Re: Komodo 13.3 released
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:39 pm
Absolutely yes.BrendanJNorman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:57 pm Would you suggest the same business advice for Apple with regard to iPhone releases?
Absolutely yes.BrendanJNorman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:57 pm Would you suggest the same business advice for Apple with regard to iPhone releases?
I will buy this version of Komodo, but that in the future I will have free updates to the latest version of the engine. Do you agree or not.lkaufman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:47 pm We always offer for free the version below the one we have on sale, currently Komodo 11 is on sale very cheap, so Komodo 10 is free.
Suppose we said all updates are free for purchasers, but the price is $100. Then we said if you don't want the updates we would give 40% discount. That would of course be exactly the same as what we are doing now, but perhaps it would look less "greedy"? If we only sold Komodo with a year's updates, the price would probably be in the middle, let's say $80, but I think that on average our customers would be less happy and we would make less money. It's better not to charge people for something they don't want to buy.
Okay.Krzysztof Grzelak wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:39 pmAbsolutely yes.BrendanJNorman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:57 pm Would you suggest the same business advice for Apple with regard to iPhone releases?
You know why in the past engine authors didn't look at the code of other engines ? Because other engines were closed source and it was impossible to do so. That's it.MikeB wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:36 pm I think that is true with many young authors today, but the majority of the old school authors would perhaps discuss ideas - but they would never look at code from another engines. I seriously doubt that Mark looks at SF code at all period. My opinion , and you made a point insinuating that Komodo authors have taken ideas from SF and I believe that idea is 100% completely false. I agree with your suggestion IF they WERE to do that , they should acknowledge it as such - but for you to suggest they have is totally out of bounds and requires you to know something which you have no way of knowing. One should not indulge in gossip.
Eval is nice, but the real magic is in the search. To the point that the top shogi engines have been using the Stockfish search with their own evals on top.
Here is a completely different matter.BrendanJNorman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:44 pm Okay.
How about...
Would you accept your employer only pay your first salary, but have you work on an ongoing basis, based on that original salary?
That is, would you work forever, if somebody paid you $1000 or even $10,000 once?
The point I'm trying to make is that this increasingly common perception that it is somehow immoral to be paid for your labor is false, as long as you are doing nothing to harm others...who cares?
I don't want anything for free.BrendanJNorman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:50 pm The point I'm trying to make is that this increasingly common perception that it is somehow immoral to be paid for your labor is false, as long as you are doing nothing to harm others...who cares?
If somebody (or a team) spend hundreds of hours coding, testing and trying to market a NEW product, to me at least, it is immoral to expect them to give it to you for FREE based on some perceived goodwill being earned by buying a previous product.
There is a point to which capitalism definitely goes too far, but this is far from that point.
You're asking to pay for current Komodo and get next versions (Komodo 14, 15, 16, and any future version), for free, aren't you?