Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

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Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

Post by Thomas Lagershausen »

After we have a uci of the famous Sargon 1978, what about the SciSys Mark V (worldchampion of Travemünde 1981) by David Broughton and Mark Taylor?

http://www.chesscomputeruk.com/html/che ... story.html

Can a pc run a programm of the authors?

Maybe Cyrus 68K ?

https://www.chessprogramming.org/Cyrus_68K

Or a emulated rom of the SciSys MARK V?

A uci version of this legend would be a dream to analyze old games. 8-)
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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

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Would be nice to see mkvi, that was transferred as emulation, into uci.

Also cyrus 68000, the successor on better hardware.

Those b strategy programs are interesting to play against.
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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

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Hi all,

This is available on MAME and the DGT Pi / Picochess:

SAITEK / SciSys
=============== Freq. ROM RAM
Module Year Chess computer Bit CPU MHz kB kB Program author Elo
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
^ccmk5 1981 Chess Champion Mark V 8 6502 2 32 16 [ D.Broughton 1465

[ccmk5]
name = Scisys Chess Champion MK5
small = Sccmk5
medium = S CCMK5
large = Sci CCh MK5
elo = 1465

pi@MAME:/opt/picochess/engines/armv7l-MAME $ ./ccmk5
uci
id name Chess Champion: Mark V (mess 0.221)
option name Speed type spin default 100 min 0 max 10000
option name Level type string default 10
uciok
quit
Average speed: 100.00% (43 seconds)
pi@MAME:/opt/picochess/engines/armv7l-MAME $


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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

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Hi,

you can use more than 250 old chess computer programs (also MK V) with CB-Emu_Pro from my website:
https://fhub.jimdofree.com/

It also includes a special version 'MessChess' which allows to run all those programs in any
chess GUI which supports the WB or UCI protocol (e.g. WinBoard, Arena, Hiarcs, Shredder, ...)

Regards,
Franz
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I'd just like to make a comment here: For those unfamiliar with Franz's work, it really is incredible.
You can play (almost) all the old dedicated machines and they feel like the original units.

Outstanding work.
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Werewolf wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 7:49 pm I'd just like to make a comment here: For those unfamiliar with Franz's work, it really is incredible.
You can play (almost) all the old dedicated machines and they feel like the original units.

Outstanding work.
Indeed
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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

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Thx Mr Huber
[pgn][Event "Emulation"]
[Site "30 Züge in 60 Minuten"]
[Date "2020.05.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Sci Sys Mark V"]
[Black "Lagershausen"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E24"]
[Opening "Nimzo-Indisch"]
[Variation "Sämisch"]
[TimeControl "5400+10"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "90"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]
[Comment "Vorgabe bis Zug 6"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3+ 5. bxc3 d6 6. f3 Nh5 7. e4 Qh4+
8. Kd2 Ng3 9. Qe1 Nxf1+ 10. Qxf1 Qg5+ 11. Kc2 Qa5 12. Be3 Qa4+ 13. Kb2 c5
14. dxc5 dxc5 15. Bxc5 Nd7 16. Bb4 a5 17. Bd6 Nb6 18. Qd3 Nxc4+ 19. Kc1 Ra6
20. Bg3 e5 21. Ne2 O-O 22. Qd1 Bd7 23. Qxa4 Bxa4 24. Bh4 f6 25. Bf2 Rd8 26.
Re1 Rad6 27. Kb1 Rd2 28. Ra2 Bb3 29. Rxd2 Rxd2 30. Bc5 Bc2+ 31. Ka1 b6 32.
Bg1 Nxa3 33. Be3 Rd3 34. Bxb6 Bd1 35. Rxd1 Rxd1+ 36. Ka2 Nc4 37. Bc5 a4 38.
Ng3 Rd2+ 39. Ka1 g6 40. Kb1 a3 41. Ka1 Kf7 42. h4 Ke6 43. Kb1 a2+ 44. Ka1
Na5 45. Bg1 Nb3# 0-1
[/pgn]
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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

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F.Huber wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 7:16 pm Hi,

you can use more than 250 old chess computer programs (also MK V) with CB-Emu_Pro from my website:
https://fhub.jimdofree.com/

It also includes a special version 'MessChess' which allows to run all those programs in any
chess GUI which supports the WB or UCI protocol (e.g. WinBoard, Arena, Hiarcs, Shredder, ...)

Regards,
Franz
What an incredible project, many thanks. There's enough material to be absorbed for a lifetime in there. I have just downloaded your emulator and played against Mephisto 68000, it brought back memories of my youth as I related here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11639919
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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

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Today in the game 2 of my match against Mark V i used Mess and the preconfiguration of Arena GUI.

I am missing any informationoutput of Mark V under this configuration. No evaluation of the position, no mainline, absolut nothing.

Is this right?

Please give me more data under Arena GUI .

[pgn][Event "Emulation"]
[Site "40 Züge in 180 Minuten"]
[Date "2020.05.30"]
[Round "2"]
[White "SciSys Mark V"]
[Black "Lagershausen"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B23"]
[Opening "Sizilianisch"]
[Variation "Geschlossenes System, 2...Nc6"]
[TimeControl "40/1800:40/1800:1800"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "81"]
[WhiteType "computer"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. d3 g6 4. Be3 d6 5. Qd2 Bg7 6. g3 Nd4 7. Bg2 Rb8 8.
f4 b5 9. Nf3 a5 10. O-O a4 11. Nh4 a3 12. b3 Qa5 13. e5 Qxc3 14. Qxc3 Ne2+
15. Kf2 Nxc3 16. Bd2 b4 17. Rfe1 dxe5 18. fxe5 Nh6 19. Nf3 Ng4+ 20. Kf1 Bb7
21. h4 Bxf3 22. Bxf3 Nxe5 23. Bg2 O-O 24. Bf4 f6 25. Be3 Rbc8 26. d4 Ng4
27. dxc5 f5 28. Bb7 Nxe3+ 29. Rxe3 Rxc5 30. Rxe7 Ne4 31. Rd1 Rxc2 32. Bxe4
fxe4+ 33. Kg1 Rxa2 34. Rxe4 Bc3 35. Rd7 Rd2 36. Rxd2 Bxd2 37. Re6 Ra8 38.
Rf6 a2 39. Rf1 a1=Q 40. Rxa1 Rxa1+ 41. Kh2 0-1
[/pgn]
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Re: Exist a posibility to play against MK V (1981 computerworldchampion) on PC?

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Thomas Lagershausen wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 7:12 pm Today in the game 2 of my match against Mark V i used Mess and the preconfiguration of Arena GUI.

I am missing any informationoutput of Mark V under this configuration. No evaluation of the position, no mainline, absolut nothing.

Is this right?

Please give me more data under Arena GUI .
The UCI/WB interface in CB-Emu is not prepared for such engine informations, it only handles moves and (engine!) levels.
Since every engine provides such search infos (if at all) in different ways, this would mean that I had to add different code
for every engine - simply impossible for about 250 engines (I still have an other life besides CB-Emu ;-)).

Regards,
Franz