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Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:27 am

Ratosh wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:32 pm Great tool! Some things i would like to see:
Report:

• Window for`Drop` (able to find X score drop in Y plies).
• Show FEN positions in html report (easier to see/copy the FEN).
  
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The two points above exist already in Toms Game Analyser and it even has a GUI and eval graphs.

http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... er#p750330
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... e+analyser

Tom's game analyzer does not work with as many formats. But the graph feature is nice,

Dann Corbit wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:22 pm

Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:27 am

Ratosh wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:32 pm Great tool! Some things i would like to see:
Report:

• Window for`Drop` (able to find X score drop in Y plies).
• Show FEN positions in html report (easier to see/copy the FEN).
  
  ...

The two points above exist already in Toms Game Analyser and it even has a GUI and eval graphs.

http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... er#p750330
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... e+analyser

Tom's game analyzer does not work with as many formats. But the graph feature is nice,

It does easily with wb/banksia/cutechess/cute-cli/arena pgns with simple regex one second search+ replace.
(only CB and probably ChessGUI pgn would require a little bit more work)

Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:56 pm

Dann Corbit wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:22 pm

Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:27 am

Ratosh wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:32 pm Great tool! Some things i would like to see:
Report:

• Window for`Drop` (able to find X score drop in Y plies).
• Show FEN positions in html report (easier to see/copy the FEN).
  
  ...

The two points above exist already in Toms Game Analyser and it even has a GUI and eval graphs.

http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... er#p750330
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... e+analyser

Tom's game analyzer does not work with as many formats. But the graph feature is nice,

It does easily with wb/banksia/cutechess/cute-cli/arena pgns with simple regex one second search+ replace.
(only CB and probably ChessGUI pgn would require a little bit more work)

It sounds convenient unless you have 500 files you want to process.

Does Score Drop detect drops in more than 1 ply? I wanted to be able to set the ply window to detect the drop.

Ratosh wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:43 pm Does Score Drop detect drops in more than 1 ply? I wanted to be able to set the ply window to detect the drop.

Well, Toms Game Analyser does this too...

UPDATE

Match SF11 vs Lc0 (various versions) taken from "fastgm" 16 cpu tournament, 2500 games.

http://rebel13.nl/output.htm

Main change, added EPD in html and in files.
PGN''s and EPD's attached.

I guess this addresses most of the raised issues for the moment.

Interesting to see Stockfish being superior in the mid-game while Lc0 is on par in the endgame, I expected it the other way around. Ha! what do I know about computer chess.

Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:47 am [d]8/8/k7/1pK5/p1p5/B1P5/1P6/4n3 b - - 33 115

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115... Nc2 +9.92/29

It is impossible for me to reproduce that incredible score with SF8.
Neither with 5men Syzygy nor with no TBS at all. The score is always between 0.17 and 0.33 for all depths up to 60.

Even Stockfish has bugs.

[Event "CCRL 40/15"]
[Site "CCRL"]
[Date "2020.01.19"]
[Round "703.2.691"]
[White "Komodo 13.2.5 MCTS 64-bit"]
[Black "Stockfish 11 64-bit"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B06"]
[Opening "Robatsch defence"]
[PlyCount "148"]
[WhiteElo "3282"]
[BlackElo "3432"]

1. e4 {+0.00/1 0s} g6 {+0.00/1 0s} 2. d4 {+0.00/1 0s} Bg7 {+0.00/1 0s} 3. Nc3
{+0.00/1 0s} c6 {+0.00/1 0s} 4. Be3 {+0.00/1 0s} Qb6 {+0.00/1 0s} 5. Qd2
{+0.73/13 34s} Qxb2 {(d6) -0.07/28 37s} 6. Rb1 {(Rb1) +0.28/11 24s} Qa3 {(Qa3)
+0.00/28 19s} 7. h4 {(Nf3) +0.39/11 34s} h5 {(Nf6) +0.10/27 44s} 8. e5 {(e5)

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Can someone tell me which interface produces this kind of PGN?

And about the move comment:

6. Rb1 {(Rb1) +0.28/11 24s}
7. h4 {(Nf3) +0.39/11 34s}

What does the move (Rb1 / Nf3) mean in the move comment?

Rebel wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:19 pm

Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:47 am [d]8/8/k7/1pK5/p1p5/B1P5/1P6/4n3 b - - 33 115

Code: Select all

115... Nc2 +9.92/29

It is impossible for me to reproduce that incredible score with SF8.
Neither with 5men Syzygy nor with no TBS at all. The score is always between 0.17 and 0.33 for all depths up to 60.

Even Stockfish has bugs.

Of course, but we don't know, if it was an SF bug in this case.
Anyhow, you adressed the point given and renamed that category to 'possible missed win' I see ;-)

Guenther wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:25 pm

Rebel wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:19 pm

Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:47 am [d]8/8/k7/1pK5/p1p5/B1P5/1P6/4n3 b - - 33 115

Code: Select all

115... Nc2 +9.92/29

It is impossible for me to reproduce that incredible score with SF8.
Neither with 5men Syzygy nor with no TBS at all. The score is always between 0.17 and 0.33 for all depths up to 60.

Even Stockfish has bugs.

Of course, but we don't know, if it was an SF bug in this case.

The alternative would be cutechess, unlikely.

Anyhow, you adressed the point given and renamed that category to 'possible missed win' I see

Sure, I asked for feedback