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FAT fritz is not needed

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:51 pm
by mclane
You can use LC0 without a buggy gui from chessbase.

Re: FAT fritz is not needed

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:40 pm
by Ovyron
That's like saying Komodo is not needed because we have Stockfish...

Re: FAT fritz is not needed

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:44 pm
by AdminX
You can also use it (Fat Fritz) in another GUI if Chessbase is not your thing.

Re: FAT fritz is not needed

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:09 pm
by Ovyron
AdminX wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:44 pm You can also use it (Fat Fritz) in another GUI if Chessbase is not your thing.
No, I cannot :) At least not on a GPU because I don't have CUDA and OpenCL doesn't work, and I already have weights optimized for CPU, so I didn't bother.

In their defense, I'm the only person around that I know that has a NVIDIA card but not CUDA, so I wouldn't expect them to make a special version just for my GPU...

Re: FAT fritz is not needed

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:17 pm
by dkappe
Ovyron wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:09 pm
AdminX wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:44 pm You can also use it (Fat Fritz) in another GUI if Chessbase is not your thing.
No, I cannot :) At least not on a GPU because I don't have CUDA and OpenCL doesn't work, and I already have weights optimized for CPU, so I didn't bother.

In their defense, I'm the only person around that I know that has a NVIDIA card but not CUDA, so I wouldn't expect them to make a special version just for my GPU...
I’m pretty sure a Fat Fritz jr for CPU is on the way.

Re: FAT fritz is not needed

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:26 pm
by Marek Soszynski
dkappe wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:17 pmI’m pretty sure a Fat Fritz jr for CPU is on the way.
Slim Fritz?

Re: FAT fritz is not needed

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:30 pm
by dkappe
Marek Soszynski wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:26 pm
dkappe wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:17 pmI’m pretty sure a Fat Fritz jr for CPU is on the way.
Slim Fritz?
That’s a German blues guitarist from Hannover.

Re: FAT fritz is not needed

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:36 pm
by Ovyron
dkappe wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:17 pmI’m pretty sure a Fat Fritz jr for CPU is on the way.
If it's an NN I really doubt it'll output more than 0 kn/s on my GPU (really, I don't even know if it's 0.1 n/s or 0.01 n/s...)

Re: FAT fritz is not needed

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:31 am
by Jim Logan
Ovyron wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:09 pm
AdminX wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:44 pm You can also use it (Fat Fritz) in another GUI if Chessbase is not your thing.
No, I cannot :) At least not on a GPU because I don't have CUDA and OpenCL doesn't work, and I already have weights optimized for CPU, so I didn't bother.

In their defense, I'm the only person around that I know that has a NVIDIA card but not CUDA, so I wouldn't expect them to make a special version just for my GPU...
OpenCL does not work?

Re: FAT fritz is not needed

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:23 am
by Ovyron
Jim Logan wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:31 amOpenCL does not work?
No, from NVIDIA's page:
OpenCL™ (Open Computing Language) is a low-level API for heterogeneous computing that runs on CUDA-powered GPUs.
Basically, it requires CUDA, so OpenCL is of no use to me because if my NVIDIA GPU supported CUDA I'd use the CUDA version of Leela instead.

I bought my GPU (back in 2010) because I needed the S-VIDEO port to connect it to my CRT TV, and the next NVIDIA card didn't have it, but this one didn't have CUDA yet. Watching movies/Youtube on my TV was a must so I don't really regret the decision, but if they kept the S-VIDEO port I could have had the best of both worlds (they dropped S-VIDEO in favor of HDMI which... I don't have either.)