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Borderline endgame #3

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:11 pm
by Nordlandia
Slight modification over 2r1bk2/pp4pp/1nn5/8/4P3/2N2P2/PP1R2PP/3R2K1 w - - 0 1 | That is presumably winning for white
[d]2r1bk2/pp3pp1/1nn5/8/4P3/2N2P2/PP1R2PP/3R2K1 w - - 0 1

Long TC game with decent hardware in case on Leela vs Stockfish and vice versa will be appreciated.

Re: Borderline endgame #3

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:21 pm
by Nordlandia
Not exactly long TC.

[pgn][Event "?"]
[Site "i7-5960X 4.5GHz"]
[Date "2019.11.25"]
[Round "?"]
[White "lc0"]
[Black "stockfish_19112400_x64_bmi2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[FEN "2r1bk2/pp3pp1/1nn5/8/4P3/2N2P2/PP1R2PP/3R2K1 w - - 0 1"]
[GameDuration "00:35:11"]
[GameEndTime "2019-11-25T17:20:12.218 Vest-Europa (normaltid)"]
[GameStartTime "2019-11-25T16:45:00.315 Vest-Europa (normaltid)"]
[PlyCount "100"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[TimeControl "600+10"]

1. Rc2 {+1.33/11 18s} Nb4 {-0.97/33 21s} 2. Rcc1 {+1.44/11 10s}
a5 {-0.78/32 19s} 3. a3 {+1.58/13 18s} Na6 {-0.78/30 9.8s} 4. Ne2 {+1.66/12 17s}
Rc5 {-0.85/38 35s} 5. b3 {+1.93/12 21s} a4 {-0.88/30 8.5s}
6. Rxc5 {+1.88/14 37s} Nxc5 {-0.92/34 13s} 7. bxa4 {+1.88/13 0.26s}
Nbxa4 {-0.97/36 44s} 8. h4 {+1.88/12 29s} f6 {-1.40/36 55s}
9. Kh2 {+1.88/13 16s} Ne6 {-1.43/34 32s} 10. Nd4 {+2.01/12 24s}
Kf7 {-1.35/37 13s} 11. Nxe6 {+2.07/11 26s} Kxe6 {-1.39/35 9.1s}
12. g4 {+2.02/11 35s} Bc6 {-1.72/38 30s} 13. Kg3 {+1.95/11 20s}
Nb6 {-1.61/43 25s} 14. Rd4 {+1.90/11 21s} g5 {-1.94/44 47s}
15. h5 {+1.85/11 12s} Nd7 {-1.94/45 8.9s} 16. Rc4 {+1.81/11 32s}
Ne5 {-1.83/44 8.1s} 17. Rd4 {+1.76/13 26s} Ke7 {-1.85/44 21s}
18. f4 {+1.81/13 14s} Nd7 {-3.48/35 44s} 19. Rc4 {+2.03/14 13s}
Nb6 {-4.35/39 100s} 20. Rc5 {+2.25/16 17s} Nd7 {-4.39/35 6.3s}
21. Ra5 {+2.26/18 10s} gxf4+ {-7.05/34 79s} 22. Kxf4 {+2.24/21 12s}
Kf7 {-8.76/34 46s} 23. Kf5 {+2.30/18 8.6s} Ne5 {-4.44/32 7.0s}
24. g5 {+2.42/18 20s} Nc4 {-6.72/35 21s} 25. g6+ {+2.52/18 15s}
Kg7 {-6.31/34 6.4s} 26. Ra8 {+2.56/18 12s} Bd7+ {-8.02/35 20s}
27. Kf4 {+2.52/17 0.036s} Nb2 {-5.79/34 15s} 28. a4 {+2.73/17 41s}
Nd3+ {-8.84/35 15s} 29. Ke3 {+2.76/16 14s} Nc5 {-7.89/34 24s}
30. a5 {+2.80/16 29s} Bg4 {-12.03/36 68s} 31. Rd8 {+2.84/16 21s}
Bd7 {-12.80/34 11s} 32. Kf3 {+2.82/16 18s} Bc6 {-12.59/33 5.3s}
33. Rc8 {+2.83/15 19s} Ne6 {-14.17/35 41s} 34. Kg4 {+2.87/13 14s}
Bb5 {-11.76/30 13s} 35. e5 {+3.32/15 91s} Bd7 {-14.23/28 20s}
36. Rc3 {+3.28/17 0.23s} Nd4+ {-11.11/23 3.0s} 37. Kh4 {+3.67/13 19s}
Bc6 {-15.99/25 18s} 38. exf6+ {+4.16/13 24s} Kxf6 {-5.15/21 2.9s}
39. Rd3 {+4.39/12 11s} Nf5+ {-18.52/25 17s} 40. Kg4 {+4.29/12 15s}
Bd5 {-19.28/24 10s} 41. Kf4 {+4.27/11 37s} Ne7 {-67.41/28 10s}
42. Rd2 {+4.70/11 20s} Be6 {-147.92/31 10s} 43. Rd6 {+5.12/11 16s}
Nd5+ {-147.92/27 10s} 44. Ke4 {+5.43/10 18s} Nc3+ {-147.92/27 10s}
45. Kd3 {+6.39/10 36s} Nd5 {-147.92/28 10s} 46. h6 {+7.63/9 14s}
Nf4+ {-149.00/29 10.0s} 47. Kd4 {+8.63/9 28s} Ne2+ {-149.01/31 3.4s}
48. Kc5 {+14.02/8 32s} Nf4 {-149.00/32 9.9s} 49. g7 {+17.73/7 15s}
Kf7 {-149.02/39 10s} 50. Rd8 {+23.41/7 15s}
Kg6 {-149.05/42 4.7s, White wins by adjudication} 1-0
[/pgn]

Re: Borderline endgame #3

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:08 am
by peter
Hi Jon!
Nordlandia wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:21 pm Not exactly long TC.
Guess it's lost, yet Black could set up some more fight than in your game.
Here with some more hardware- TC:

[pgn][Event "Jon, Lang 60m+15s"]
[Site "mine"]
[Date "2019.11.25"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Lc0 v0.22.0 2x RTX2080 Ti syz"]
[Black "Moonfish 191119 64 POPCNT"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Annotator "1.36;0.93"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "2r1bk2/pp3pp1/1nn5/8/4P3/2N2P2/PP1R2PP/3R2K1 w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "121"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]

1. Rc2 Rb8 2. h4 {[%eval 136,17] [%emt 0:00:34]} a5 {[%eval 93,38] [%emt 0:04:
34] (f6)} 3. g4 {[%eval 152,16] [%emt 0:01:02] (h5)} f6 {[%eval 103,36] [%emt
0:02:23]} 4. h5 {[%eval 150,22] [%emt 0:00:25]} a4 {[%eval 120,39] [%emt 0:05:
11] (Sb4)} 5. Kf2 {[%eval 153,23] [%emt 0:01:26]} Ne5 {[%eval 120,37] [%emt 0:
00:50]} 6. Kg3 {[%eval 154,30] [%emt 0:00:37]} Nbc4 {[%eval 129,36] [%emt 0:00:
42]} 7. Re2 {[%eval 148,29] [%emt 0:00:32]} Nf7 {[%eval 123,38] [%emt 0:07:02]
(Ld7)} 8. Nd5 {[%eval 167,18] [%emt 0:02:20] (f4)} Bc6 {[%eval 110,34] [%emt 0:
00:37]} 9. Rd4 {[%eval 163,20] [%emt 0:00:18]} Ncd6 {[%eval 110,37] [%emt 0:00:
17]} 10. Nb4 {[%eval 161,19] [%emt 0:03:54] (Sf4)} a3 {[%eval 120,36] [%emt 0:
01:02] (Le8)} 11. b3 {[%eval 175,18] [%emt 0:01:20]} Nb5 {[%eval 146,41] [%emt
0:00:38]} 12. Rdd2 {[%eval 173,16] [%emt 0:00:36] (Td3)} Re8 {[%eval 148,43]
[%emt 0:06:23] (Le8)} 13. Re1 {[%eval 177,16] [%emt 0:01:47]} Re6 {[%eval 142,
47] [%emt 0:00:00] (Sfd6)} 14. Rc1 {[%eval 175,15] [%emt 0:01:34]} Kg8 {[%eval
142,48] [%emt 0:00:00] (Sfd6)} 15. Nxc6 {[%eval 178,20] [%emt 0:01:38] (Kf2)}
bxc6 {[%eval 141,48] [%emt 0:00:51]} 16. Rd7 {[%eval 174,23] [%emt 0:00:06]}
Kf8 {[%eval 141,47] [%emt 0:00:57]} 17. Rcd1 {[%eval 167,24] [%emt 0:04:07]
(Tc2)} Re8 {[%eval 164,44] [%emt 0:00:26]} 18. R7d2 {[%eval 170,25] [%emt 0:01:
35] (Tc1)} Kg8 {[%eval 164,49] [%emt 0:00:45]} 19. Rd7 {[%eval 175,20] [%emt 0:
00:00] (Tc1)} Nc3 {[%eval 163,44] [%emt 0:00:35] (Te5)} 20. R1d2 {[%eval 182,
29] [%emt 0:01:01]} Nb5 {[%eval 164,51] [%emt 0:00:23]} 21. Rc2 {[%eval 184,35]
[%emt 0:00:24]} Rc8 {[%eval 164,51] [%emt 0:00:09] (Te6)} 22. Rc5 {[%eval 204,
18] [%emt 0:02:04] (Tc1)} Ne5 {[%eval 164,52] [%emt 0:01:05] (Sg5)} 23. Rd1 {
[%eval 225,17] [%emt 0:01:43]} Nf7 {[%eval 164,55] [%emt 0:00:00]} 24. Kf4 {
[%eval 215,17] [%emt 0:03:26] (f4)} Kf8 {[%eval 164,52] [%emt 0:00:49]} 25. Ke3
{[%eval 218,20] [%emt 0:00:01]} Ke7 {[%eval 164,52] [%emt 0:01:57]} 26. f4 {
[%eval 210,17] [%emt 0:01:09]} Nbd6 {[%eval 164,52] [%emt 0:00:14]} 27. Rd4 {
[%eval 217,16] [%emt 0:03:11] (Tdc1)} Ke6 {[%eval 164,50] [%emt 0:00:54] (Sb5)}
28. Kf3 {[%eval 223,13] [%emt 0:01:30] (Td1)} Ke7 {[%eval 164,50] [%emt 0:00:
50]} 29. Rd3 {[%eval 222,16] [%emt 0:00:37] (Tc1)} Ke6 {[%eval 187,50] [%emt 0:
08:42] (Sb7)} 30. Rd4 {[%eval 222,14] [%emt 0:01:59] (b4)} Ke7 {[%eval 263,39]
[%emt 0:03:02] (Sb7)} 31. Rd3 {[%eval 217,14] [%emt 0:01:14]} Ke6 {[%eval 272,
40] [%emt 0:01:34] (Sb7)} 32. Rd1 {[%eval 219,14] [%emt 0:01:21] (b4)} Ke7 {
[%eval 281,40] [%emt 0:03:46]} 33. Ke3 {[%eval 211,17] [%emt 0:01:48] (b4)} Nb7
{[%eval 195,36] [%emt 0:00:30]} 34. Rc2 {[%eval 212,16] [%emt 0:01:27] (Tcc1)}
Nbd6 {[%eval 223,39] [%emt 0:01:46]} 35. Rd3 {[%eval 213,17] [%emt 0:01:21]
(Tc5)} Nd8 {[%eval 238,38] [%emt 0:01:09] (Sh6)} 36. Rc1 {[%eval 218,15] [%emt
0:00:24] (Td1)} Nb5 {[%eval 213,38] [%emt 0:00:35] (S8f7)} 37. Rcd1 {[%eval
218,17] [%emt 0:01:03] (Tdd1)} Nf7 {[%eval 186,36] [%emt 0:00:33]} 38. Rd7+ {
[%eval 205,17] [%emt 0:02:11]} Ke8 {[%eval 245,42] [%emt 0:01:34]} 39. R1d2 {
[%eval 208,17] [%emt 0:01:38]} Nc7 {[%eval 237,41] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kf8)} 40.
R7d4 {[%eval 216,17] [%emt 0:01:01]} Nb5 {[%eval 164,48] [%emt 0:00:00]} 41.
Rc4 {[%eval 214,18] [%emt 0:00:51]} Nbd6 {[%eval 164,45] [%emt 0:00:00] (Ke7)}
42. Rc5 {[%eval 215,15] [%emt 0:01:08]} Ke7 {[%eval 164,48] [%emt 0:00:00]
(Sb7)} 43. Rd3 {[%eval 212,15] [%emt 0:00:53]} Nb7 {[%eval 223,46] [%emt 0:03:
13]} 44. Rc4 {[%eval 204,18] [%emt 0:02:40] (Tc2)} Nfd6 {[%eval 179,31] [%emt
0:00:16] (Sbd6)} 45. Rcd4 {[%eval 215,18] [%emt 0:00:40] (Tc1)} c5 {[%eval 193,
34] [%emt 0:01:01]} 46. Rd5 {[%eval 222,26] [%emt 0:01:01] (Ta4)} c4 {[%eval
199,34] [%emt 0:00:32]} 47. bxc4 {[%eval 228,19] [%emt 0:00:01]} Nxc4+ {[%eval
287,34] [%emt 0:00:54]} 48. Kf3 {[%eval 214,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc5 {[%eval
295,34] [%emt 0:00:34]} 49. Rc3 {[%eval 209,22] [%emt 0:00:03]} Na4 {[%eval
294,35] [%emt 0:01:04] (Sb7)} 50. Rb3 {[%eval 213,19] [%emt 0:01:45]} Nab6 {
[%eval 290,38] [%emt 0:00:00]} 51. Rd4 {[%eval 214,19] [%emt 0:03:50] (Tdd3)}
Rc6 {[%eval 317,32] [%emt 0:00:32]} 52. Rdd3 {[%eval 215,18] [%emt 0:00:00]}
Kf8 {[%eval 308,36] [%emt 0:01:04] (Kf7)} 53. Rb5 {[%eval 237,20] [%emt 0:00:
44] (Tb4)} Nd6 {[%eval 312,31] [%emt 0:00:11]} 54. Ra5 {[%eval 231,18] [%emt 0:
00:10]} Nbc4 {[%eval 327,34] [%emt 0:00:11]} 55. Ra7 {[%eval 221,18] [%emt 0:
01:48] (Ta8+)} Rc8 {[%eval 350,31] [%emt 0:00:22] (Kg8)} 56. Rd7 {[%eval 252,
18] [%emt 0:00:14]} Kg8 {[%eval 353,32] [%emt 0:00:07] (Sf7)} 57. Rd5 {[%eval
266,20] [%emt 0:00:30]} Nf7 {[%eval 406,35] [%emt 0:00:34]} 58. Re7 {[%eval
257,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ncd6 {[%eval 504,31] [%emt 0:00:53]} 59. g5 {[%eval
269,17] [%emt 0:00:54]} Kf8 {[%eval 561,32] [%emt 0:00:00] (fxg5)} 60. Ra7 {
[%eval 310,15] [%emt 0:00:36]} fxg5 {[%eval 606,30] [%emt 0:00:03]} 61. fxg5 {
[%eval 323,14] [%emt 0:00:17] adjud.} 1-0
[/pgn]

LC0 was 2xRTX 2080Ti net 49921, SF (Moonfish Jörg Oster) 24 threads of 12x3GHz 8 G hash, 60'+15". 6men Syzygys.
Times and evals stored.

Re: Borderline endgame #3

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:50 am
by Nordlandia
Hi Peter!

I plan to purchase another RTX 2080 Super on Black Friday.

This endgame occured in a 5+5 blitz game between Fat Fritz RTX and SF 10 (default contempt)

What is the analysis. I manually adjudicated it as draw because the eval was stuck on +2 / 2.5. It might be winning with deep analysis.

[d]6k1/8/8/2R4p/5B1P/6PK/2p1q1B1/8 w - - 0 48

Re: Borderline endgame #3

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:56 pm
by peter
Nordlandia wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:50 am It might be winning with deep analysis.
[d]6k1/8/8/2R4p/5B1P/6PK/2p1q1B1/8 w - - 0 48
Yes, probably.

24 threads of 12x3GHz CPU, 32G hash, 6men- Syzygys, Contempt 0, after some Forward- Backward :

6k1/8/8/2R4p/5B1P/6PK/2p1q1B1/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Moonfish 191119 64 POPCNT:

48.Rc3 Qf2 49.Rc8+ Kg7 50.Kh2 Qe2 51.Rc7+ Kg8 52.Bg5 Kf8 53.Rc8+ Kg7 54.Rc6 Kf7 55.Rf6+ Kg7 56.Rf3 Qd1 57.Rf1 Kg6 58.Be3 Qe2 59.Bc1 Kg7 60.Kg1 Qe5 61.Kf2 Qc3 62.Bf3 Qb4 63.Be3 Kg6 64.Rc1 Qa4 65.Bg5 Qd4+ 66.Kg2 Qc4 67.Rg1 Qa2 68.Be4+ Kg7 69.Bc1 Qe6 70.Bf3 Qe8 71.Bg5 Kg8 72.Rc1 Qg6 73.Re1 Kf8 74.Ra1 Kg7 75.Ra7+ Kh8 76.Rc7 Qd3 77.Bf6+ Kg8
+- (6.55) Depth: 53/60 00:16:02 27146MN, tb=1124581

To say it in a Tsvetkovesque way: about 60 moves to mate.
:)
Not because of the output- line, that was just the length of a quick playout with SF (Moonfish) only.

At the end of the output- line above:

6k1/2R5/5B2/7p/7P/3q1BP1/2p3K1/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Moonfish 191119 64 POPCNT:

78.Rc8+ Kf7 79.Bg5 Qd1 80.Bf4 Kf6 81.Rc6+ Kg7 82.Bh6+ Kf7 83.Rc5 Ke7 84.Bf4 Qb1 85.Bxh5 Qa2 86.Kh3 Qe6+ 87.Bg4 Qe4 88.Kh2 Qd3 89.Rc7+ Kf8 90.Rc8+ Kf7 91.Bh5+ Kf6 92.Bg5+ Kg7 93.Rc7+ Kf8 94.Kg2 Qd5+ 95.Bf3 Qa2 96.Bc1 Qb1 97.Bh6+ Ke8 98.Bg5 Kf8 99.Rc8+ Kg7 100.Rc6 Kf8 101.h5 Qb2 102.Kh3 Qb5 103.Bf4 Qd3 104.Kg2 c1R 105.Bxc1 Ke7 106.Bg5+ Kd7 107.h6 Qb1 108.Bf4 Ke7 109.Rc7+ Ke6
+- (13.15) Depth: 37/70 00:04:54 7204MN, tb=4174870

And at this one end- postion it's #13, so yet a little longer still, but with probably some unneccessary shuffling.
:)

Re: Borderline endgame #3

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:59 pm
by Nordlandia
Thanks peter. Starting position was [d]1n1qk1nr/1bpp1ppp/1p6/1N1P4/p3P3/P4N2/1P3PPP/R1B1KB1R b KQk - 0 12

Lc0 is capable of beating SF Dev here as white.