at 100 Mhz.
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Reliving the 80's at 100 Mhz.
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Re: Reliving the 80's at 100 Mhz.
The 6502 itself is a historic CPU (link), and as such there are many emulators available for it - link. It originally ran at 1-3 Mhz.
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Re: Reliving the 80's at 100 Mhz.
Interesting.
But is there a software on this fpga-cards that attacks in rappidgames like Shirov?
[d]1r2r1k1/3b1pp1/p1p1n2p/q1b1P3/2PNQ1P1/6BP/BP2RP2/R5K1 w - - 11 32
21.Bb1 ! Qxa1 22.Qh7+ Kf8 23.Nf5 ! 1:0
See the game on video:
But is there a software on this fpga-cards that attacks in rappidgames like Shirov?
[d]1r2r1k1/3b1pp1/p1p1n2p/q1b1P3/2PNQ1P1/6BP/BP2RP2/R5K1 w - - 11 32
21.Bb1 ! Qxa1 22.Qh7+ Kf8 23.Nf5 ! 1:0
See the game on video:
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Re: Reliving the 80's at 100 Mhz.
Hi Ed,
Please can You run latest SF NNUE in Speedy Rating test? thanks in advance
Please can You run latest SF NNUE in Speedy Rating test? thanks in advance
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Re: Reliving the 80's at 100 Mhz.
Hehe, how cool, it is dubbed 65F02...Rebel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:00 am The 6502 running at 100 Mhz ?
It does, my old MM5, Polgar, Milano etc. are put in a $50 FPGA card and currently tested again in the German nostalgic forum (Google translation is your friend) where computer enthusiasts are reliving the 80's.
http://rebel13.nl/home/whatever.html
http://www.e-basteln.de/computing/65f02/65f02/
they aim for an unviversal 6502 socket replacement, but I guess chess is the ultimate application for it.
IIRC the Atari800 emulator ran in turbo mode with 100 MHz too.
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Re: Reliving the 80's at 100 Mhz.
Interesting idea, will do tomorrow.
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Re: Reliving the 80's at 100 Mhz.
Great link, thanks.smatovic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:44 pmHehe, how cool, it is dubbed 65F02...Rebel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:00 am The 6502 running at 100 Mhz ?
It does, my old MM5, Polgar, Milano etc. are put in a $50 FPGA card and currently tested again in the German nostalgic forum (Google translation is your friend) where computer enthusiasts are reliving the 80's.
http://rebel13.nl/home/whatever.html
http://www.e-basteln.de/computing/65f02/65f02/
Yeah, don't you know chess stands for intelligence?they aim for an unviversal 6502 socket replacement, but I guess chess is the ultimate application for it.
Boy wants to ask the hand from the girl's father:
Boy - I want to marry your daughter.
Father - what do you do for a living?
Boy - I play chess.
Father - oh great, you have my permission.
IIRC the Atari800 emulator ran in turbo mode with 100 MHz too.
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Re: Reliving the 80's at 100 Mhz.
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EPD : epd\lc1.epd
Time : 1000ms
Max Time Hash
Engine Points Used Time Found Pos Elo Score Score ms Mb Cpu Errors
1 Stockfish-NNUE 337741 11:34:00.9 24957 40000 3377 400000 84.44% 1000 128 1 0
2 Stockfish 11 324287 11:30:00.8 23191 40000 3242 400000 81.07% 1000 128 1 0
3 Komodo 14 317110 11:09:21.4 22398 40000 3171 400000 79.28% 1000 128 1 0
4 Houdini 6.03 314596 11:27:54.8 22218 40000 3146 400000 78.65% 1000 128 1 0
5 SlowChess 2.2 313139 10:30:56.4 21860 40000 3131 400000 78.28% 1000 128 1 0
6 Ethereal 12.25 312493 11:30:24.1 21959 40000 3124 400000 78.12% 1000 128 1 0
7 rofChade 2.3 309642 11:24:20.2 21587 40000 3096 400000 77.41% 1000 128 1 41
8 SlowChess 2.1 309590 10:31:56.2 21595 40000 3096 400000 77.40% 1000 128 1 0
9 Ethereal 12 309088 11:30:20.9 21840 40000 3090 400000 77.27% 1000 128 1 0
10 Laser 1.7 308178 11:29:30.5 21320 40000 3081 400000 77.04% 1000 128 1 0
11 Schooner 2.2 306808 10:22:01.9 21335 40000 3068 400000 76.70% 1000 128 1 0
12 Xiphos 0.6 306796 10:03:55.9 21333 40000 3068 400000 76.70% 1000 128 1 0
13 RubiChess 1.7.2 305900 11:26:03.9 21215 40000 3059 400000 76.48% 1000 128 1 0
14 Booot 6.4 305082 12:56:19.6 21267 40000 3050 400000 76.27% 1000 128 1 124
15 Defenchess 2.2 303754 10:12:00.7 21208 40000 3037 400000 75.94% 1000 128 1 41
16 Andscacs 0.95 301560 12:10:30.8 20745 40000 3015 400000 75.39% 1005 128 1 41
17 Shredder 13 300619 11:28:47.0 20946 40000 3006 400000 75.15% 1000 128 1 0
18 Wasp 4.00 299925 11:45:50.1 20727 40000 2999 400000 74.98% 1000 128 1 0
19 Senpai 2 299279 11:36:50.5 20615 40000 2992 400000 74.82% 1000 128 1 42
20 Arasan 22 298663 11:27:32.7 20460 40000 2986 400000 74.67% 1000 128 1 0
21 ice 4.0 297995 11:49:51.1 20767 40000 2980 400000 74.50% 1000 128 1 0
22 Critter 1.6 297939 11:38:55.1 20654 40000 2979 400000 74.48% 1000 128 1 22
23 Fire 7.1 296996 11:26:35.7 20356 40000 2970 400000 74.25% 1000 128 1 0
24 Vajolet 2.8 296269 11:25:51.6 20327 40000 2962 400000 74.07% 1000 128 1 0
25 Demolito 200514 295686 10:53:58.5 20429 40000 2956 400000 73.92% 1000 128 1 0
26 igel 2.50 294457 11:29:26.8 20369 40000 2944 400000 73.61% 1000 128 1 0
27 Wasp 3.75 293908 11:44:35.3 20203 40000 2939 400000 73.48% 1000 128 1 0
28 Gogobello 2.2 293824 11:44:24.1 20296 40000 2938 400000 73.46% 1000 128 1 41
29 igel 2.40 293056 11:28:38.5 20261 40000 2930 400000 73.26% 1000 128 1 41
30 Nemorino 5.00 291649 10:05:27.4 19882 40000 2916 400000 72.91% 1000 128 1 41
31 Rodent 4 291647 11:45:03.3 19774 40000 2916 400000 72.91% 1000 128 1 0
32 Winter 0.8 291596 10:02:03.0 20057 40000 2916 400000 72.90% 1000 128 1 41
33 Hannibal 1.7 291446 11:39:04.6 19985 40000 2914 400000 72.86% 1000 128 1 0
34 Combusken 1.2 291389 12:25:31.9 19902 40000 2914 400000 72.85% 1000 128 1 41
35 Texel 1.7 291164 11:27:40.3 20064 40000 2911 400000 72.79% 1000 128 1 0
36 Monolith 2 290807 11:31:27.5 19972 40000 2908 400000 72.70% 1000 128 1 0
37 Topple 0.7.5 290649 12:13:57.0 19696 40000 2906 400000 72.66% 1000 128 1 0
38 Deuterium 2019 290578 11:31:42.7 19819 40000 2905 400000 72.64% 1000 128 1 0
39 Chiron 4 290250 11:46:17.8 19978 40000 2902 400000 72.56% 1000 128 1 0
40 Godel 7.0 290222 12:52:57.9 19758 40000 2902 400000 72.56% 1000 128 1 42
41 Amoeba 3.1 289712 09:40:26.2 19682 40000 2897 400000 72.43% 1000 128 1 0
42 Minic 2.32 289394 11:01:03.5 19880 40000 2894 400000 72.35% 1000 128 1 0
43 FabChess 1.15 289296 11:50:40.2 19849 40000 2892 400000 72.32% 1000 128 1 41
44 sting-sf-21 288904 11:31:56.3 19905 40000 2889 400000 72.23% 1000 128 1 0
45 Marvin 3.60 288732 10:48:52.8 19848 40000 2887 400000 72.18% 1000 128 1 41
46 Minic 2.25 287730 10:54:48.6 19780 40000 2877 400000 71.93% 1000 128 1 0
47 Bobcat 8 287527 10:54:11.9 19486 40000 2875 400000 71.88% 1000 128 1 0
48 Invictus r305 285355 10:16:08.6 19227 40000 2853 400000 71.34% 1000 128 1 0
49 Counter 3.5 285137 11:25:20.1 19329 40000 2851 400000 71.28% 1000 128 1 0
50 Weiss 1.0 284693 11:23:14.3 19241 40000 2846 400000 71.17% 1000 128 1 0
51 Asymptote 0.8 284305 12:19:43.9 19245 40000 2843 400000 71.08% 1000 128 1 41
52 Weiss 0.10 281037 11:06:09.2 18927 40000 2810 400000 70.26% 1000 128 1 0
53 Tucano 8.0 280426 04:46:55.0 18777 40000 2804 400000 70.11% 1000 128 1 0
54 RuyDos 1.1.11 278666 10:25:44.5 18567 40000 2786 400000 69.67% 1000 128 1 0
55 Cheese 2.1 277252 11:28:33.3 18763 40000 2772 400000 69.31% 1000 128 1 0
56 GreKo 2020.03 276482 11:29:35.7 18694 40000 2764 400000 69.12% 1000 128 1 0
57 Fruit 2.3 275618 11:30:55.1 18270 40000 2756 400000 68.90% 1000 128 1 0
58 ProDeo 2.2 273793 11:29:46.3 18263 40000 2738 400000 68.45% 1000 128 1 0
59 Benjamin 271801 11:29:55.8 17985 40000 2718 400000 67.95% 1000 128 1 0
60 Fridolin 3.10 271357 11:40:42.9 18030 40000 2713 400000 67.84% 1000 128 1 0
61 Fruit 2.1 270830 11:29:45.7 17982 40000 2708 400000 67.71% 1000 128 1 0
62 Devel 3.0.0b 269433 12:22:53.0 17986 40000 2694 400000 67.36% 1000 128 1 65
63 Orion 0.6 268120 11:31:45.3 17895 40000 2681 400000 67.03% 1000 128 1 41
64 Ruffian 2 265592 11:13:01.7 17740 40000 2656 400000 66.40% 1000 128 1 0
65 Stash 18.0 253693 11:10:20.4 16848 40000 2536 400000 63.42% 1000 128 1 0
66 CT800 1.40 253449 10:45:20.4 16533 40000 2534 400000 63.36% 1000 128 1 0
67 Stash 17.0 250114 11:11:49.7 16549 40000 2501 400000 62.53% 1000 128 1 0
68 Stash 16.0 249149 11:10:56.4 16461 40000 2491 400000 62.29% 1000 128 1 0
69 Ares 005-2 243380 04:42:01.1 15937 40000 2433 400000 60.84% 1000 128 1 0
70 FoxSee 3.3.3 240244 11:08:18.3 15505 40000 2402 400000 60.06% 1000 128 1 0
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Re: Reliving the 80's at 100 Mhz.
Will you be updating the speedy rating list on your website?Rebel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:52 pmI used the one from my website.Code: Select all
EPD : epd\lc1.epd Time : 1000ms Max Time Hash Engine Points Used Time Found Pos Elo Score Score ms Mb Cpu Errors 1 Stockfish-NNUE 337741 11:34:00.9 24957 40000 3377 400000 84.44% 1000 128 1 0 2 Stockfish 11 324287 11:30:00.8 23191 40000 3242 400000 81.07% 1000 128 1 0 3 Komodo 14 317110 11:09:21.4 22398 40000 3171 400000 79.28% 1000 128 1 0 4 Houdini 6.03 314596 11:27:54.8 22218 40000 3146 400000 78.65% 1000 128 1 0 5 SlowChess 2.2 313139 10:30:56.4 21860 40000 3131 400000 78.28% 1000 128 1 0 6 Ethereal 12.25 312493 11:30:24.1 21959 40000 3124 400000 78.12% 1000 128 1 0 7 rofChade 2.3 309642 11:24:20.2 21587 40000 3096 400000 77.41% 1000 128 1 41 8 SlowChess 2.1 309590 10:31:56.2 21595 40000 3096 400000 77.40% 1000 128 1 0 9 Ethereal 12 309088 11:30:20.9 21840 40000 3090 400000 77.27% 1000 128 1 0 10 Laser 1.7 308178 11:29:30.5 21320 40000 3081 400000 77.04% 1000 128 1 0 11 Schooner 2.2 306808 10:22:01.9 21335 40000 3068 400000 76.70% 1000 128 1 0 12 Xiphos 0.6 306796 10:03:55.9 21333 40000 3068 400000 76.70% 1000 128 1 0 13 RubiChess 1.7.2 305900 11:26:03.9 21215 40000 3059 400000 76.48% 1000 128 1 0 14 Booot 6.4 305082 12:56:19.6 21267 40000 3050 400000 76.27% 1000 128 1 124 15 Defenchess 2.2 303754 10:12:00.7 21208 40000 3037 400000 75.94% 1000 128 1 41 16 Andscacs 0.95 301560 12:10:30.8 20745 40000 3015 400000 75.39% 1005 128 1 41 17 Shredder 13 300619 11:28:47.0 20946 40000 3006 400000 75.15% 1000 128 1 0 18 Wasp 4.00 299925 11:45:50.1 20727 40000 2999 400000 74.98% 1000 128 1 0 19 Senpai 2 299279 11:36:50.5 20615 40000 2992 400000 74.82% 1000 128 1 42 20 Arasan 22 298663 11:27:32.7 20460 40000 2986 400000 74.67% 1000 128 1 0 21 ice 4.0 297995 11:49:51.1 20767 40000 2980 400000 74.50% 1000 128 1 0 22 Critter 1.6 297939 11:38:55.1 20654 40000 2979 400000 74.48% 1000 128 1 22 23 Fire 7.1 296996 11:26:35.7 20356 40000 2970 400000 74.25% 1000 128 1 0 24 Vajolet 2.8 296269 11:25:51.6 20327 40000 2962 400000 74.07% 1000 128 1 0 25 Demolito 200514 295686 10:53:58.5 20429 40000 2956 400000 73.92% 1000 128 1 0 26 igel 2.50 294457 11:29:26.8 20369 40000 2944 400000 73.61% 1000 128 1 0 27 Wasp 3.75 293908 11:44:35.3 20203 40000 2939 400000 73.48% 1000 128 1 0 28 Gogobello 2.2 293824 11:44:24.1 20296 40000 2938 400000 73.46% 1000 128 1 41 29 igel 2.40 293056 11:28:38.5 20261 40000 2930 400000 73.26% 1000 128 1 41 30 Nemorino 5.00 291649 10:05:27.4 19882 40000 2916 400000 72.91% 1000 128 1 41 31 Rodent 4 291647 11:45:03.3 19774 40000 2916 400000 72.91% 1000 128 1 0 32 Winter 0.8 291596 10:02:03.0 20057 40000 2916 400000 72.90% 1000 128 1 41 33 Hannibal 1.7 291446 11:39:04.6 19985 40000 2914 400000 72.86% 1000 128 1 0 34 Combusken 1.2 291389 12:25:31.9 19902 40000 2914 400000 72.85% 1000 128 1 41 35 Texel 1.7 291164 11:27:40.3 20064 40000 2911 400000 72.79% 1000 128 1 0 36 Monolith 2 290807 11:31:27.5 19972 40000 2908 400000 72.70% 1000 128 1 0 37 Topple 0.7.5 290649 12:13:57.0 19696 40000 2906 400000 72.66% 1000 128 1 0 38 Deuterium 2019 290578 11:31:42.7 19819 40000 2905 400000 72.64% 1000 128 1 0 39 Chiron 4 290250 11:46:17.8 19978 40000 2902 400000 72.56% 1000 128 1 0 40 Godel 7.0 290222 12:52:57.9 19758 40000 2902 400000 72.56% 1000 128 1 42 41 Amoeba 3.1 289712 09:40:26.2 19682 40000 2897 400000 72.43% 1000 128 1 0 42 Minic 2.32 289394 11:01:03.5 19880 40000 2894 400000 72.35% 1000 128 1 0 43 FabChess 1.15 289296 11:50:40.2 19849 40000 2892 400000 72.32% 1000 128 1 41 44 sting-sf-21 288904 11:31:56.3 19905 40000 2889 400000 72.23% 1000 128 1 0 45 Marvin 3.60 288732 10:48:52.8 19848 40000 2887 400000 72.18% 1000 128 1 41 46 Minic 2.25 287730 10:54:48.6 19780 40000 2877 400000 71.93% 1000 128 1 0 47 Bobcat 8 287527 10:54:11.9 19486 40000 2875 400000 71.88% 1000 128 1 0 48 Invictus r305 285355 10:16:08.6 19227 40000 2853 400000 71.34% 1000 128 1 0 49 Counter 3.5 285137 11:25:20.1 19329 40000 2851 400000 71.28% 1000 128 1 0 50 Weiss 1.0 284693 11:23:14.3 19241 40000 2846 400000 71.17% 1000 128 1 0 51 Asymptote 0.8 284305 12:19:43.9 19245 40000 2843 400000 71.08% 1000 128 1 41 52 Weiss 0.10 281037 11:06:09.2 18927 40000 2810 400000 70.26% 1000 128 1 0 53 Tucano 8.0 280426 04:46:55.0 18777 40000 2804 400000 70.11% 1000 128 1 0 54 RuyDos 1.1.11 278666 10:25:44.5 18567 40000 2786 400000 69.67% 1000 128 1 0 55 Cheese 2.1 277252 11:28:33.3 18763 40000 2772 400000 69.31% 1000 128 1 0 56 GreKo 2020.03 276482 11:29:35.7 18694 40000 2764 400000 69.12% 1000 128 1 0 57 Fruit 2.3 275618 11:30:55.1 18270 40000 2756 400000 68.90% 1000 128 1 0 58 ProDeo 2.2 273793 11:29:46.3 18263 40000 2738 400000 68.45% 1000 128 1 0 59 Benjamin 271801 11:29:55.8 17985 40000 2718 400000 67.95% 1000 128 1 0 60 Fridolin 3.10 271357 11:40:42.9 18030 40000 2713 400000 67.84% 1000 128 1 0 61 Fruit 2.1 270830 11:29:45.7 17982 40000 2708 400000 67.71% 1000 128 1 0 62 Devel 3.0.0b 269433 12:22:53.0 17986 40000 2694 400000 67.36% 1000 128 1 65 63 Orion 0.6 268120 11:31:45.3 17895 40000 2681 400000 67.03% 1000 128 1 41 64 Ruffian 2 265592 11:13:01.7 17740 40000 2656 400000 66.40% 1000 128 1 0 65 Stash 18.0 253693 11:10:20.4 16848 40000 2536 400000 63.42% 1000 128 1 0 66 CT800 1.40 253449 10:45:20.4 16533 40000 2534 400000 63.36% 1000 128 1 0 67 Stash 17.0 250114 11:11:49.7 16549 40000 2501 400000 62.53% 1000 128 1 0 68 Stash 16.0 249149 11:10:56.4 16461 40000 2491 400000 62.29% 1000 128 1 0 69 Ares 005-2 243380 04:42:01.1 15937 40000 2433 400000 60.84% 1000 128 1 0 70 FoxSee 3.3.3 240244 11:08:18.3 15505 40000 2402 400000 60.06% 1000 128 1 0