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Where can I play No Castle Chess Online?

Post by Chessqueen » Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:08 am

I checked Play Online Chessbase and they do NOT even offer such creative game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1YDk8BkcPg

But this is the highest player ever to play a No castle chess game, of course it has to be a Computer, we should have No castle chess testing of engines here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ofQFjCiQ8I

PS: I will play a Knight odds and d pawn removed plus No Castle for me Versus Komodo 11 on my Samsung Galaxy 8+ Android and post it here tomorrow.

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Re: Where can I play No Castle Chess Online?

Post by Chessqueen » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:14 am

Chessqueen wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:08 am
I checked Play Online Chessbase and they do NOT even offer such creative game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1YDk8BkcPg

But this is the highest player ever to play a No castle chess game, of course it has to be a Computer, we should have No castle chess testing of engines here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ofQFjCiQ8I

PS: I will play a Knight odds and d pawn removed plus No Castle for me Versus Komodo 11 on my Samsung Galaxy 8+ Android and post it here tomorrow.
I decided to play in on my personal Computer since the advantage was too much in my favor, I was winning but i needed 3 more minutes to kill Komodo 11, but i needed at least 3 more minutes to do it since I was taking my time

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2020.04.16"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Komodo-11-64bit"]
[Black "ChessQueen"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2400"]
[Time "23:37:39"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[TimeControl "900"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPP1PPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "time forfeit"]
[PlyCount "29"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 {(e2-e4 Nb8-c6 Ng1-f3) -3.95/23 28} g6 2. Nf3 {(Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 h2-h3
Bf8-g7 Bf1-c4 d7-d6 c2-c3 Ng8-f6 Qd1-c2 O-O Bc1-e3 Nc6-a5 Bc4-e2 c7-c5
Ra1-d1 Bc8-e6 b2-b3 Qd8-c7 O-O Na5-c6 Be2-d3 Ra8-d8 Qc2-c1 Nc6-e5) -3.80/22
38} Bg7 3. h3 {(h2-h3 d7-d6 Bf1-c4 Nb8-c6 O-O Ng8-f6 c2-c3 O-O Rf1-e1
Nc6-a5 Bc4-e2 Bc8-e6 Qd1-a4 c7-c5 e4-e5 Nf6-d5 e5xd6 e7xd6 Bc1-d2 Nd5-f6
Be2-b5 Na5-c6) -3.84/22 18} e6 4. c3 {(c2-c3 d7-d6 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 O-O Ng8-f6
Qd1-c2 a7-a6 b2-b4 O-O Bc1-e3 e6-e5 Be2-c4 Bc8-d7 a2-a4 Nc6-e7 Rf1-d1 b7-b5
a4xb5 a6xb5 Bc4-d3) -3.69/20 22} d5 5. exd5 {(e4xd5 Ng8-e7 Bf1-b5+)
-3.52/20 33} exd5 6. Bd3 {(Bf1-d3 Ng8-e7 O-O) -3.60/20 20} (6. Bd3 {(Bf1-d3
Ng8-f6 O-O) -3.72/20 28}) 6. .. Nf6 7. Qe2+ {(Qd1-e2+ Bc8-e6 Nf3-d4 O-O
Nd4xe6 f7xe6 Qe2xe6+ Kg8-h8 Qe6-e2 Rf8-e8 Bc1-e3 c7-c5 Bd3-b5 Re8-e5 O-O
d5-d4 Qe2-d3 a7-a6 Bb5-a4 Qd8-a5 Be3-f4 Re5-f5 Bf4xb8 Qa5xa4 Bb8-h2 d4xc3
Qd3xc3 Nf6-e4 Qc3-e3 Ra8-e8 Ra1-e1) -3.79/20 31} Qe7 8. Qxe7+ {(Qe2xe7+
Ke8xe7 O-O Bc8-e6 Rf1-e1 c7-c5 Bc1-e3 Nf6-d7 Nf3-g5 Nb8-c6 Ra1-d1 Nc6-e5
Bd3-e2 h7-h6 Ng5xe6 f7xe6 f2-f4 Ne5-c6 Be2-d3 Ke7-f7 Be3-f2 Ra8-e8 Bd3-c2)
-3.50/17 7} Kxe7 9. Be3 {(Bc1-e3 Nb8-c6 O-O) -3.48/20 25} Re8 10. O-O {(O-O
Nb8-d7 Rf1-e1 Ke7-f8 Bd3-c2 c7-c6 Be3-f4 Re8xe1+ Ra1xe1 Kf8-g8 Bf4-d6
Nf6-e4 Bc2xe4 d5xe4 Nf3-g5 f7-f5 Ng5-e6 b7-b5 Ne6-c7 Ra8-b8 Nc7-e8 Rb8-b6
Ne8xg7 Kg8xg7 Re1-d1 Rb6-a6 a2-a3) -3.82/20 25} Kf8 11. Bc2 {(Bd3-c2 Nb8-d7
Rf1-e1 c7-c6 a2-a4 Kf8-g8 a4-a5 Nf6-e4 Nf3-d2 Nd7-f6 g2-g4 Ne4xd2 Be3xd2
Bc8-d7 f2-f3 Re8xe1+ Ra1xe1 c6-c5 Kg1-g2 Ra8-e8 b2-b4 Re8xe1 Bd2xe1 b7-b6
a5xb6) -3.99/20 26} c6 12. Rfe1 {(Rf1-e1 Kf8-g8 Be3-f4 Re8xe1+ Ra1xe1
Nb8-d7 Re1-e7 Bg7-f8 Re7-e1 Nd7-c5 Bf4-e5 Nf6-d7 Be5-d4 Nc5-e6 Bd4-e3
Nd7-f6 g2-g3 Nf6-e4 Nf3-e5 Bf8-g7 Ne5-g4 Ne4-d6 Ng4-h6+ Kg8-f8 Bc2-d3
b7-b6) -4.10/21 30} Nbd7 13. Bf4 {(Be3-f4 Re8xe1+ Ra1xe1 Kf8-g8 Re1-e7
Bg7-f8 Re7-e1 Nd7-c5 Bf4-e5 Nf6-d7 Be5-d4 Nc5-e6 Bd4-e3 Nd7-f6 g2-g3 Nf6-e4
Kg1-g2 Ne4-d6 b2-b3 Bf8-g7 Nf3-d4 Bc8-d7 Nd4xe6 Bd7xe6) -4.16/19 10} Rxe1+
14. Rxe1 {(Ra1xe1 Kf8-g8 g2-g4) -4.15/21 14} Nc5 (14. .. a5) (14. .. a5 15.
Bd6+ {(Bf4-d6+ Kf8-g8 Nf3-d4 Bg7-f8 Bd6-h2 Nd7-c5 g2-g4 Nc5-e6 Kg1-g2
Nf6-e8 a2-a3 Bf8-d6 Nd4xe6 Bc8xe6 f2-f4 Kg8-g7 f4-f5 Be6-d7 Bh2-g3 Bd6xg3
Kg2xg3 Ne8-d6) -4.01/19 22} Kg8 16. Nd4 {(Nf3-d4 Bg7-f8 Bd6-h2 Nd7-c5 g2-g4
Nc5-e6 Kg1-g2 Nf6-e8 a2-a4 Bf8-d6 f2-f4 Bc8-d7 Nd4xe6 f7xe6 Kg2-f3 c6-c5
b2-b3 Kg8-f7 Bh2-g1 b7-b6 Bc2-d3 Bd7-c6 Kf3-g3) -4.21/20 16} a4 17. Bc7
{(Bd6-c7 a4-a3 b2-b4) -4.26/21 30} Nc5 18. f3 {(f2-f3 Nc5-e6 Bc7-b6)
-4.57/21 20} a3 19. b3 {(b2-b3 Nc5-e6 Bc7-h2) -4.59/22 14} Ne6 20. Be5
{(Bc7-e5 Nf6-e8 Be5-g3 Bc8-d7 Nd4-e2 Ne8-c7 Re1-d1 Nc7-b5 Bg3-e1 Ra8-e8
Kg1-f2 Bg7-f8 Kf2-f1 Nb5-c7 Be1-f2 Kg8-g7 Bf2-b6 Bf8-c5 Bb6xc5 Ne6xc5
Kf1-f2 Nc5-e6 h3-h4 f7-f6 g2-g3 b7-b6 c3-c4) -4.83/22 14} Nd7 21. Bxg7
{(Be5xg7 Ne6xg7 Kg1-f2) -4.20/19 5} Nxg7 22. Kf2 {(Kg1-f2 Nd7-c5 g2-g4
Nc5-e6 Nd4-e2 Ng7-e8 Kf2-g3 Kg8-g7 Bc2-d3 Ne8-d6 Ne2-d4 c6-c5 Nd4-b5 Nd6xb5
Bd3xb5 d5-d4 Re1-c1 Ra8-a5 Bb5-c4 d4xc3 Bc4xe6 Bc8xe6 Rc1xc3 Be6-d5)
-4.33/20 8} c5 23. Nb5 {(Nd4-b5 Ng7-e6 f3-f4 Nd7-f6 f4-f5 g6xf5 Bc2xf5
Ne6-g5 Bf5-d3 Ng5-e4+ Kf2-f3 Bc8-e6 c3-c4 Ra8-d8 Re1-e2 Kg8-g7 Nb5xa3
Ne4-c3 Re2-c2 d5-d4 Na3-b5 Nc3xb5 c4xb5 b7-b6 Rc2-e2 Nf6-d5 g2-g4) -4.07/20
6} Nf6 24. Nc7 {(Nb5-c7 Ra8-b8 Re1-e5) -4.21/22 25} Ra7 25. Re5 {(Re1-e5
Bc8-e6 g2-g4) -3.97/21 19} Be6 26. g3 {(g2-g3 Nf6-e8 Nc7xe6 f7xe6 c3-c4
Ne8-f6 f3-f4 Kg8-f7 Kf2-f3 b7-b6 g3-g4 Ng7-e8 g4-g5 Nf6-d7 Re5-e2 d5-d4
Re2-e1 Ne8-d6 Bc2-d3 Ra7-a8 h3-h4 Ra8-d8 h4-h5 g6xh5) -4.23/20 12} b6 27.
Nb5 {(Nc7-b5 Ra7-a5 Nb5-c7 Nf6-e8 Nc7xd5 f7-f6 Re5xe6 Ng7xe6 f3-f4 Ra5-a8
Nd5xb6 Ra8-d8 Kf2-e3 Ne8-d6 Bc2-d3 Kg8-g7 b3-b4 Rd8-e8 Ke3-d2 c5xb4 c3xb4
Ne6-c7 Nb6-c4 Nc7-b5 Nc4xd6 Nb5xd6 b4-b5 Kg7-f7) -4.52/21 10} Ra5 28. Nc7
{(Nb5-c7 Nf6-e8) -4.81/22 33} Nd7 29. Re2 {(Re5-e2 d5-d4 c3xd4) -4.51/22
15} Ra7 30. Nb5 {(Nc7-b5 Ra7-a8 g3-g4 Ng7-e8 Bc2-d3 c5-c4 b3xc4 Nd7-c5
Re2-d2 d5xc4 Bd3-e4 Nc5xe4+ f3xe4 Ra8-a5 Nb5-d4 Ne8-c7 Kf2-e3 Nc7-b5 Rd2-c2
Kg8-g7 Rc2-c1 Be6-d7 Nd4xb5 Ra5xb5 Rc1-d1 Bd7-c6) -4.27/19 4} Ra5 31. Nd6
{(Nb5-d6 Ra5-a8 Nd6-b5 Ng7-e8 h3-h4 Kg8-g7 Bc2-d3 c5-c4 Bd3-c2 c4xb3 Bc2xb3
Nd7-c5 Bb3-c2 Be6-d7 Nb5-d4 Ne8-d6 Re2-e5 Bd7-e6 Re5-e1 Nd6-c4 g3-g4 Be6-d7
h4-h5 Nc5-e6 Nd4xe6+ f7xe6 h5xg6 h7xg6 Bc2-d3) -4.62/20 9} Bxh3 32. g4
{(g3-g4 Ng7-e6 Re2-e1 d5-d4 Kf2-g3 d4xc3 Kg3xh3 Ne6-d4 Bc2-d3 Nd7-f6 Nd6-c4
Ra5-a6 Kh3-g3 b6-b5 Nc4-e3 Ra6-e6 Kg3-f2 Kg8-g7 Re1-c1 b5-b4 Bd3-c4 Re6-e8
Ne3-c2 h7-h6 Nc2xd4 c5xd4 Bc4-b5) -4.00/20 4} Ne6 33. Kg3 {(Kf2-g3 d5-d4
Re2-f2) -3.45/21 7} Nf6 34. Re1 {(Re2-e1 d5-d4 c3xd4 Bh3xg4 f3xg4 c5xd4
Nd6-c4 Ra5-g5 Bc2-d1 b6-b5 Nc4xa3 h7-h5 Bd1-e2 h5xg4 Na3xb5 Nf6-h5+ Kg3-f2
g4-g3+ Kf2-g1 Nh5-f4 Be2-c4 Nf4-h3+ Kg1-g2 Ne6-f4+ Kg2-f3 g3-g2 Nb5xd4
g2-g1Q Re1xg1 Rg5xg1 a2-a4) -3.55/21 18} h5 (34. .. Ng5 35. f4 {(f3-f4
Ng5-e6 Kg3xh3 Ne6xf4+ Kh3-g3 Nf4-e6 Nd6-c8 d5-d4 Nc8xb6 d4xc3 Bc2-d3 c5-c4
Bd3xc4 Ne6-d4 Kg3-f4 Nd4-c6 Bc4-e2 Nc6-b4 Nb6-c4 Nb4xa2 Nc4xa5 c3-c2 Be2-c4
c2-c1Q+) -2.53/19 5} Nf3 36. Kxf3 {(Kg3xf3 Bh3xg4+ Kf3-g3) -2.60/22 8}
Bxg4+ 37. Kf2 {(Kf3-f2 Ra5-a7 Nd6-b5 Ra7-d7 Bc2-b1 Kg8-g7 Nb5xa3 d5-d4
c3xd4 c5xd4 Na3-c4 d4-d3 Kf2-e3 b6-b5 Nc4-d2 Bg4-e2 Ke3-f2 b5-b4 Re1-c1
Nf6-g4+ Kf2-g3 Ng4-e3 Kg3-f2 Ne3-d1+ Kf2-g3 Nd1-c3 a2-a4 Rd7-e7) -3.24/20
25} Be6 38. f5 {(f4-f5 g6xf5 Bc2xf5 Be6xf5 Nd6xf5 Kg8-f8 Nf5-d6 Ra5-a7
Kf2-f3 Ra7-e7 Re1-h1 h7-h5 b3-b4 Re7-e6 Nd6-b5 Kf8-g7 Nb5xa3 Nf6-e4 b4xc5
b6xc5 Rh1xh5 Ne4xc3 Na3-c2 Re6-f6+ Kf3-e3) -2.29/19 7} gxf5 39. Bxf5
{(Bc2xf5 Be6xf5 Nd6xf5 Kg8-f8 Nf5-d6 Ra5-a7 Nd6-c8 Ra7-b7 Kf2-f3 b6-b5
Kf3-f4 Rb7-d7 Re1-h1 d5-d4 c3xd4 c5xd4 Kf4-e5 Nf6-d5 Ke5xd4 Nd5-e7+ Kd4-c5
Ne7xc8 Rh1xh7 Nc8-d6 Kc5-b4 Kf8-e7) -2.44/19 10} Bxf5 40. Nxf5 {(Nd6xf5
Kg8-f8 Nf5-d6 Ra5-a7 Re1-h1 Ra7-e7 Kf2-f3 h7-h5 Nd6-b5 Kf8-g7 Nb5xa3 Re7-a7
Na3-b5 Ra7xa2 Nb5-d6 Ra2-b2 Kf3-f4 Kg7-g6 Rh1-g1+ Nf6-g4 Nd6-c8 Rb2-f2+
Kf4-g3) -2.46/19 3} h5 41. Kf3 {(Kf2-f3 Ra5-a8 Kf3-f4 Kg8-f8 Nf5-d6 Ra8-d8
Nd6-b5 Kf8-g7 Re1-g1+ Nf6-g4 Kf4-g5 f7-f6+ Kg5xh5 Kg7-f7 Nb5-d6+ Kf7-e6
Rg1xg4 Rd8-h8+ Kh5-g6 Rh8-g8+ Kg6-h5 Rg8xg4 Kh5xg4 Ke6xd6 Kg4-f5 Kd6-c6
Kf5xf6 d5-d4 c3xd4) -2.02/19 9} Kf8 42. Re7 {(Re1-e7 d5-d4 c3-c4) -1.82/20
5} Ra8 43. Rb7 {(Re7-b7 Ra8-e8 Rb7xb6) -1.05/18 3} ... {1-0 Black forfeits
on time} ) 35. Bxg6 {(Bc2xg6 Ne6-g5 Kg3-f4 f7xg6 Kf4xg5 Nf6-h7+ Kg5xg6
Ra5-a7 Kg6xh5 Bh3-g2 Re1-e8+ Nh7-f8 f3-f4 Ra7-h7+ Kh5-g5 Rh7-d7 Nd6-f5
Kg8-f7 Re8-b8 Nf8-e6+ Kg5-h4 d5-d4 c3xd4 c5xd4 Nf5-h6+ Kf7-g7 Rb8xb6 d4-d3
Rb6xe6 d3-d2 Nh6-f5+ Kg7-f7) -1.48/18 4} ) 15. Bd6+ {(Bf4-d6+ Kf8-g8 Bd6xc5
b7-b6 Bc5-d6 Bc8-e6 Nf3-g5 Be6-d7 Ng5-f3 c6-c5 Bd6-f4 Ra8-e8 Re1xe8+ Bd7xe8
Bf4-b8 a7-a6 Bb8-c7 b6-b5 Nf3-e5 d5-d4 c3xd4 Nf6-d5 Bc7-d6 Nd5-b4 Bc2-e4
c5xd4) -0.42/20 4} 1-0

I lost on time just when I going to play Ne4

This was the final position when I lost on time, and I am just a patzer player:
[FENr4k2/1R3p2/1p3n2/2pp1N1p/8/pPP2K2/P7/8 w - - 0 44 ]

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Re: Where can I play No Castle Chess Online?

Post by Nordlandia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:49 am

Chess servers in general don't seem to prioritze variants, particularly because variants just serve for a niche of the playerbase.

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Re: Where can I play No Castle Chess Online?

Post by hgm » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:59 am

Besides, you can play a no-castle game as a normal one, when both players agree to refrain from castling.

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Re: Where can I play No Castle Chess Online?

Post by gbtami » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:08 am

You can play no castle chess with your friends or with AI on lichess.org
https://lichess.org/editor/rnbqkbnr/ppp ... _w_-_-_0_1
Use the "CONTINUE FROM HERE" button.

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Re: Where can I play No Castle Chess Online?

Post by Chessqueen » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:21 am

gbtami wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:08 am
You can play no castle chess with your friends or with AI on lichess.org
https://lichess.org/editor/rnbqkbnr/ppp ... _w_-_-_0_1
Use the "CONTINUE FROM HERE" button.
Thanks you, But even if I am losing to Komodo 11 This is the most fun that I ever had, since of course we human can NOT compete with Computer engines without having odds. But anyway I am a patzer who is starting to enjoy playing against engines after 30 years when they first started. But I did Not resigned without giving Komodo 11 a good fight.


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Re: Where can I play No Castle Chess Online?

Post by lkaufman » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:28 pm

Some questions/suggestions. What is your Elo rating (FIDE if you have one, online if you don't)? Have you tried the same handicap with full castling rights to compare? I think it would make more sense for you to play at rook handicap rather than knight plus queen pawn, not so much because it is a larger handicap, but because it will feel much more like a normal game of chess. You could try rook handicap with normal castling and then with no castling for you, to see how much difference it makes. Of course you need to play a few games each way to draw conclusions.
Komodo rules!

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Re: Where can I play No Castle Chess Online?

Post by Nordlandia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:49 pm

hgm wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:59 am
Besides, you can play a no-castle game as a normal one, when both players agree to refrain from castling.
In that case castling has to be considered as an illegal move :D

No way to change your mind.

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Re: Where can I play No Castle Chess Online?

Post by Chessqueen » Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:58 pm

lkaufman wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:28 pm
Some questions/suggestions. What is your Elo rating (FIDE if you have one, online if you don't)? Have you tried the same handicap with full castling rights to compare? I think it would make more sense for you to play at rook handicap rather than knight plus queen pawn, not so much because it is a larger handicap, but because it will feel much more like a normal game of chess. You could try rook handicap with normal castling and then with no castling for you, to see how much difference it makes. Of course you need to play a few games each way to draw conclusions.
I do not know my rating since i have been paying a GM online for the last 10 months to help me improve, all that I know is that I have been playing as a guess here https://play.chessbase.com/en/ and it goes from 1750 to 1975> I always play the same move until I master it which is 1.h3 the Clemenz Opening just to throw my opponent off their memorized opening repertoire. And for Black no matter how my opponent open the game I play 1....g6 followed by 2.......Bg7 and most of the time my third move is 3......c5. I will be there challenging anybody in the next 2 minutes simply go here to
https://play.chessbase.com/en/ I will identify myself by ChessQueen

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Re: Where can I play No Castle Chess Online?

Post by lkaufman » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:12 pm

Chessqueen wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:58 pm
lkaufman wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:28 pm
Some questions/suggestions. What is your Elo rating (FIDE if you have one, online if you don't)? Have you tried the same handicap with full castling rights to compare? I think it would make more sense for you to play at rook handicap rather than knight plus queen pawn, not so much because it is a larger handicap, but because it will feel much more like a normal game of chess. You could try rook handicap with normal castling and then with no castling for you, to see how much difference it makes. Of course you need to play a few games each way to draw conclusions.
I do not know my rating since i have been paying a GM online for the last 10 months to help me improve, all that I know is that I have been playing as a guess here https://play.chessbase.com/en/ and it goes from 1750 to 1975> I always play the same move until I master it which is 1.h3 the Clemenz Opening just to throw my opponent off their memorized opening repertoire. And for Black no matter how my opponent open the game I play 1....g6 followed by 2.......Bg7 and most of the time my third move is 3......c5. I will be there challenging anybody in the next 2 minutes simply go here to
https://play.chessbase.com/en/ I will identify myself by ChessQueen
If we assume that you are something like FIDE 1850 level, then I think you would be doing well if you can come out ahead of Komodo at rook handicap in 15' games, without a castling restriction, even on an ordinary pc. But it's vital to set Contempt to something like 200, otherwise it will just let you trade pieces and reach a rook up endgame.
Komodo rules!

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