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AdminX wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:07 am Wow! Tested it with my LiChess bot account (NeuralAbyss) and it worked like a charm! Thank you very much for all the work you are doing with Banksia.

Question: Can you assign a opening book to your bot? If not, then that would be a feature request.

brinan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:02 am Great work.

If you do allow a bot to be assigned an opening book,
would you extend the facility to allow the GUI to assign a book to any engine,
without requiring the opponent's engine to also be assigned a book.

One engine plays with book, the other does not.
For example, a neural-net engine does not have an opening book,
but Stockfish does access a book (perhaps in pgn form).

Thanks.

[by phhnguyen]
Perhaps, it is much easier if we only turn on/off using books for bots, say, a bot will have a checkbox to denote use or not use books (you can check it for normal engines and uncheck for NN engines). If you think it is good enough, I may add it to the next release.

BrendanJNorman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:22 am

Modern Times wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:01 am What does the pgn that it produces look like ? A clean format something like below like Cutechess ? e.g.

1. e4 {book} g6 {book} 2. d4 {book} Bg7 {book} 3. Nc3 {book} d6 {book}
4. h3 {book} Nc6 {book} 5. Nf3 {+0.62/29 66s} Nf6 {-0.68/10 23s}
6. d5 {+0.71/29 63s} Nb8 {-0.64/11 26s} 7. Bg5 {+0.76/26 13s} c6 {-0.57/10 54s}
8. Bd3 {+0.58/30 131s} O-O {-0.57/11 47s} 9. O-O {+0.68/26 9.7s}


Or Shredder GUI (also has the expected move, sometimes)

1. c4 {book 0s} c6 {book 0s} 2. Nf3 {book 0s} Nf6 {book 0s}
3. e3 {book 0s} d5 {book 0s} 4. a3 {book 0s} e6 {book 0s}
5. d4 {+0.57/25 37s} Nbd7 {+0.10/12 30s (Be7)} 6. Nbd2
{+0.63/25 18s} b6 {+0.12/13 1:09m (Bd6)} 7. Bd3 {+0.61/27
37s} Bb7 {+0.19/8 24s (Be7)} 8. O-O {+0.53/27 23s}

Something like this.

[Event "banksia game"]
[Date "2020.01.17"]
[White "Ethereal 8.28"]
[Black "hm::Human"]
[Result "*"]
[TimeControl "40/300+1"]
[Time "14:21:48"]
[Termination "*"]
[ECO "A55"]
[Opening "Old Indian"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 d6
3. Nc3 Nbd7 4. e4 e5
5. Nf3 {A55: Old Indian, main line} c6 6. Be2 a6
7. a4 a5 8. O-O {+0.46/15 5.4 6817419} Be7
9. Qc2 {+0.02/16 8.6 11036347} h6 10. Rd1 {+0.12/16 6.5 8072594} Qc7
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Modern Times wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:15 am ...
[Event "banksia game"]
[Date "2020.01.17"]
[White "Ethereal 8.28"]
[Black "hm::Human"]
[Result "*"]
[TimeControl "40/300+1"]
[Time "14:21:48"]
[Termination "*"]
[ECO "A55"]
[Opening "Old Indian"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 d6
3. Nc3 Nbd7 4. e4 e5
5. Nf3 {A55: Old Indian, main line} c6 6. Be2 a6
7. a4 a5 8. O-O {+0.46/15 5.4 6817419} Be7
9. Qc2 {+0.02/16 8.6 11036347} h6 10. Rd1 {+0.12/16 6.5 8072594} Qc7
1

What are those numbers supposed to represent I wonder ? Is it milliseconds or something ? If so, then the Shredder or Cutechess methods of just specifying the seconds taken is much cleaner in my view. This new GUI looks really impressive, massive credit to the author, but in my case a nice clean readable and understandable pgn is one of the most important things. I loved that about Cutechess when I started using that, comapred to the ugly Chessbase/ChessGUi format.

Modern Times wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:19 am OK, so nothing in the pgn to say how much time was spent on each move ?

{+0.46/15 5.4 6817419} = {eval/depth time nodes}