Searching for ANCIENT Engines: Bringer 1.4 and Lamb Chop 7.10

[BrendanJNorman]

Does anyone still have these ancient engines?

Bringer 1.4 and/or Lamb Chop 7.10?

I'm finding really old engines interesting lately.

[jdart]

LambChop 7.10:

https://www.arasanchess.org/lambchop.zip

I have Bringer, too, but only a more recent version (1.9).

--Jon

[BrendanJNorman]

LambChop 7.10:

https://www.arasanchess.org/lambchop.zip

I have Bringer, too, but only a more recent version (1.9).

--Jon

Thanks Jon! Much appreciated.

About Bringer, yeah I have the earlier version 1.7 too, but according to some opinions (here one: http://www.chess2u.com/t8750-der-bringer-1-4), version 1.4 was especially great.

[tmokonen]

I have uploaded my Bringer collection, which includes version 1.4

https://mega.nz/#F!75VHhA6T!S61JVJlLIWZDe4jKe_cL8A

Does anyone have a version earlier than 1.4?

[BrendanJNorman]

I have uploaded my Bringer collection, which includes version 1.4

https://mega.nz/#F!75VHhA6T!S61JVJlLIWZDe4jKe_cL8A

Does anyone have a version earlier than 1.4?

Thanks Tony!

First you come through with the Thinker archive and now Bringer...much appreciated buddy!

[Guenther]

LambChop 7.10:

https://www.arasanchess.org/lambchop.zip

I have Bringer, too, but only a more recent version (1.9).

--Jon

It looks like this is version 10.88 together with an old readme.
I had already 10.87 (bought with WB Edition 2 in 2001) and 10.99.

[Guenther]

(Jon has saved 10.88 as 7.10; 7.10 was released either late 1998 or in 1999)

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Leo Dijksman 	
19.05.02
Nachricht auf Deutsch übersetzen  
Hi,
Peter McKenzie have released LambChop 10.88 for free now.
LanbChop is Winboard and UCI compitable, for info how to use
under winboard:
http://home.hccnet.nl/leo.dijksman/EnginesIndex.html

Use the "L" link at the top of that page.

Leo.

A blast from the real past below ;-)

One of the first mentionings of Lambchop 7.10 in the wb forum (even before Franks first newsticker started in 1999/10)
http://www.open-aurec.com/wbforum/viewt ... op#p115175

from rec.games.chess.computer (newsgroup later incorporated by google groups)
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searc ... xaIqkRMxQJ

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Komputer Korner 	
29.10.98

Komputer Korner's List of Freeware Chess  Programs - version 97

...

G) Free Programs that work with Winboard/Xboard
------------------------------------------------
1)Crafty : ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu:/pub/hyatt
2)GnuChess : delivered with winboard
3)The Crazy Bishop :
  http://www-ensimag.imag.fr/eleves/Remi.Coulom/tcb.htm
4)CometA90 :  http://www.gambitsoft.com/gambit1e.htm
5)Arasan :  http://www.best.com/~jdart/arasan.htm
6)ExChess :  http://www.astro.brandeis.edu/BRAG/people/dch/chess.html
7)Tristram :  http://home.fda.net/~wzrdking/
8)SSEChess :  http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/slutzksn/chess.html
9)Phalanx 17
  ftp://ftp.math.muni.cz/pub/math/people/Dobes/phalanx-16.tar.gz
10)Z Chess  http://www.worldnet.net/~fzibi/zchess.htm
11)Gromit X  http://www.gambitsoft.com/gambit1e.htm
12)Little Goliath
   ftp://ftp.pitt.edu/group/student-activities/chess/PROG/
13)Rival   http://www.gambitsoft.com/sharee.htm
14)Fortress http://www.cent.co.yu/chess/free.htm
15)Olipow  http://www.phy.uni-bayreuth.de/~btp434/
16)Lambchop http://www.cent.co.yu/chess/

[Guenther]

I have uploaded my Bringer collection, which includes version 1.4

https://mega.nz/#F!75VHhA6T!S61JVJlLIWZDe4jKe_cL8A

Does anyone have a version earlier than 1.4?

BTW if someone needs this info, it saves the ini file, at least here on WIN7, in the root folder of C:\Windows.
(contains hash and tablebase settings etc.)

[Peter Berger]

About Bringer, yeah I have the earlier version 1.7 too, but according to some opinions (here one: http://www.chess2u.com/t8750-der-bringer-1-4), version 1.4 was especially great.

Well, people do tend to have and post these kinds of opinions. As the one, who is probably the one person on earth who has viewed the second most games of Bringer, I can't confirm this suspicion. Bringer never was too human-like, but it was strong at its time. To the contrary I believe that its strength must have been its search. There were some versions back then, that behaved like modern engines with an inbelieably low branching factor, so Gerrit probably had some cool search tricks for then standards. And the improvement was very steady, he probably had some good testing set-up. He never published a version without improvements.

I used to love Gromit 2.1, and thought that it was very human-like. So I was lured into buying Fritz17 because of the engine, that didn't impress me much.

Peter

[tmokonen]

Lambchop 7.10 and others, including 6.70:

https://mega.nz/#F!G1ESBYKC!voPEcdUyW5nDe0eG-xxnAA