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Werewolf wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:57 pm

AdminX wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:41 am If there were one engine I could bring back and covert to WB/UCI protocols, it would be Marty Hirsch's Mchess.

You know you can run it easily on a modern PC? It's not as good as a UCI conversion but it and loads of other oldies are running well

Yeah, I know and love it.

AdminX wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:41 am If there were one engine I could bring back and covert to WB/UCI protocols, it would be Marty Hirsch's Mchess.

Exactly what I was thinking when I first read the topic of this post. I still use it now and then using DOS BOX

Mac Hack VI or Chess 4.5

But with Lazy SMP and Syzygy support.
Just to see how well those ancient engines would do on modern hardware + opening book + tablebase.

PK wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:48 am Psion Chess by Richard Lang (https://www.retrogames.cz/play_430-DOS.php) I played a lot of games against it as a boy, and over the course of one summer holiday proceeded from losing at level one to winning at next-to-last level. I remember the engine as very stable, level-headed opponent. Also, it did have some form of (limited) learning.

I concur. I actually once hacked dropbox to screen scrape the Psion Chess screen (a bitmap!) to read its moves so that it could be used as a UCI engine but I became appalled by the ugliness of this approach, and I did not complete the protocol part. It would be much nicer to read Psion Chess' memory directly but unfortunately I am bad at reverse engineering.

Steve Maughan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:16 pm +1 for MChess.

A couple of years ago I briefly corresponded with Marty. At that time he didn't rule out a new version of MChess. It had "maybe-one-day" status.

Steve

Ask Marty for the source code?

It's all we need to move these oldies into the 21th century.

Hi Ed - I've sent an email. Let's see what happens!

Steve

Rebel wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:19 pm Ask Marty for the source code?

It's all we need to move these oldies into the 21th century.

BrendanJNorman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:50 am

AdminX wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:41 am If there were one engine I could bring back and covert to WB/UCI protocols, it would be Marty Hirsch's Mchess.

MChess is great. But I think I'd like to try Socrates or maybe even better, Chess System Tal as a UCI/WB engine.

Either of those would be fantastic...but so would MChess of course.

(Did my posts of today get you thinking about Golden Oldies? )

As someone who has the source code of chess system tal, I would honestly like to bring Cstal into uci.

Also Mchess and chess tiger are good candidates.

They all have something no other engine has.

Steve Maughan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:49 pm Hi Ed - I've sent an email. Let's see what happens!

Steve

Rebel wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:19 pm Ask Marty for the source code?

It's all we need to move these oldies into the 21th century.

I am in contact with marty on a manly basis.

I tried to convince him to port it to uci.

But so far unsuccessful.

Raphexon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:00 pm Mac Hack VI or Chess 4.5

But with Lazy SMP and Syzygy support.
Just to see how well those ancient engines would do on modern hardware + opening book + tablebase.

If ancient I would prefer the selective engines, not the a strategy engines,

Werewolf wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:57 pm

AdminX wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:41 am If there were one engine I could bring back and covert to WB/UCI protocols, it would be Marty Hirsch's Mchess.

You know you can run it easily on a modern PC? It's not as good as a UCI conversion but it and loads of other oldies are running well

I run mchess on my mobile android phone, works very well,