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Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:22 pm
by Dann Corbit
Guenther wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:27 am
Ratosh wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:32 pm
Great tool! Some things i would like to see:
Report:
  • Window for`Drop` (able to find X score drop in Y plies).
  • Show FEN positions in html report (easier to see/copy the FEN).

    ...
The two points above exist already in Toms Game Analyser and it even has a GUI and eval graphs.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=66554&p=750330&hili ... er#p750330
viewtopic.php?t=62066&highlight=game+analyser
Tom's game analyzer does not work with as many formats. But the graph feature is nice,

Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:56 pm
by Guenther
Dann Corbit wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:22 pm
Guenther wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:27 am
Ratosh wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:32 pm
Great tool! Some things i would like to see:
Report:
  • Window for`Drop` (able to find X score drop in Y plies).
  • Show FEN positions in html report (easier to see/copy the FEN).

    ...
The two points above exist already in Toms Game Analyser and it even has a GUI and eval graphs.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=66554&p=750330&hili ... er#p750330
viewtopic.php?t=62066&highlight=game+analyser
Tom's game analyzer does not work with as many formats. But the graph feature is nice,
It does easily with wb/banksia/cutechess/cute-cli/arena pgns with simple regex one second search+ replace.
(only CB and probably ChessGUI pgn would require a little bit more work)

Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:18 pm
by Dann Corbit
Guenther wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:56 pm
Dann Corbit wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:22 pm
Guenther wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:27 am
Ratosh wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:32 pm
Great tool! Some things i would like to see:
Report:
  • Window for`Drop` (able to find X score drop in Y plies).
  • Show FEN positions in html report (easier to see/copy the FEN).

    ...
The two points above exist already in Toms Game Analyser and it even has a GUI and eval graphs.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=66554&p=750330&hili ... er#p750330
viewtopic.php?t=62066&highlight=game+analyser
Tom's game analyzer does not work with as many formats. But the graph feature is nice,
It does easily with wb/banksia/cutechess/cute-cli/arena pgns with simple regex one second search+ replace.
(only CB and probably ChessGUI pgn would require a little bit more work)
It sounds convenient unless you have 500 files you want to process.

Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:43 pm
by Ratosh
Does Score Drop detect drops in more than 1 ply? I wanted to be able to set the ply window to detect the drop.

Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:30 pm
by Guenther
Ratosh wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:43 pm
Does Score Drop detect drops in more than 1 ply? I wanted to be able to set the ply window to detect the drop.
Well, Toms Game Analyser does this too...
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Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:08 pm
by Rebel
UPDATE

Match SF11 vs Lc0 (various versions) taken from "fastgm" 16 cpu tournament, 2500 games.

http://rebel13.nl/output.htm

Main change, added EPD in html and in files.

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 Processed games         : 2500          All.epd                 : 38
 Suspect_openings.pgn    : 1             Suspect_openings.epd    : 1
 Crazy_games.pgn         : 9             Crazy_games.epd         : 9
 Possible_missed_wins.pgn: 20            Possible_missed_wins.epd: 20
 Drop_in_score.pgn       : 8             Drop_in_score.epd       : 8
 Lost_games.pgn          : 0             Lost_games.epd          : 0
PGN''s and EPD's attached.

I guess this addresses most of the raised issues for the moment.

Interesting to see Stockfish being superior in the mid-game while Lc0 is on par in the endgame, I expected it the other way around. Ha! what do I know about computer chess.

Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:19 pm
by Rebel
Guenther wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:47 am

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115... Nc2 +9.92/29
It is impossible for me to reproduce that incredible score with SF8.
Neither with 5men Syzygy nor with no TBS at all. The score is always between 0.17 and 0.33 for all depths up to 60.
Even Stockfish has bugs.

Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:41 pm
by Rebel
[Event "CCRL 40/15"]
[Site "CCRL"]
[Date "2020.01.19"]
[Round "703.2.691"]
[White "Komodo 13.2.5 MCTS 64-bit"]
[Black "Stockfish 11 64-bit"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B06"]
[Opening "Robatsch defence"]
[PlyCount "148"]
[WhiteElo "3282"]
[BlackElo "3432"]

1. e4 {+0.00/1 0s} g6 {+0.00/1 0s} 2. d4 {+0.00/1 0s} Bg7 {+0.00/1 0s} 3. Nc3
{+0.00/1 0s} c6 {+0.00/1 0s} 4. Be3 {+0.00/1 0s} Qb6 {+0.00/1 0s} 5. Qd2
{+0.73/13 34s} Qxb2 {(d6) -0.07/28 37s} 6. Rb1 {(Rb1) +0.28/11 24s} Qa3 {(Qa3)
+0.00/28 19s} 7. h4 {(Nf3) +0.39/11 34s} h5 {(Nf6) +0.10/27 44s} 8. e5 {(e5)

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Can someone tell me which interface produces this kind of PGN?

And about the move comment:

6. Rb1 {(Rb1) +0.28/11 24s}
7. h4 {(Nf3) +0.39/11 34s}

What does the move (Rb1 / Nf3) mean in the move comment?

Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:25 pm
by Guenther
Rebel wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:19 pm
Guenther wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:47 am

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115... Nc2 +9.92/29
It is impossible for me to reproduce that incredible score with SF8.
Neither with 5men Syzygy nor with no TBS at all. The score is always between 0.17 and 0.33 for all depths up to 60.
Even Stockfish has bugs.
Of course, but we don't know, if it was an SF bug in this case.
Anyhow, you adressed the point given and renamed that category to 'possible missed win' I see ;-)

Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:23 pm
by Rebel
Guenther wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:25 pm
Rebel wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:19 pm
Guenther wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:47 am

Code: Select all

115... Nc2 +9.92/29
It is impossible for me to reproduce that incredible score with SF8.
Neither with 5men Syzygy nor with no TBS at all. The score is always between 0.17 and 0.33 for all depths up to 60.
Even Stockfish has bugs.
Of course, but we don't know, if it was an SF bug in this case.
The alternative would be cutechess, unlikely.
Anyhow, you adressed the point given and renamed that category to 'possible missed win' I see ;-)
Sure, I asked for feedback :wink: