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Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:06 am**

https://www.mediafire.com/file/qsxolqqf ... 2.pgn/file

SFNNUE 27-6 net. Latest binaries
SFdev from 10 june
Both 1 thread and 128MB hash. Rest default.
Time control: 120s + 1.2s
Hardware: i5-10400
Books: HERT 500
Chess Interface: cutechess GUI
Results:
Score of NNUE vs stockfish10june2020: 178 - 92 - 730 [0.543]
Elo difference: 29.95 +/- 11.11

[pgn][Round "62"]
[White "NNUE"]
[Black "stockfish10june2020"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C18"]
[Opening "French"]
[PlyCount "153"]
[TimeControl "120+1.2"]
[Variation "Winawer, Advance Variation"]

1. e4 {book} e6 {book} 2. d4 {book} d5 {book} 3. Nc3 {book} Bb4 {book}
4. e5 {book} c5 {book} 5. a3 {book} Bxc3+ {book} 6. bxc3 {book} Qa5 {book}
7. Bd2 {+0.43/24 3.7s} Qa4 {-0.08/25 8.6s} 8. Qb1 {+0.48/24 2.9s}
a6 {-0.09/26 7.2s} 9. Nf3 {+0.73/23 3.0s} Nd7 {-0.27/26 7.3s}
10. Be2 {+0.60/23 7.8s} Ne7 {-0.33/22 1.1s} 11. h4 {+0.87/21 1.8s}
h6 {-0.33/21 3.1s} 12. h5 {+0.86/21 2.5s} Qc6 {-0.25/25 5.2s}
13. Rh4 {+0.95/21 2.1s} Nf5 {0.00/23 2.1s} 14. Rg4 {+1.25/21 2.8s}
O-O {0.00/23 2.4s} 15. Qc1 {+1.40/22 2.6s} Kh7 {-1.25/27 16s}
16. Rf4 {+1.45/22 3.9s} b6 {-1.01/23 4.1s} 17. g4 {+2.11/24 4.5s}
Ne7 {-0.92/22 2.3s} 18. Bd3+ {+2.53/23 3.8s} Kh8 {-1.18/27 9.5s}
19. Rf6 {+4.10/25 5.1s} Nxf6 {-3.36/26 4.0s} 20. exf6 {+3.91/24 2.4s}
e5 {-3.21/26 2.0s} 21. fxe7 {+3.99/25 2.0s} Re8 {-3.17/25 3.6s}
22. Nxe5 {+4.16/24 2.0s} Rxe7 {-3.58/32 21s} 23. Be2 {+4.08/24 2.8s}
Qe6 {-3.59/24 1.2s} 24. Bf4 {+4.18/24 3.6s} Kg8 {-2.95/22 1.7s}
25. Qe3 {+4.15/23 2.5s} Re8 {-3.02/25 7.2s} 26. Kd2 {+4.49/24 6.1s}
f6 {-3.12/24 6.6s} 27. Ng6 {+4.34/23 2.6s} Qd7 {-3.36/24 2.4s}
28. Qd3 {+4.67/21 2.0s} c4 {-3.44/26 8.3s} 29. Qg3 {+4.76/24 4.0s}
Ra7 {-3.58/27 5.1s} 30. Rg1 {+4.76/25 3.5s} Qa4 {-2.70/21 1.4s}
31. Bf3 {+5.38/24 2.7s} Qc6 {-3.20/28 5.6s} 32. Re1 {+5.48/23 2.6s}
Rxe1 {-3.23/24 0.94s} 33. Kxe1 {+5.55/23 2.4s} Kf7 {-3.57/23 2.3s}
34. Kd2 {+6.23/23 2.8s} Ke8 {-4.60/24 3.2s} 35. Bg2 {+6.10/21 3.0s}
Qd7 {-4.15/25 2.4s} 36. Be3 {+6.58/22 2.4s} Qc6 {-4.37/24 0.78s}
37. f4 {+6.55/24 3.2s} Qd6 {-4.46/22 1.0s} 38. Qf3 {+6.67/23 2.5s}
Be6 {-4.70/25 4.3s} 39. g5 {+6.73/25 2.7s} f5 {-4.65/19 0.38s}
40. Qg3 {+6.80/26 4.7s} Bc8 {-4.83/23 2.0s} 41. Bf3 {+6.77/24 2.5s}
Rc7 {-5.00/23 1.8s} 42. Qg2 {+7.85/26 2.3s} Bb7 {-4.85/22 0.33s}
43. gxh6 {+8.97/26 2.0s} gxh6 {-4.16/21 0.42s} 44. Nh4 {+9.10/25 2.0s}
Rf7 {-5.46/25 1.2s} 45. Qg8+ {+9.56/25 3.3s} Rf8 {-5.27/27 0.91s}
46. Qh7 {+9.53/25 2.2s} Rf7 {-6.59/24 1.6s} 47. Qh8+ {+9.77/24 2.2s}
Rf8 {-6.75/23 0.56s} 48. Qe5+ {+10.05/25 3.8s} Qxe5 {-6.78/24 1.3s}
49. dxe5 {+10.23/25 2.9s} Kd7 {-7.69/26 4.4s} 50. Bxb6 {+10.38/24 2.1s}
Kc6 {-7.98/25 1.7s} 51. Ba5 {+10.83/23 2.4s} Rf7 {-8.03/20 0.14s}
52. Ke3 {+11.33/21 1.9s} Bc8 {-8.20/23 1.9s} 53. Kd4 {+11.77/24 3.1s}
Be6 {-8.35/20 0.26s} 54. Ng6 {+11.83/23 2.8s} Rg7 {-9.16/23 2.5s}
55. Bb4 {+11.96/24 2.2s} a5 {-9.44/21 0.46s} 56. Bxa5 {+12.54/24 2.9s}
Bg8 {-8.94/20 1.8s} 57. Bb4 {+12.52/24 2.6s} Be6 {-10.04/23 1.3s}
58. Bc5 {+12.94/24 2.4s} Rb7 {-9.92/18 0.60s} 59. Nf8 {+13.34/24 2.3s}
Bg8 {-10.63/22 0.93s} 60. Bb4 {+13.42/23 2.0s} Bf7 {-10.88/26 1.1s}
61. e6 {+14.28/25 1.8s} Be8 {-16.19/25 1.1s} 62. Bxd5+ {+15.15/24 1.9s}
Kc7 {-59.17/26 0.82s} 63. Bxb7 {+15.54/25 2.0s} Kxb7 {-154.14/37 2.6s}
64. Ng6 {+15.72/23 2.3s} Ka7 {-33.90/21 1.5s} 65. Ke5 {+16.83/24 2.1s}
Kb6 {-9.35/18 0.18s} 66. Kxf5 {+M31/38 1.8s} Kb7 {-60.90/22 1.8s}
67. Ke5 {+M21/57 1.7s} Kb6 {-60.90/23 0.42s} 68. f5 {+M19/58 1.8s}
Ba4 {-M20/27 0.83s} 69. f6 {+M17/59 1.6s} Bxc2 {-M16/33 0.46s}
70. e7 {+M15/61 1.6s} Ba4 {-M14/51 0.33s} 71. f7 {+M13/68 1.7s}
Bc6 {-M12/59 0.41s} 72. e8=Q {+M11/71 1.5s} Bxe8 {-M10/76 0.43s}
73. fxe8=Q {+M9/126 1.5s} Ka6 {-M8/178 0.49s} 74. Qc6+ {+M7/245 0.93s}
Ka7 {-M6/10 0s} 75. Qb5 {+M5/245 0.012s} Ka8 {-M4/23 0s}
76. Qa6+ {+M3/245 0.005s} Kb8 {-M2/15 0s} 77. Bd6# {+M1/245 0.004s, White mates}[/pgn]

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:12 am**

Binary + net can be downloaded from here:

https://workupload.com/file/ggEUrvNVgmH

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:14 am**

Raphexon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:12 am Binary + net can be downloaded from here:

https://workupload.com/file/ggEUrvNVgmH

I have a Linux system. Are there build instructions for this engine anywhere?

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:26 am**

zullil wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:14 am
Raphexon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:12 am Binary + net can be downloaded from here:

https://workupload.com/file/ggEUrvNVgmH
I have a Linux system. Are there build instructions for this engine anywhere?

Nodchip's repo contains all the needed code to compile the binary.
Net is still can still be had from the previous link.
https://github.com/nodchip/Stockfish/bl ... c/Makefile

Profile nnue is the one you want.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:47 am**

Raphexon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:26 am
zullil wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:14 am
Raphexon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:12 am Binary + net can be downloaded from here:

https://workupload.com/file/ggEUrvNVgmH
I have a Linux system. Are there build instructions for this engine anywhere?
Nodchip's repo contains all the needed code to compile the binary.
Net is still can still be had from the previous link.
https://github.com/nodchip/Stockfish/bl ... c/Makefile

Profile nnue is the one you want.

Thanks. It would be very helpful if info about nnue were added to the Makefile's help target.

(Or to the Readme.)

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:08 pm**

Raphexon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:06 am https://www.mediafire.com/file/qsxolqqf ... 2.pgn/file

SFNNUE 27-6 net. Latest binaries
SFdev from 10 june
Both 1 thread and 128MB hash. Rest default.
Time control: 120s + 1.2s
Hardware: i5-10400
Books: HERT 500
Chess Interface: cutechess GUI
Results:
Score of NNUE vs stockfish10june2020: 178 - 92 - 730 [0.543]
Elo difference: 29.95 +/- 11.11

[pgn][Round "62"]
[White "NNUE"]
[Black "stockfish10june2020"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C18"]
[Opening "French"]
[PlyCount "153"]
[TimeControl "120+1.2"]
[Variation "Winawer, Advance Variation"]

1. e4 {book} e6 {book} 2. d4 {book} d5 {book} 3. Nc3 {book} Bb4 {book}
4. e5 {book} c5 {book} 5. a3 {book} Bxc3+ {book} 6. bxc3 {book} Qa5 {book}
7. Bd2 {+0.43/24 3.7s} Qa4 {-0.08/25 8.6s} 8. Qb1 {+0.48/24 2.9s}
a6 {-0.09/26 7.2s} 9. Nf3 {+0.73/23 3.0s} Nd7 {-0.27/26 7.3s}
10. Be2 {+0.60/23 7.8s} Ne7 {-0.33/22 1.1s} 11. h4 {+0.87/21 1.8s}
h6 {-0.33/21 3.1s} 12. h5 {+0.86/21 2.5s} Qc6 {-0.25/25 5.2s}
13. Rh4 {+0.95/21 2.1s} Nf5 {0.00/23 2.1s} 14. Rg4 {+1.25/21 2.8s}
O-O {0.00/23 2.4s} 15. Qc1 {+1.40/22 2.6s} Kh7 {-1.25/27 16s}
16. Rf4 {+1.45/22 3.9s} b6 {-1.01/23 4.1s} 17. g4 {+2.11/24 4.5s}
Ne7 {-0.92/22 2.3s} 18. Bd3+ {+2.53/23 3.8s} Kh8 {-1.18/27 9.5s}
19. Rf6 {+4.10/25 5.1s} Nxf6 {-3.36/26 4.0s} 20. exf6 {+3.91/24 2.4s}
e5 {-3.21/26 2.0s} 21. fxe7 {+3.99/25 2.0s} Re8 {-3.17/25 3.6s}
22. Nxe5 {+4.16/24 2.0s} Rxe7 {-3.58/32 21s} 23. Be2 {+4.08/24 2.8s}
Qe6 {-3.59/24 1.2s} 24. Bf4 {+4.18/24 3.6s} Kg8 {-2.95/22 1.7s}
25. Qe3 {+4.15/23 2.5s} Re8 {-3.02/25 7.2s} 26. Kd2 {+4.49/24 6.1s}
f6 {-3.12/24 6.6s} 27. Ng6 {+4.34/23 2.6s} Qd7 {-3.36/24 2.4s}
28. Qd3 {+4.67/21 2.0s} c4 {-3.44/26 8.3s} 29. Qg3 {+4.76/24 4.0s}
Ra7 {-3.58/27 5.1s} 30. Rg1 {+4.76/25 3.5s} Qa4 {-2.70/21 1.4s}
31. Bf3 {+5.38/24 2.7s} Qc6 {-3.20/28 5.6s} 32. Re1 {+5.48/23 2.6s}
Rxe1 {-3.23/24 0.94s} 33. Kxe1 {+5.55/23 2.4s} Kf7 {-3.57/23 2.3s}
34. Kd2 {+6.23/23 2.8s} Ke8 {-4.60/24 3.2s} 35. Bg2 {+6.10/21 3.0s}
Qd7 {-4.15/25 2.4s} 36. Be3 {+6.58/22 2.4s} Qc6 {-4.37/24 0.78s}
37. f4 {+6.55/24 3.2s} Qd6 {-4.46/22 1.0s} 38. Qf3 {+6.67/23 2.5s}
Be6 {-4.70/25 4.3s} 39. g5 {+6.73/25 2.7s} f5 {-4.65/19 0.38s}
40. Qg3 {+6.80/26 4.7s} Bc8 {-4.83/23 2.0s} 41. Bf3 {+6.77/24 2.5s}
Rc7 {-5.00/23 1.8s} 42. Qg2 {+7.85/26 2.3s} Bb7 {-4.85/22 0.33s}
43. gxh6 {+8.97/26 2.0s} gxh6 {-4.16/21 0.42s} 44. Nh4 {+9.10/25 2.0s}
Rf7 {-5.46/25 1.2s} 45. Qg8+ {+9.56/25 3.3s} Rf8 {-5.27/27 0.91s}
46. Qh7 {+9.53/25 2.2s} Rf7 {-6.59/24 1.6s} 47. Qh8+ {+9.77/24 2.2s}
Rf8 {-6.75/23 0.56s} 48. Qe5+ {+10.05/25 3.8s} Qxe5 {-6.78/24 1.3s}
49. dxe5 {+10.23/25 2.9s} Kd7 {-7.69/26 4.4s} 50. Bxb6 {+10.38/24 2.1s}
Kc6 {-7.98/25 1.7s} 51. Ba5 {+10.83/23 2.4s} Rf7 {-8.03/20 0.14s}
52. Ke3 {+11.33/21 1.9s} Bc8 {-8.20/23 1.9s} 53. Kd4 {+11.77/24 3.1s}
Be6 {-8.35/20 0.26s} 54. Ng6 {+11.83/23 2.8s} Rg7 {-9.16/23 2.5s}
55. Bb4 {+11.96/24 2.2s} a5 {-9.44/21 0.46s} 56. Bxa5 {+12.54/24 2.9s}
Bg8 {-8.94/20 1.8s} 57. Bb4 {+12.52/24 2.6s} Be6 {-10.04/23 1.3s}
58. Bc5 {+12.94/24 2.4s} Rb7 {-9.92/18 0.60s} 59. Nf8 {+13.34/24 2.3s}
Bg8 {-10.63/22 0.93s} 60. Bb4 {+13.42/23 2.0s} Bf7 {-10.88/26 1.1s}
61. e6 {+14.28/25 1.8s} Be8 {-16.19/25 1.1s} 62. Bxd5+ {+15.15/24 1.9s}
Kc7 {-59.17/26 0.82s} 63. Bxb7 {+15.54/25 2.0s} Kxb7 {-154.14/37 2.6s}
64. Ng6 {+15.72/23 2.3s} Ka7 {-33.90/21 1.5s} 65. Ke5 {+16.83/24 2.1s}
Kb6 {-9.35/18 0.18s} 66. Kxf5 {+M31/38 1.8s} Kb7 {-60.90/22 1.8s}
67. Ke5 {+M21/57 1.7s} Kb6 {-60.90/23 0.42s} 68. f5 {+M19/58 1.8s}
Ba4 {-M20/27 0.83s} 69. f6 {+M17/59 1.6s} Bxc2 {-M16/33 0.46s}
70. e7 {+M15/61 1.6s} Ba4 {-M14/51 0.33s} 71. f7 {+M13/68 1.7s}
Bc6 {-M12/59 0.41s} 72. e8=Q {+M11/71 1.5s} Bxe8 {-M10/76 0.43s}
73. fxe8=Q {+M9/126 1.5s} Ka6 {-M8/178 0.49s} 74. Qc6+ {+M7/245 0.93s}
Ka7 {-M6/10 0s} 75. Qb5 {+M5/245 0.012s} Ka8 {-M4/23 0s}
76. Qa6+ {+M3/245 0.005s} Kb8 {-M2/15 0s} 77. Bd6# {+M1/245 0.004s, White mates}[/pgn]

I ran a similar test, at 3' + 3", 1 one thread, July 6 SF, 5 GHz i7, Hert 250 lowdraw book, +31 elo after 292 games, confirming your result.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:29 pm**

I am probably going to need some help submitting NNUE as patch on test.stockfishchess.

Or maybe somebody else wants to do it.
Main difficulty for me is getting nn.bin from the github repo to the right place so I can just issue a standard UCI command for the test.

https://github.com/gekkehenker/Stockfish

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:11 pm**

Congratulations! Is really very strong, stronger than regular Stockfish. I'm doing a little test at 5 minutes + 2 seconds and is wining also, like the other tests published here.

Posted: **Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:24 am**

Played a quick 100 games match, will play more later.

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Score of sf11 vs henk: 20 - 36 - 44  [0.420] 100
...      sf11 playing White: 14 - 11 - 25  [0.530] 50
...      sf11 playing Black: 6 - 25 - 19  [0.310] 50
...      White vs Black: 39 - 17 - 44  [0.610] 100
Elo difference: -56.1 +/- 51.4, LOS: 1.6 %, DrawRatio: 44.0 %
Finished match

Excellent result and without becoming a patron

Even more impressive considering the NPS

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SF11 bench NPS 1.2 million
Henk bench NPS 578.559

Depth overview

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Engine                 Depth       Time   Games     Moves  Average Forfeit  Book Depth     MIDG   EARLY    ENDG    LATE
sf11                   22.48    1:03:03     100      7282    0.52     0      826  8.26    18.74 | 18.92 | 21.82 | 30.99
henk                   21.37    1:02:53     100      7279    0.52     0      795  7.95    17.29 | 17.20 | 20.06 | 31.48

One thing, the sim-test crashes, is it possible to fix this? The similarity with the Lc0 related nets would be interesting.

Posted: **Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:20 pm**

2000 40m/20s games

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Score of henk vs sf11: 621 - 433 - 946  [0.547] 2000
...      henk playing White: 381 - 150 - 469  [0.616] 1000
...      henk playing Black: 240 - 283 - 477  [0.478] 1000
...      White vs Black: 664 - 390 - 946  [0.569] 2000
Elo difference: 32.8 +/- 11.0, LOS: 100.0 %, DrawRatio: 47.3 %
Finished match

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