Optane+Ssd vs PCIe Nvme M.2?

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h1a8
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Optane+Ssd vs PCIe Nvme M.2?

Post by h1a8 »

I have a choice of getting a laptop with either
512gb Intel SSD + 16GB Intel Optane memory
Or
512GB PCIe Nvme M.2 SSD

For the same price.
Which is better for bootup speeds, for tablebase usage, and any other chess related things? And which one will last longer?
zullil
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Re: Optane+Ssd vs PCIe Nvme M.2?

Post by zullil »

h1a8 wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:06 pm I have a choice of getting a laptop with either
512gb Intel SSD + 16GB Intel Optane memory
Or
512GB PCIe Nvme M.2 SSD

For the same price.
Which is better for bootup speeds, for tablebase usage, and any other chess related things? And which one will last longer?
No RAM for option 2??
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Re: Optane+Ssd vs PCIe Nvme M.2?

Post by Eduard »

PCI express is faster.
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Re: Optane+Ssd vs PCIe Nvme M.2?

Post by Alayan »

Optane "Memory" is just a tiny SSD with fast random read/writes at low queue depth, that can be used for caching.

The Nvme is the better choice here.
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Re: Optane+Ssd vs PCIe Nvme M.2?

Post by zullil »

Alayan wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:01 pm Optane "Memory" is just a tiny SSD with fast random read/writes at low queue depth, that can be used for caching.

The Nvme is the better choice here.
Oh, I thought it was memory, as in RAM. My error.
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Re: Optane+Ssd vs PCIe Nvme M.2?

Post by Alayan »

The marketing name is deliberately deceiving. Some laptops have had an advertised memory where the number was the RAM + the optane SSD cache drive.
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Re: Optane+Ssd vs PCIe Nvme M.2?

Post by fishpov »

Optane is rather intended for speed up Hard Drive. With SSD you can accelerate with Optane (about 5%). But take care having last bios. For PCI Express or Sata SSD, except for large file, improvment is not really visible