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Re: First knight odds match with IM Saturday

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Thanks, the link did work. I don't how I could've found the live game without it. :( :?
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Re: First knight odds match with IM Saturday

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First game (g1 odds) was a crushing win by Komodo. Ray played natural looking moves, no simple blunders, but soon faced a crushing kingside attack. Game two (b1 odds) underway now.
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Re: First knight odds match with IM Saturday

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Second game (b1 odds) was also won by Komodo, but not so easily. Ray traded his extra knight for a two pawns up endgame, but had poor development and a bad bishop. He should have at least held the draw, but it was too difficult with short time.
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Re: First knight odds match with IM Saturday

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Game 1 Analysis T40.1705

[pgn]
[Event "Live Chess - Odds Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2020.01.04"]
[Round "?"]
[White "PlayKomodo"]
[Black "Mimsychess"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E00"]
[WhiteElo "2960"]
[BlackElo "2428"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "49"]
[EventDate "2020.??.??"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[WhiteClock "0:03:38"]
[BlackClock "0:08:05"]

1. d4 {0 Black is clearly winning.} Nf6 {22} 2. c4 {0} e6 {9} 3. e3 {0} Bb4+ {
36} 4. Bd2 {49} a5 {31} 5. Bd3 {59} d6 {32} 6. Nc3 {38} O-O {34} 7. O-O {64}
Nc6 {63} 8. a3 {67} Bxc3 $1 {18} 9. Bxc3 {9} e5 {20} 10. d5 {32} Ne7 {32} 11.
Re1 {69} a4 {93} 12. f4 {0} Nd7 {20} 13. Bc2 {47} exf4 {63} 14. exf4 {35} Ng6 {
21} (14... Nf6 15. Bxf6 gxf6 16. Qh5 $11) 15. Rf1 {29} Nc5 $2 {-2.42/26 67} (
15... Nf6 {-13.26/10} 16. Bxa4 Ne4) 16. f5 $19 {28} Ne5 {9} 17. f6 {7 [#]
Black must now prevent Qh5.} Bg4 {57} ({Less strong is} 17... gxf6 18. Qh5 $15)
18. Qe1 {0 Strongly threatening Qh4.} Bh5 $1 {26} ({Inferior is} 18... gxf6 19.
Qg3 $11) 19. Qg3 {0} Bg6 $1 {6} 20. h4 {11} h5 $2 {0.15/17 76} ({Not} 20... Re8
21. h5 $1 $11) (20... gxf6 $19 {-2.70/15 aiming for ...Kh8.} 21. h5 Kh8 22.
hxg6 fxg6) 21. fxg7 $40 {30 White attacks.} Re8 $2 {5.55/22 18} (21... Kxg7 $11
{0.08/15 and Black is okay.} 22. Rf5 Ncd7 {15} 23. Xcxd7 Nf6 (23... Kh8 $2 24.
Qf4 $17)) 22. Bxg6 $18 {30 White is clearly winning.} fxg6 {70} 23. Bxe5 $1 {29
} dxe5 {23} 24. Qxg6 {32 [#] Intending Qf7+ and mate.} Qe7 {78} 25. Rf8+ {
0 PlayKomodo won by resignation. Accuracy: White = 51% (12/3/22), Black = 39%
(9/5/24).} 1-0

[/pgn]
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Re: First knight odds match with IM Saturday

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Game 2 Analysis T40.1705

[pgn]
[Event "Live Chess - Odds Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2020.01.04"]
[Round "?"]
[White "PlayKomodo"]
[Black "Mimsychess"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A11"]
[WhiteElo "2960"]
[BlackElo "2428"]
[Annotator "Summers Jr.,Ted"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "87"]
[EventDate "2020.??.??"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[WhiteClock "0:01:22"]
[BlackClock "0:02:27"]

1. Nf3 {-8.81/8 0} (1. Nh3 $142 {-4.21/9}) 1... d5 $19 {62} 2. c4 {0} c6 {23}
3. b3 {55} Nf6 {28} 4. Bb2 {63} g6 {49} 5. e3 {50} Bg7 {14} 6. h3 {56} O-O {13}
7. Rc1 {64} Ne4 {60} 8. Bxg7 {53} Kxg7 {12} 9. Be2 {12} Nd7 {34} 10. O-O {35}
e6 {29} 11. Qc2 {46} Qe7 {67} 12. Qb2+ {39} Qf6 {18} 13. d4 {40} Re8 {38} 14.
Rfd1 {59} a6 {81} 15. b4 {55} Nd6 {100} 16. Ne5 {29} Ne4 {35} 17. Bd3 {44} Nxe5
{86} 18. dxe5 {0} Qh4 {10} 19. a4 {44} a5 {40} 20. f3 {-9.48/12 9} (20. b5 $142
{-4.89/11} Re7 21. cxd5 exd5 22. bxc6) 20... Ng5 {-4.44/15 45} (20... Ng3 $142
{-9.48/12} 21. b5 cxb5 22. cxd5 bxa4) 21. b5 {26} Qg3 {13} 22. Kf1 {10} Nxf3 {
34} 23. gxf3 {23} Qxf3+ {16} 24. Qf2 {23} Qxf2+ $1 {10} ({Don't take} 24...
Qxh3+ 25. Ke1 $19) 25. Kxf2 {0} Re7 {-2.06/13 49} (25... Bd7 $142 {-3.75/13}
26. Be2 Red8) 26. Be2 {32} f6 {15} 27. exf6+ {26} Kxf6 {5} 28. cxd5 {10} cxd5 {
7} 29. Bf3 {6} Bd7 {28} 30. e4 {23} dxe4 {54} 31. Bxe4 {0} Rc8 $1 {17} 32. Rxc8
{0} Bxc8 $17 {6 Endgame KRB-KRB} 33. Rd8 {-1.76/20 8} (33. Rc1 $17 {-1.11/20}
Bd7 34. Rc7) 33... Rc7 $1 $19 {7} 34. b6 {7} Rc4 $1 {7} 35. Ke3 {7} e5 {20} 36.
h4 {32} Be6 $2 {-0.08/14 33 [#]} (36... Bf5 $1 $19 {-2.01/19} 37. Bxb7 Rb4) 37.
Rf8+ $11 {55} Kg7 {39} 38. Rb8 {0} Rb4 {19} 39. Rxb7+ {24} Kf6 $2 {2.07/22 3} (
39... Kh6 $1 $11 {0.08/12 and Black has nothing to worry.}) 40. Rb8 $18 {
39 [#] Black must now prevent b7. White has strong compensation.} Rb3+ {
3.10/20 2} (40... Bf5 $142 {2.06/19} 41. Bd5 Ke7) 41. Kd2 $1 {22 And now b7
would win.} Rb2+ $2 {7.74/18 2} (41... Bf5 {3.04/19} 42. Bd5 Rb2+ 43. Ke3 Ke7)
42. Kc1 {21 White is clearly winning.} Rb4 {6} 43. b7 {21} Rc4+ {13} 44. Bc2 {
27 PlayKomodo won by resignation <br /><br /><em>Game may have continued...</
em>. Accuracy: White = 42% (23/3/40), Black = 36% (16/10/43).} (44. Bc2 Rb4 45.
Rf8+ Bf7 46. b8=Q Rxb8 47. Rxb8 h6 48. Rb6+ Kg7 49. Rb5 Kf6 50. Rxa5 g5 51.
Ra6+ Kg7 52. hxg5 hxg5 53. Bf5 Bh5 54. Kd2 g4 55. Ke3 e4 56. Bxe4 g3 57. Kf4 g2
58. Bxg2) 1-0

[/pgn]
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Re: First knight odds match with IM Saturday

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Third game something strange happened. Play reached an obviously drawn rook and knight (Ray) vs rook and pawn endgame, tablebase draw, and Ray naturally offered a draw. I had no way to accept for playkomodo, and for unknown reasons it just froze and refused to move until time ran out, then disconnected. I don't know if the draw offer caused the problem, or the tablebase position, or if it was just a random disconnection. Anyway although it is officially a win for Ray, for our purpose of judging where Komodo stands at knight odds it was a draw. We'll figure out what the problem was with time.
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Re: First knight odds match with IM Saturday

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AdminX wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:25 am Game 2 Analysis T40.1705

[pgn]
[Event "Live Chess - Odds Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2020.01.04"]
[Round "?"]
[White "PlayKomodo"]
[Black "Mimsychess"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A11"]
[WhiteElo "2960"]
[BlackElo "2428"]
[Annotator "Summers Jr.,Ted"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "87"]
[EventDate "2020.??.??"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[WhiteClock "0:01:22"]
[BlackClock "0:02:27"]

1. Nf3 {-8.81/8 0} (1. Nh3 $142 {-4.21/9}) 1... d5 $19 {62} 2. c4 {0} c6 {23}
3. b3 {55} Nf6 {28} 4. Bb2 {63} g6 {49} 5. e3 {50} Bg7 {14} 6. h3 {56} O-O {13}
7. Rc1 {64} Ne4 {60} 8. Bxg7 {53} Kxg7 {12} 9. Be2 {12} Nd7 {34} 10. O-O {35}
e6 {29} 11. Qc2 {46} Qe7 {67} 12. Qb2+ {39} Qf6 {18} 13. d4 {40} Re8 {38} 14.
Rfd1 {59} a6 {81} 15. b4 {55} Nd6 {100} 16. Ne5 {29} Ne4 {35} 17. Bd3 {44} Nxe5
{86} 18. dxe5 {0} Qh4 {10} 19. a4 {44} a5 {40} 20. f3 {-9.48/12 9} (20. b5 $142
{-4.89/11} Re7 21. cxd5 exd5 22. bxc6) 20... Ng5 {-4.44/15 45} (20... Ng3 $142
{-9.48/12} 21. b5 cxb5 22. cxd5 bxa4) 21. b5 {26} Qg3 {13} 22. Kf1 {10} Nxf3 {
34} 23. gxf3 {23} Qxf3+ {16} 24. Qf2 {23} Qxf2+ $1 {10} ({Don't take} 24...
Qxh3+ 25. Ke1 $19) 25. Kxf2 {0} Re7 {-2.06/13 49} (25... Bd7 $142 {-3.75/13}
26. Be2 Red8) 26. Be2 {32} f6 {15} 27. exf6+ {26} Kxf6 {5} 28. cxd5 {10} cxd5 {
7} 29. Bf3 {6} Bd7 {28} 30. e4 {23} dxe4 {54} 31. Bxe4 {0} Rc8 $1 {17} 32. Rxc8
{0} Bxc8 $17 {6 Endgame KRB-KRB} 33. Rd8 {-1.76/20 8} (33. Rc1 $17 {-1.11/20}
Bd7 34. Rc7) 33... Rc7 $1 $19 {7} 34. b6 {7} Rc4 $1 {7} 35. Ke3 {7} e5 {20} 36.
h4 {32} Be6 $2 {-0.08/14 33 [#]} (36... Bf5 $1 $19 {-2.01/19} 37. Bxb7 Rb4) 37.
Rf8+ $11 {55} Kg7 {39} 38. Rb8 {0} Rb4 {19} 39. Rxb7+ {24} Kf6 $2 {2.07/22 3} (
39... Kh6 $1 $11 {0.08/12 and Black has nothing to worry.}) 40. Rb8 $18 {
39 [#] Black must now prevent b7. White has strong compensation.} Rb3+ {
3.10/20 2} (40... Bf5 $142 {2.06/19} 41. Bd5 Ke7) 41. Kd2 $1 {22 And now b7
would win.} Rb2+ $2 {7.74/18 2} (41... Bf5 {3.04/19} 42. Bd5 Rb2+ 43. Ke3 Ke7)
42. Kc1 {21 White is clearly winning.} Rb4 {6} 43. b7 {21} Rc4+ {13} 44. Bc2 {
27 PlayKomodo won by resignation <br /><br /><em>Game may have continued...</
em>. Accuracy: White = 42% (23/3/40), Black = 36% (16/10/43).} (44. Bc2 Rb4 45.
Rf8+ Bf7 46. b8=Q Rxb8 47. Rxb8 h6 48. Rb6+ Kg7 49. Rb5 Kf6 50. Rxa5 g5 51.
Ra6+ Kg7 52. hxg5 hxg5 53. Bf5 Bh5 54. Kd2 g4 55. Ke3 e4 56. Bxe4 g3 57. Kf4 g2
58. Bxg2) 1-0

[/pgn]
Note the comment to move one, where 1Nh3? is said to cut the handicap in half compared to 1Nf3!! This shows just how horrible the NN engines are when down a piece (11248 and relatives exempted). Better to use stockfish or Komodo to analyze knight odds games.
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Re: First knight odds match with IM Saturday

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Fourth game similar problem. Komodo allowed Ray to reach rook and two pawns vs rook because it was a TB draw, but once there it just refused to move and timed out. No draw offer involved, so it's clearly related to TB, and it doesn't seem to happen on my own pc, just on chess.com. Anyway official score 2 to 2, but with TB adjudication it would be 2 wins for K and 2 draws.
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Re: First knight odds match with IM Saturday

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lkaufman wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:35 am Fourth game similar problem. Komodo allowed Ray to reach rook and two pawns vs rook because it was a TB draw, but once there it just refused to move and timed out. No draw offer involved, so it's clearly related to TB, and it doesn't seem to happen on my own pc, just on chess.com. Anyway official score 2 to 2, but with TB adjudication it would be 2 wins for K and 2 draws.
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Re: First knight odds match with IM Saturday

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Game 3: Ray remained a knight ahead well into the endgame with only the bishop pair as compensation for Komodo, but Komodo managed to exchange Ray's last pawn to reach an obviously drawn rook and pawn vs rook and knight endgame, TB draw.

[pgn][Event "Live Chess - knight odds"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2020.Jan.4"]
[Round "3"]
[White "PlayKomodo"]
[Black "Mimsychess(IM Raymond Kaufman)"]
[Result "0-1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]

1. e4 c5 2. d3 Nc6 3. Be2 g6 4. O-O Bg7 5. c3 e5 6. f4 exf4 7. Bxf4 d6 8. Na3
Nge7 9. Nb5 Be5 10. Bh6 a6 11. d4 cxd4 12. cxd4 axb5 13. dxe5 dxe5 14. Qxd8+
Nxd8 15. Bg7 Rg8 16. Bxe5 Bd7 17. a3 Ne6 18. Rae1 Rc8 19. Bc3 g5 20. Rf2 Nf4 21.
Bf1 Bc6 22. g3 Ne6 23. Rf5 Bxe4 24. Rxb5 Bc6 25. Rbe5 Rd8 26. b4 Rd5 27. Rxd5
Bxd5 28. Bb5+ Bc6 29. Bd3 h5 30. Bh7 Rf8 31. Bf6 Kd7 32. Rd1+ Ke8 33. Re1 b5 34.
Bd3 Nd5 35. Bxg5 Kd7 36. Bc1 h4 37. gxh4 Ndf4 38. Bf1 Rh8 39. Re5 Rxh4 40. Bxb5
Bxb5 41. Bxf4 Nxf4 42. Rxb5 Ke6 43. Rb8 Kf5 44. b5 Rh3 45. a4 Ra3 46. b6 Rxa4
47. Rf8 Rb4 48. Rxf7+ Ke4 49. Kf2 Rxb6 50. Re7+ Kf5 0-1[/pgn]
Ray offered a draw here but we had no way to accept it, and although Komodo knew it was a TableBase draw, it refused to move and timed out here for unknown reason.
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