mwyoung wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:41 am
With a few simple tweaks this net series is testing 50 to 60 elo better then default settings.
Share your Settings please.
+1
I dont know your hardware or net or setting. But for the new T61000 nets. And other large nets. Change the temperature policy. Default is way too high. This is one of the main parameters to change. Set it from 2.2 to 2.0. This should help a lot.
What this does is narrows the search allowing for a much deeper search in some positions. This cures many of the tactical oversights seen in default setting.
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mwyoung wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:41 am
With a few simple tweaks this net series is testing 50 to 60 elo better then default settings.
Share your Settings please.
+1
I dont know your hardware or net or setting. But for the new T61000 nets. And other large nets. Change the temperature policy. Default is way too high. This is one of the main parameters to change. Set it from 2.2 to 2.0. This should help a lot.
What this does is narrows the search allowing for a much deeper search in some positions. This cures many of the tactical oversights seen in default setting.
In the Lc0 network page, what is the "run" 1 or 2 indicate? And why is T50 series network file is smaller in size compared to T40 or T60 series?
Appreciate if someone can throw light on these.
bmp1974 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:24 am
In the Lc0 network page, what is the "run" 1 or 2 indicate? And why is T50 series network file is smaller in size compared to T40 or T60 series?
Appreciate if someone can throw light on these.
The run 1 and 2 just indicate that 2 networks are being trained. Run 1 is T60, and 2 is for T50.
T50 is designed to run on weaker hardware like a CPU or slow GPU and still get good performance only 128 filters.
T40 with a filter size of 256 was the previous top performer on the Lc0 network page.
T60 with more filters 320 is an attempt to surpass the T40 networks. The theory is bigger nets should play stronger as they take longer to saturate. Meaning they can be trained longer with elo gains.
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But my words like silent raindrops fell. And echoed in the wells of silence.
bmp1974 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:24 am
In the Lc0 network page, what is the "run" 1 or 2 indicate? And why is T50 series network file is smaller in size compared to T40 or T60 series?
Appreciate if someone can throw light on these.
The run 1 and 2 just indicate that 2 networks are being trained. Run 1 is T60, and 2 is for T50.
T50 is designed to run on weaker hardware like a CPU or slow GPU and still get good performance only 128 filters.
T40 with a filter size of 256 was the previous top performer on the Lc0 network page.
T60 with more filters 320 is an attempt to surpass the T40 networks. The theory is bigger nets should play stronger as they take longer to saturate. Meaning they can be trained longer with elo gains.
Very interesting thread and I understand that with short time controls a small net is necessary as the large one would not have enough time for searching "sufficient" nodes. But how many nodes are sufficient? Is there a minimum number of nodes lc0 should be able to search with any net? If not then the largest net would always be the best.
Hamster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:04 am
Very interesting thread and I understand that with short time controls a small net is necessary as the large one would not have enough time for searching "sufficient" nodes. But how many nodes are sufficient? Is there a minimum number of nodes lc0 should be able to search with any net? If not then the largest net would always be the best.
If you have a fast card, as in any RTX card. I would not mess around with the smaller nets at any time control. On this hardware the big nets are still best IMO.
And if running a slow card, or CPU. That would be the only time I would run use the smaller nets.
"The worst thing that can happen to a forum is a running wild attacking moderator(HGM) who is not corrected by the community." - Ed Schröder
But my words like silent raindrops fell. And echoed in the wells of silence.