First chess benchmarks for the Intel core i9-10980XE emerge
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:54 pm
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Review - Intel Core i9 10980XE - Cascade Lake X
Written by: Monster, in the category: Featured Articles, Processors & Chipsets, on October 25, 2019.
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Intel Core i9 10980XE
I write these lines on an ultraportable notebook equipped with an Intel 4-core processor ... the daily-use system is also equipped with an Intel processor and even if the test platform will soon be equipped with an AMD processor, better than 10 years ago I used Intel platforms. Of course, this does not mean that we did not appreciate AMD processors, but on the contrary, we had more systems with such processors on the desk at the time, than Intel systems.
However, for more than ten years the blue giant has dominated the market without the right of appeal, being the only solution for the passionate. And yet ... somewhere in recent years, something went wrong. The ambitious plans were overturned, even if we were talking about the company that employs some of the most skilled engineers in the industry, and the management of the company guided the formidable Intel machine, another unbeatable date, in the wrong direction, in which the biggest manufacturer processors in the world suddenly found themselves in a vulnerable position.
Of course, the furious comeback of AMD has contributed to this, but ... I tell you a little secret ... do not believe that in this industry a manufacturer of Intel size does not have information about what his opponent is doing. It is inevitable, whether we are talking about people moving from one company to another, or talking about journalists sharing information with different companies. It is certain that Ryzen was not a surprise to Intel, and the iterations that followed followed a natural progression.
No, the impasse that Intel is in right now is not one caused by ignorance, but rather by setting goals that were impossible to achieve for technical reasons - developing a more technological process than what TSMC offers and Samsung. Intel's attempt to move from the 14nm process directly to a 10nm process has failed, which is why for the last 5 years we have been dealing with the same manufacturing process, refined which is right with all the company's engineers. , respectively with only 2 major architectural nodes, also refined endlessly.
However, as long as AMD could not offer something competitive, this was not an impediment for Intel, which has doubled the price of high-end processors in recent years. That's how we got to 18 cores and 36 threads, which cost $ 1999. And this worked, until he saw the light of the second generation AMD Threadripper, with the monstrous 2990WX equipped with 32 cores and 64 threads, sold for a lower price.
And when the third generation AMD made its appearance, bringing a considerable increase in performance, which foresees the absolute dominance of the Threadripper monsters based on the same architecture, for the first time in history, which stretches better. For half a century, the US giant has had no choice but to cut prices for high-end processors!
Thus, over ~ 2 weeks when you read the launch reviews, you will see that the top end, Intel Core i9 10980XE, now costs $ 999, Intel Core i9 10940X (14c / 28t) costs $ 797, Intel Core i7 10920X (12c / 24t) costs $ 700, and the small series Intel Core i7 10900X (10c / 20t) costs $ 599. Also, you will probably notice that a single processor has an equivalent in the AMD core field, I mean here the Intel Core i7 10920X (12c / 24t) vs AMD Ryzen 9 3900X (12c / 24t), and a model with 16 cores and 32 threads does not exist in the Intel line-up ... Probably because AMD Ryzen 9 3950X.
It is true that Intel has reduced the prices of high-end processors for the first time in history, launching a new family of processors, based on a refined manufacturing process and architecture over time, not to mention a new architecture. This time we are dealing with slightly higher frequencies and reduced prices by half, security patches applied from the factory and, according to our sources, a high availability in stores since the launch.
Bonus - Although there are new models of motherboards, based on the X299X chipset overhaul, the LGA2066 motherboards are fully compatible with the new processors through a simple BIOS update. Well ... that's not something I've seen too often at Intel in recent years, is it?
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Intel set the price at $979, basically it is just the i9-9980XE with some security mitigations and deep learning boost (8 bit multiply add accumulate 32 in 1 cycle), the clock frequencies are somewhat higher too.
IIRC Noctua has released a cooler for the AMD TR4 chips rated at over 400W.Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:52 amIntel set the price at $979, basically it is just the i9-9980XE with some security mitigations and deep learning boost (8 bit multiply add accumulate 32 in 1 cycle), the clock frequencies are somewhat higher too.
When it is available in the Netherlands I will buy one, it won't be as fast as a 32 core TR3 but the 9980XE can run with a large (and quiet) air cooler like the Noctua NH-D15, I'm pretty sure that a 32 core TR3 needs a large water cooler otherwise it will run too hot.
Also the Xeon W-2295 is an option, somewhat more expensive but it can use up to 1TB memory and unlike the 9980XE it supports ECC memory.
That benchmark shows less performance than what is expected from a Ryzen 3950X AM4 at 105 W TDP!Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:54 pm https://lab501.ro/procesoare-chipseturi ... -lake-x/10
Really? I haven't seen any real world benchmarks of the 3950X yet. When you multiply the score of the 3900X by a factor of 1.33 (12 to 16 cores) it still does not reach the level of the 10980XE, and look how bad the BMI2 scores of the 3900x are. I'd rather pay an extra $200 for a decent CPU.Zenmastur wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:10 amThat benchmark shows less performance than what is expected from a Ryzen 3950X AM4 at 105 W TDP!Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:54 pm https://lab501.ro/procesoare-chipseturi ... -lake-x/10
At 33% greater price why on earth would you buy that?
Regards,
Zenmastur
impressive , this brings Intel back in the picture for my next PC. Had decided to wait until March 2020 - no rush on my end.Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:54 pm https://lab501.ro/procesoare-chipseturi ... -lake-x/10
Really???Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:32 pmReally? I haven't seen any real world benchmarks of the 3950X yet. When you multiply the score of the 3900X by a factor of 1.33 (12 to 16 cores) it still does not reach the level of the 10980XE, and look how bad the BMI2 scores of the 3900x are. I'd rather pay an extra $200 for a decent CPU.Zenmastur wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:10 amThat benchmark shows less performance than what is expected from a Ryzen 3950X AM4 at 105 W TDP!Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:54 pm https://lab501.ro/procesoare-chipseturi ... -lake-x/10
At 33% greater price why on earth would you buy that?
Regards,
Zenmastur