Twin 2080Tis and large NN

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shrapnel
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Twin 2080Tis and large NN

Post by shrapnel »

Large NNs (384x30) really do improve the performance of lc0( whether Laskos Sir fully agrees or not ). Of course, twin 2080 Tis help :) , but on the other hand using a large NN with a weak GPU makes no sense and would simply backfire.
Following is a Game against a guy using 16 Cores and Stockfish..

[pgn][Event "Rated game, 16 min"] [Site "Engine Room"] [Date "2019.10.25"] [Round "?"] [White "Mrtambourineman, Stockfish 260819 64"] [Black "Shrapnel, Lc0 v0.22.0_1"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "E11"] [WhiteElo "2424"] [Annotator "0.00;0.15"] [PlyCount "123"] [EventDate "2019.10.25"] [SourceTitle "playchess.com"] [TimeControl "960"] {Stockfish 260819 64 POPCNTpp (16 threads): 41.9 plies; 23,493kN/s AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor 3693MHz, (8 cores, 16 threads), Attaker Pro 3. ctg, 8192 MB} 1. d4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00: 00]} 2. c4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. g3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bb4+ {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. Bd2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} Be7 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Bg2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. O-O {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} c6 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. Qc2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nbd7 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Rc1 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} b6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} 10. cxd5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} cxd5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Qb3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ne4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 12. Bb4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxb4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 13. Qxb4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} a5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 14. Qa3 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ba6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 15. e3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qb8 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 16. Nbd2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } Nxd2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 17. Nxd2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ra7 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 18. Rc3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Be2 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 19. Bf1 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} b5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 20. Rc2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bc4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 21. b3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxf1 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 22. Kxf1 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} a4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 23. Kg2 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qa8 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 24. b4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nb6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 25. Rc5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rb7 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 26. Qd3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd7 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 27. Rc6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nb6 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 28. Nb1 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rbb8 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 29. Rc5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} 30. Nc3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 31. f3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} h6 {[%eval 15,9] [%emt 0:00:24]} 32. Rc1 { [%eval 0,42] [%emt 0:01:18] (h4)} Rfc8 {[%eval 3,12] [%emt 0:00:22] (Tfd8)} 33. Rd1 {[%eval 0,39] [%emt 0:01:42] (e4)} Nc4 {[%eval -3,12] [%emt 0:00:30] (Db7)} 34. Rc1 {[%eval 0,40] [%emt 0:01:00] (Rb1)} a3 {[%eval -14,12] [%emt 0:00:46] (Da6)} 35. Rb1 {[%eval 0,39] [%emt 0:00:11] (h4)} Nb2 {[%eval -18,12] [%emt 0: 00:47]} 36. Qe2 {[%eval 0,44] [%emt 0:00:00] (Qd2)} Rxc5 {[%eval -24,13] [%emt 0:00:51] (Db7)} 37. dxc5 {[%eval 27,29] [%emt 0:00:16]} Qc6 {[%eval -22,14] [%emt 0:00:45]} 38. Rf1 {[%eval 0,36] [%emt 0:00:47] (h4)} e5 {[%eval -23,13] [%emt 0:01:22] (Cc4)} 39. e4 {[%eval 0,32] [%emt 0:00:19]} d4 {[%eval -20,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} 40. Nd5 {[%eval 0,34] [%emt 0:00:17]} Kh7 {[%eval -18,12] [%emt 0:00:52] (Tb7)} 41. f4 {[%eval 0,38] [%emt 0:00:34] (g4)} exf4 {[%eval -58,23] [%emt 0:00:34]} 42. Rxf4 {[%eval 0,42] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qe6 {[%eval -57, 13] [%emt 0:00:00] (d3)} 43. Qf3 {[%eval 74,35] [%emt 0:00:17]} f6 {[%eval 53, 22] [%emt 0:01:17]} 44. Qxa3 {[%eval 31,39] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc4 {[%eval 54,24] [%emt 0:00:00]} 45. Qd3 {[%eval 47,37] [%emt 0:00:18]} Ra8 {[%eval 54,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 46. Rf2 {[%eval 25,38] [%emt 0:00:36]} Qe5 {[%eval 53,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} 47. Qf3 {[%eval 32,40] [%emt 0:00:42]} Kh8 {[%eval 53,20] [%emt 0:00:21] (Ta6)} 48. Qf4 {[%eval 58,32] [%emt 0:00:19] (Kg1)} d3 {[%eval 46,21] [%emt 0:01:31]} 49. Qxe5 {[%eval 46,50] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nxe5 {[%eval 46, 20] [%emt 0:00:02]} 50. Nc3 {[%eval 35,43] [%emt 0:00:14]} Nc4 {[%eval 46,23] [%emt 0:00:01]} 51. Kf1 {[%eval 35,43] [%emt 0:00:08] (a4)} Ra3 {[%eval 42,20] [%emt 0:00:56]} 52. Nb1 {[%eval 13,48] [%emt 0:00:31] (Nd5)} Ra4 {[%eval 39,25] [%emt 0:00:38]} 53. a3 {[%eval 2,49] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nxa3 {[%eval 38,25] [%emt 0:00:14]} 54. Nxa3 {[%eval 2,50] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rxa3 {[%eval 38,24] [%emt 0: 00:10]} 55. Ke1 {[%eval 2,51] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kg8 {[%eval 38,22] [%emt 0:00:12] } 56. Kd2 {[%eval 2,50] [%emt 0:00:06]} Kf7 {[%eval 38,21] [%emt 0:00:08]} 57. c6 {[%eval 0,41] [%emt 0:00:01] (e5)} Ke6 {[%eval 17,16] [%emt 0:01:25]} 58. Rf5 {[%eval 0,54] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kd6 {[%eval 17,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 59. Rxb5 { [%eval 0,50] [%emt 0:00:07]} Kxc6 {[%eval 16,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} 60. Rc5+ { [%eval 0,49] [%emt 0:00:16]} Kd6 {[%eval 15,13] [%emt 0:00:14]} 61. Rd5+ { [%eval 0,52] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kc7 {[%eval 15,12] [%emt 0:00:17] (Rc6)} 62. Ra5 { [%eval 0,44] [%emt 0:00:09] (Rc5+)} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

Against a slightly weaker opponent, lc0 won, even though it was a 3 minute Game, supposedly not lc0's forte....

[pgn][Event "Rated game, 3 min"] [Site "Engine Room"] [Date "2019.10.25"] [Round "?"] [White "Shrapnel, Lc0 v0.22.0"] [Black "JML26, Stockfish 260819 64"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "A28"] [WhiteElo "2479"] [BlackElo "2422"] [Annotator "0.57;-0.09"] [PlyCount "145"] [EventDate "2019.10.25"] [SourceTitle "playchess.com"] [TimeControl "180"] {Stockfish 260819 64 (6 cores): 28.5 plies; 11,387kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz 2807MHz, Attaker Pro 3.ctg, 8192 MB} 1. c4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%eval -9,24] [%emt 0:00:04]} 2. Nc3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval -13,27] [%emt 0:00:09]} 3. Nf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {[%eval -22,24] [%emt 0:00:02]} 4. e4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] (a2-a3)} Bb4 {[%eval -38,25] [%emt 0:00:03]} 5. d3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d6 { [%eval -14,28] [%emt 0:00:11]} 6. a3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bc5 {[%eval 0,27] [%emt 0:00:03]} 7. b4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bb6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. Be3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bg4 {[%eval -13,26] [%emt 0:00:05]} 9. Be2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%eval 0,28] [%emt 0:00:06]} 10. O-O {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxf3 {[%eval 0,28] [%emt 0:00:01]} 11. Bxf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd4 {[%eval 0,28] [%emt 0:00:01]} 12. Na4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ne6 {[%eval 0,27] [%emt 0:00:02]} 13. Nxb6 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} axb6 {[%eval 4,26] [%emt 0:00:01]} 14. Qd2 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} h6 {[%eval 30,28] [%emt 0:00:10]} 15. a4 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%eval 29,24] [%emt 0:00:03]} 16. Bd1 {[%eval 57,5] [%emt 0:00:05] (Tf1-b1)} Nd7 {[%eval 24,23] [%emt 0:00:03]} 17. Rb1 {[%eval 47, 9] [%emt 0:00:05] (g2-g3)} Nb8 {[%eval 4,26] [%emt 0:00:04] (Nd4)} 18. b5 { [%eval 43,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} Nd7 {[%eval 25,26] [%emt 0:00:02]} 19. Qe2 { [%eval 52,9] [%emt 0:00:03] (Tb1-a1)} Qh4 {[%eval 8,24] [%emt 0:00:03]} 20. Ra1 {[%eval 51,11] [%emt 0:00:08]} Nd4 {[%eval 0,33] [%emt 0:00:00] (Nf4)} 21. Qg4 {[%eval 57,12] [%emt 0:00:04]} Qxg4 {[%eval 0,36] [%emt 0:00:00]} 22. Bxg4 { [%eval 55,13] [%emt 0:00:02]} f5 {[%eval 0,29] [%emt 0:00:04] (Nf6)} 23. exf5 { [%eval 64,16] [%emt 0:00:05]} Nc2 {[%eval 0,36] [%emt 0:00:00]} 24. Ra2 { [%eval 53,17] [%emt 0:00:07]} Nb4 {[%eval 0,38] [%emt 0:00:00]} 25. Ra3 { [%eval 55,20] [%emt 0:00:03] (Ta2-a1)} Nc2 {[%eval 0,37] [%emt 0:00:02]} 26. Rc3 {[%eval 55,22] [%emt 0:00:02] (Ta3-a2)} Nd4 {[%eval 0,35] [%emt 0:00:02]} 27. Ra3 {[%eval 55,21] [%emt 0:00:01]} Nc2 {[%eval 0,38] [%emt 0:00:03]} 28. Ra2 {[%eval 55,21] [%emt 0:00:01] (Ta3-c3)} Nb4 {[%eval 11,39] [%emt 0:00:20]} 29. Raa1 {[%eval 56,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc2 {[%eval 13,28] [%emt 0:00:03]} 30. Bf3 {[%eval 57,22] [%emt 0:00:00] (Ta1-c1)} Nxa1 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:00:02]} 31. Rxa1 {[%eval 56,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ra7 {[%eval -10,27] [%emt 0:00:02]} 32. g4 {[%eval 56,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf7 {[%eval 0,28] [%emt 0:00:02] (Rfa8)} 33. h4 {[%eval 77,14] [%emt 0:00:22]} Rfa8 {[%eval 0,38] [%emt 0:00:00]} 34. Bd1 { [%eval 84,13] [%emt 0:00:12]} Nf6 {[%eval 0,38] [%emt 0:00:00]} 35. Bd2 { [%eval 93,15] [%emt 0:00:07]} Rf8 {[%eval 46,31] [%emt 0:00:07] (Ng8)} 36. Bf3 {[%eval 140,11] [%emt 0:00:09] (Rg1-g2)} Ke7 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:02]} 37. Kg2 {[%eval 132,13] [%emt 0:00:02] (g4-g5)} Ng8 {[%eval 0,32] [%emt 0:00:02]} 38. Kg3 {[%eval 128,13] [%emt 0:00:07] (Ff3-e4)} Kd7 {[%eval 15,30] [%emt 0:00: 02]} 39. Kh3 {[%eval 129,13] [%emt 0:00:02] (Ff3-e4)} Ke7 {[%eval 0,30] [%emt 0:00:05]} 40. Bh1 {[%eval 146,15] [%emt 0:00:11] (Rh3-g3)} Kd7 {[%eval 70,28] [%emt 0:00:07]} 41. f4 {[%eval 152,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} exf4 {[%eval 65,27] [%emt 0:00:01]} 42. Bc3 {[%eval 161,17] [%emt 0:00:03] (Fh1-e4)} Nf6 {[%eval 80,25] [%emt 0:00:02]} 43. Bf3 {[%eval 162,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re8 {[%eval 111, 28] [%emt 0:00:04]} 44. Bd2 {[%eval 165,15] [%emt 0:00:01]} Kc7 {[%eval 114,30] [%emt 0:00:00]} 45. Bxf4 {[%eval 165,14] [%emt 0:00:02]} Rh8 {[%eval 110,29] [%emt 0:00:00] (Raa8)} 46. Kg3 {[%eval 168,12] [%emt 0:00:10]} Raa8 {[%eval 119,34] [%emt 0:00:00]} 47. Bd2 {[%eval 169,13] [%emt 0:00:01] (g4-g5)} Nd7 { [%eval 98,22] [%emt 0:00:01]} 48. Bc3 {[%eval 175,13] [%emt 0:00:04]} Ne5 { [%eval 201,27] [%emt 0:00:01]} 49. Be4 {[%eval 178,14] [%emt 0:00:00] (Ff3-d5)} Rhf8 {[%eval 106,24] [%emt 0:00:02]} 50. h5 {[%eval 194,11] [%emt 0:00:06] (a4-a5)} Rf7 {[%eval 94,23] [%emt 0:00:03]} 51. Kf4 {[%eval 199,12] [%emt 0:00: 03]} Rh8 {[%eval 101,27] [%emt 0:00:02] (Re7)} 52. a5 {[%eval 218,11] [%emt 0: 00:05]} bxa5 {[%eval 152,29] [%emt 0:00:00]} 53. Bxa5+ {[%eval 215,12] [%emt 0: 00:05] (Ta1xa5)} Kb8 {[%eval 157,23] [%emt 0:00:01]} 54. Bc3 {[%eval 216,11] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd7 {[%eval 177,25] [%emt 0:00:03]} 55. g5 {[%eval 220,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} hxg5+ {[%eval 205,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} 56. Kxg5 {[%eval 218,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} Ne5 {[%eval 206,25] [%emt 0:00:00] (Re7)} 57. b6 {[%eval 241,8] [%emt 0:00:03]} Re7 {[%eval 230,27] [%emt 0:00:01] (Rhf8)} 58. Rh1 {[%eval 247, 9] [%emt 0:00:02]} Rh6 {[%eval 260,28] [%emt 0:00:01]} 59. Bd5 {[%eval 251,10] [%emt 0:00:01] (Th1-f1)} Re8 {[%eval 222,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} 60. Rh3 {[%eval 245,10] [%emt 0:00:03] (d3-d4)} Re7 {[%eval 327,26] [%emt 0:00:02] (Reh8)} 61. d4 {[%eval 258,8] [%emt 0:00:01] (Th3-h1)} cxd4 {[%eval 278,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} 62. Bxd4 {[%eval 236,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re8 {[%eval 368,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} 63. Rh1 {[%eval 232,8] [%emt 0:00:01]} Rf6 {[%eval 438,27] [%emt 0:00:02] (Reh8)} 64. Bc3 {[%eval 237,8] [%emt 0:00:00] (Th1-f1)} Ref8 {[%eval 294,20] [%emt 0: 00:00] (Rh6)} 65. Rf1 {[%eval 234,9] [%emt 0:00:00] (Fd5-e6)} Re8 {[%eval 442, 25] [%emt 0:00:01] (Rh6)} 66. Bb2 {[%eval 239,7] [%emt 0:00:01] (Fc3-d4)} Kc8 { [%eval 400,20] [%emt 0:00:01]} 67. Ra1 {[%eval 247,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kb8 { [%eval 507,26] [%emt 0:00:00]} 68. Ra7 {[%eval 278,10] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re7 { [%eval 658,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} 69. c5 {[%eval 338,9] [%emt 0:00:00] (Fb2-d4)} Nf7+ {[%eval 619,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} 70. Kf4 {[%eval 368,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ne5 {[%eval 930,25] [%emt 0:00:01]} 71. c6 {[%eval 465,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nxc6 { [%eval 1208,24] [%emt 0:00:00] (Nd3+)} 72. Bxf6 {[%eval 879,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nb4 {[%eval 1773,26] [%emt 0:00:01] (gxf6)} 73. Bxe7 {[%eval 4891,6] [%emt 0: 00:00] JML26,Stockfish 260819 64 abandonne (Lag: Av=0.47s, max=1.0s)} 1-0[/pgn]
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Re: Twin 2080Tis and large NN

Post by shrapnel »

A Game against the popular, much-vaunted Eman Engine, a Stockfish Clone I think....

[pgn][Event "Rated game, 5 min"] [Site "Engine Room"] [Date "2019.10.25"] [Round "?"] [White "Shrapnel, Lc0 v0.22.0"] [Black "Kerveros, Eman 4.30 64-bit PO"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "E14"] [WhiteElo "2492"] [BlackElo "2480"] [Annotator "0.38;0.00"] [PlyCount "191"] [EventDate "2019.10.25"] [SourceTitle "playchess.com"] [TimeControl "300"] {Eman 4.30 64-bit POPCNT (4 cores): 23.9 plies; 3,190kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz 2195MHz, (4 cores, 8 threads), Attaker Pro 3.ctg, 8192 MB} 1. c4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 2. d4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. e3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00: 00]} Bd6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. Nc3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} b6 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. b3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bb7 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Bd3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} 8. Bb2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nbd7 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 9. O-O {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re8 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 10. Nb5 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bf8 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Nc3 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} a6 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 12. a4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} h6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 13. Qc2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} dxc4 {[%eval 0,27] [%emt 0:00:17]} 14. bxc4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] (Bxc4)} Bxf3 {[%eval 0,29] [%emt 0:00:08]} 15. gxf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} c5 { [%eval 0,29] [%emt 0:00:07]} 16. Kh1 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] (d5)} cxd4 { [%eval 0,23] [%emt 0:00:06]} 17. exd4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%eval 0,27] [%emt 0:00:18]} 18. d5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kh8 {[%eval 0,27] [%emt 0:00:09]} 19. Rg1 {[%eval 38,9] [%emt 0:00:05]} Qc7 {[%eval -9,26] [%emt 0:00:04] (Rc8)} 20. Rad1 {[%eval 38,9] [%emt 0:00:11] (Ne4)} Rad8 {[%eval 0,24] [%emt 0:00:06]} 21. Bc1 {[%eval 36,12] [%emt 0:00:11] (Ne2)} Rc8 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:00:18] (Nc5)} 22. Qb1 {[%eval 43,9] [%emt 0:00:08] (Be2)} Rb8 {[%eval 0,25] [%emt 0:00:12] (Rcd8)} 23. Be3 {[%eval 46,10] [%emt 0:00:06] (Qc2)} Bc5 { [%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:00:10]} 24. Bd2 {[%eval 44,12] [%emt 0:00:02]} Bf8 { [%eval 8,25] [%emt 0:00:12]} 25. Qc2 {[%eval 43,11] [%emt 0:00:19]} Rbc8 { [%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:00:00]} 26. Qb1 {[%eval 45,10] [%emt 0:00:04] (Be2)} Nh5 { [%eval 15,24] [%emt 0:00:08] (Rb8)} 27. Bf5 {[%eval 50,12] [%emt 0:00:08] (Be3) } Rcd8 {[%eval 9,24] [%emt 0:00:04]} 28. Ne4 {[%eval 59,16] [%emt 0:00:15] (Be3)} Qxc4 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:00:03] (Nc5)} 29. Rg4 {[%eval 73,18] [%emt 0: 00:03] (Bg5)} Qc7 {[%eval 212,26] [%emt 0:00:12] (Nc5)} 30. d6 {[%eval 169,15] [%emt 0:00:07]} Qb7 {[%eval 181,27] [%emt 0:00:04]} 31. Qb3 {[%eval 175,21] [%emt 0:00:03] (Rh4)} Ndf6 {[%eval 168,27] [%emt 0:00:02]} 32. Rh4 {[%eval 179, 19] [%emt 0:00:02]} g6 {[%eval 151,28] [%emt 0:00:00]} 33. Nxf6 {[%eval 179,19] [%emt 0:00:07] (d7)} Nxf6 {[%eval 90,24] [%emt 0:00:03]} 34. Bg5 {[%eval 179, 18] [%emt 0:00:02]} Nh7 {[%eval 108,25] [%emt 0:00:02]} 35. Bxd8 {[%eval 179, 19] [%emt 0:00:16]} Rxd8 {[%eval 112,29] [%emt 0:00:00]} 36. Be4 {[%eval 178, 16] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qd7 {[%eval 123,27] [%emt 0:00:06] (Qa7)} 37. f4 {[%eval 186,16] [%emt 0:00:14]} exf4 {[%eval 124,30] [%emt 0:00:00]} 38. Rxf4 {[%eval 189,15] [%emt 0:00:06]} Ng5 {[%eval 87,29] [%emt 0:00:02]} 39. Bg2 {[%eval 194, 14] [%emt 0:00:03]} b5 {[%eval 105,29] [%emt 0:00:02] (Ne6)} 40. a5 {[%eval 204,13] [%emt 0:00:13] (axb5)} Ne6 {[%eval 91,21] [%emt 0:00:06]} 41. Rf3 { [%eval 207,14] [%emt 0:00:05]} Qa7 {[%eval 107,23] [%emt 0:00:01] (Kh7)} 42. Qb2+ {[%eval 189,15] [%emt 0:00:21] (Qb4)} Bg7 {[%eval 116,23] [%emt 0:00:07] (Kg8)} 43. Qc1 {[%eval 234,11] [%emt 0:00:10]} Kg8 {[%eval 191,26] [%emt 0:00: 10] (Bd4)} 44. Qc6 {[%eval 244,13] [%emt 0:00:08]} b4 {[%eval 192,24] [%emt 0: 00:00] (Qc5)} 45. Qb6 {[%eval 289,10] [%emt 0:00:09] (Re3)} Bd4 {[%eval 188,20] [%emt 0:00:02] (Qb8)} 46. Qxa7 {[%eval 306,11] [%emt 0:00:06]} Bxa7 {[%eval 172,27] [%emt 0:00:00]} 47. Bf1 {[%eval 313,11] [%emt 0:00:04] (Rd5)} Nd4 { [%eval 201,22] [%emt 0:00:02]} 48. Re3 {[%eval 342,11] [%emt 0:00:07]} Kf8 { [%eval 179,25] [%emt 0:00:04] (Nc6)} 49. Re7 {[%eval 424,10] [%emt 0:00:07]} Bc5 {[%eval 243,27] [%emt 0:00:00]} 50. Bc4 {[%eval 436,10] [%emt 0:00:06] (Re5)} Ne6 {[%eval 233,22] [%emt 0:00:03]} 51. Rc7 {[%eval 479,10] [%emt 0:00: 11] (Bxe6)} Bxd6 {[%eval 212,23] [%emt 0:00:02]} 52. Rc6 {[%eval 500,9] [%emt 0:00:03]} Ke7 {[%eval 347,28] [%emt 0:00:08]} 53. Rxa6 {[%eval 521,9] [%emt 0: 00:00] (Bxe6)} Bc5 {[%eval 252,20] [%emt 0:00:02]} 54. Rxd8 {[%eval 487,9] [%emt 0:00:03]} Nxd8 {[%eval 312,25] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kxd8)} 55. Kg2 {[%eval 635,8] [%emt 0:00:08]} h5 {[%eval 329,26] [%emt 0:00:04] (Kd7)} 56. Ra8 { [%eval 937,7] [%emt 0:00:05]} Nc6 {[%eval 365,24] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kd7)} 57. a6 {[%eval 917,7] [%emt 0:00:03]} f6 {[%eval 401,26] [%emt 0:00:05] (Na5)} 58. Rh8 {[%eval 1103,6] [%emt 0:00:03] (Bb5)} Kd6 {[%eval 326,22] [%emt 0:00:04] (b3)} 59. Rf8 {[%eval 754,7] [%emt 0:00:02] (h4)} Bd4 {[%eval 307,18] [%emt 0:00:01]} 60. Rf7 {[%eval 682,7] [%emt 0:00:01]} g5 {[%eval 344,27] [%emt 0:00:05] (Kc5)} 61. Bb3 {[%eval 723,7] [%emt 0:00:02] (Rb7)} g4 {[%eval 340,18] [%emt 0:00:03] (Na5)} 62. Rh7 {[%eval 879,6] [%emt 0:00:01] (Ba4)} f5 {[%eval 434,22] [%emt 0: 00:04] (Na5)} 63. Rxh5 {[%eval 1620,6] [%emt 0:00:01]} Ne7 {[%eval 501,23] [%emt 0:00:05] (Na5)} 64. Rh6+ {[%eval 1942,6] [%emt 0:00:01]} Kd7 {[%eval 510, 23] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kc7)} 65. Rh7 {[%eval 1890,6] [%emt 0:00:01] (Ba4+)} Bc5 { [%eval 446,19] [%emt 0:00:01] (Bxf2)} 66. f3 {[%eval 1519,6] [%emt 0:00:01]} Kc7 {[%eval 634,23] [%emt 0:00:03] (Kc6)} 67. fxg4 {[%eval 2136,6] [%emt 0:00: 01]} fxg4 {[%eval 743,24] [%emt 0:00:01]} 68. Kg3 {[%eval 1629,6] [%emt 0:00: 01]} Kb6 {[%eval 761,24] [%emt 0:00:00]} 69. Kxg4 {[%eval 2205,6] [%emt 0:00: 00] (Rh6+)} Kxa6 {[%eval 354,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} 70. h4 {[%eval 1948,6] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {[%eval 365,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} 71. h5 {[%eval 1309,6] [%emt 0: 00:00]} Bd4 {[%eval 430,23] [%emt 0:00:02] (Na5)} 72. h6 {[%eval 1219,5] [%emt 0:00:00] (Rh6)} Kb6 {[%eval 400,16] [%emt 0:00:00] (Na5)} 73. Rg7 {[%eval 1292, 5] [%emt 0:00:00] (Ba4)} Na5 {[%eval 476,20] [%emt 0:00:01]} 74. Rg6+ {[%eval 854,6] [%emt 0:00:00] (Rd7)} Kc7 {[%eval 489,20] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kc5)} 75. Bd5 {[%eval 1515,6] [%emt 0:00:00] (Rg7+)} b3 {[%eval 310,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 76. h7 {[%eval 838,6] [%emt 0:00:00] (Be4)} b2 {[%eval 326,19] [%emt 0:00:01]} 77. Ba2 {[%eval 543,7] [%emt 0:00:00] (Be4)} Nc4 {[%eval 563,20] [%emt 0:00:02]} 78. Re6 {[%eval 562,7] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kf5)} Nd6 {[%eval 369,17] [%emt 0:00:00] (Na3)} 79. Bb1 {[%eval 610,6] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kf4)} Kd7 {[%eval 338,18] [%emt 0:00:01] (Nc4)} 80. Re2 {[%eval 860,6] [%emt 0:00:00] (Rg6)} Bg7 {[%eval 396, 21] [%emt 0:00:01] (Bh8)} 81. Kh5 {[%eval 768,6] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kf4)} Bd4 { [%eval 375,18] [%emt 0:00:01] (Bh8)} 82. Kg6 {[%eval 796,6] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kg4)} Bh8 {[%eval 458,17] [%emt 0:00:00]} 83. Re3 {[%eval 617,6] [%emt 0:00: 00] (Rf2)} Nc4 {[%eval 429,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} 84. Rd3+ {[%eval 607,7] [%emt 0: 00:00] (Rg3)} Ke7 {[%eval 482,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} 85. Rb3 {[%eval 721,7] [%emt 0:00:00] (Rg3)} Ne5+ {[%eval 501,21] [%emt 0:00:00] (Nd2)} 86. Kh5 {[%eval 893, 6] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kf5)} Nd7 {[%eval 377,17] [%emt 0:00:00]} 87. Rb7 {[%eval 571,6] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kg6)} Ke6 {[%eval 427,19] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kd6)} 88. Ra7 {[%eval 652,6] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kg4)} Nf6+ {[%eval 403,19] [%emt 0:00:01] (Nf8)} 89. Kg6 {[%eval 974,5] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nxh7 {[%eval 518,29] [%emt 0:00:00] (Nd7)} 90. Rxh7 {[%eval 12800,2] [%emt 0:00:00] (Ba2+)} Bd4 {[%eval 532,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} 91. Rh5 {[%eval 27986,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bf2 {[%eval 532,32] [%emt 0:00:00]} 92. Ba2+ {[%eval 27996,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke7 {[%eval 559,32] [%emt 0:00:00]} 93. Rd5 {[%eval 27997,0] [%emt 0:00:00] (Re5+)} b1=R {[%eval 669,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} 94. Bxb1 {[%eval 27988,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke6 {[%eval 27988,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 95. Ba2 {[%eval 27989,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke7 {[%eval 27989,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 96. Bc4 {[%eval 27990,0] [%emt 0:00:00] Kerveros,Eman 4.30 64-bit POP resigns (Lag: Av=0.67s, max=1.3s)} 1-0[/pgn]
i7 5960X @ 4.1 Ghz, 64 GB G.Skill RipJaws RAM, Twin Asus ROG Strix OC 11 GB Geforce 2080 Tis
shrapnel
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Re: Twin 2080Tis and large NN

Post by shrapnel »

[pgn][Event "Rated game, 5 min"] [Site "Engine Room"] [Date "2019.10.25"] [Round "?"] [White "Shrapnel, Lc0 v0.22.0"] [Black "Kuhne, Stockfish 231019 64"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "A28"] [WhiteElo "2509"] [BlackElo "2487"] [Annotator "0.21;0.00"] [PlyCount "91"] [EventDate "2019.10.25"] [SourceTitle "playchess.com"] [TimeControl "300"] {Stockfish 231019 64 POPCNT (32 threads): 45.1 plies; 31,940kN/s AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor 3393MHz, (16 cores, 32 threads), Attaker Pro 3.ctg, 8192 MB} 1. c4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} 2. Nc3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. e4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bb4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. d3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. a3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00: 00]} Bc5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. b4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bb6 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. Be3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bg4 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Be2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 10. Bxf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 11. Na4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nxf3+ {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 12. Qxf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxe3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 13. Qxe3 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 14. O-O {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} c6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 15. d4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} a5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 16. b5 {[%eval 21,9] [%emt 0:00:05]} Rc8 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] (cxb5)} 17. dxe5 {[%eval 23,12] [%emt 0:00:06]} Ng4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 18. Qa7 {[%eval 25,14] [%emt 0:00:06]} Qh4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] (cxb5)} 19. h3 {[%eval 6,17] [%emt 0:00:06]} Nxe5 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 20. Nb6 {[%eval -2,17] [%emt 0:00:06]} Nf3+ { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 21. Kh1 {[%eval -9,24] [%emt 0:00:09]} Rce8 { [%eval 0,35] [%emt 0:00:10]} 22. Nd7 {[%eval -11,26] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rxe4 { [%eval 0,37] [%emt 0:00:03]} 23. Nxf8 {[%eval -11,25] [%emt 0:00:03]} Qf4 { [%eval 0,39] [%emt 0:00:00]} 24. g3 {[%eval -11,24] [%emt 0:00:02]} Qf5 { [%eval 0,42] [%emt 0:00:08]} 25. Kg2 {[%eval -11,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ng5 { [%eval 0,43] [%emt 0:00:08]} 26. Rh1 {[%eval -11,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re2 { [%eval 0,44] [%emt 0:00:09] (Rxc4)} 27. Nd7 {[%eval 8,20] [%emt 0:00:22]} Qe4+ {[%eval 0,49] [%emt 0:00:00]} 28. Kf1 {[%eval 10,21] [%emt 0:00:10] (Kg1)} Qxc4 {[%eval 0,39] [%emt 0:00:04] (Qd3)} 29. Kg1 {[%eval -12,16] [%emt 0:00:17]} Re8 {[%eval 0,46] [%emt 0:00:00]} 30. h4 {[%eval -21,19] [%emt 0:00:11]} Nf3+ { [%eval 0,48] [%emt 0:00:00]} 31. Kg2 {[%eval -23,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qe4 { [%eval 0,47] [%emt 0:00:10] (Qd5)} 32. Kh3 {[%eval -18,18] [%emt 0:00:10]} Qf5+ {[%eval 0,45] [%emt 0:00:00] (Qe6+)} 33. Kg2 {[%eval -18,19] [%emt 0:00:10]} Qd5 {[%eval 0,49] [%emt 0:00:00]} 34. Kh3 {[%eval -14,18] [%emt 0:00:07]} Qf5+ {[%eval 0,47] [%emt 0:00:00] (Qe6+)} 35. Kg2 {[%eval -7,15] [%emt 0:00:10]} Qe4 {[%eval 0,51] [%emt 0:00:00]} 36. Kh3 {[%eval -1,11] [%emt 0:00:07]} Qe6+ { [%eval 0,48] [%emt 0:00:04]} 37. Kg2 {[%eval -1,10] [%emt 0:00:06]} Qd5 { [%eval 0,49] [%emt 0:00:00]} 38. Kh3 {[%eval 0,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} Qxb5 { [%eval 0,47] [%emt 0:00:02]} 39. Rad1 {[%eval 3,15] [%emt 0:00:12]} Qf5+ { [%eval 0,46] [%emt 0:00:00]} 40. Kg2 {[%eval 2,12] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qe4 { [%eval 0,44] [%emt 0:00:04]} 41. Kh3 {[%eval 2,12] [%emt 0:00:09]} b5 {[%eval 0,42] [%emt 0:00:00] (Qf5+)} 42. Qe3 {[%eval 4,10] [%emt 0:00:24] (Db6)} Ng1+ { [%eval 0,45] [%emt 0:00:05]} 43. Kh2 {[%eval 2,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf3+ { [%eval 0,53] [%emt 0:00:14]} 44. Kh3 {[%eval 1,6] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ng1+ { [%eval 0,54] [%emt 0:00:08]} 45. Kh2 {[%eval 0,4] [%emt 0:00:03]} Nf3+ { [%eval 0,64] [%emt 0:00:01]} 46. Kh3 {[%eval 0,2] [%emt 0:00:10] (Lag: Av=0. 47s, max=0.7s)} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
i7 5960X @ 4.1 Ghz, 64 GB G.Skill RipJaws RAM, Twin Asus ROG Strix OC 11 GB Geforce 2080 Tis
mwyoung
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Re: Twin 2080Tis and large NN

Post by mwyoung »

shrapnel wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:11 pm Large NNs (384x30) really do improve the performance of lc0( whether Laskos Sir fully agrees or not ). Of course, twin 2080 Tis help :) , but on the other hand using a large NN with a weak GPU makes no sense and would simply backfire.
Following is a Game against a guy using 16 Cores and Stockfish..

[pgn][Event "Rated game, 16 min"] [Site "Engine Room"] [Date "2019.10.25"] [Round "?"] [White "Mrtambourineman, Stockfish 260819 64"] [Black "Shrapnel, Lc0 v0.22.0_1"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "E11"] [WhiteElo "2424"] [Annotator "0.00;0.15"] [PlyCount "123"] [EventDate "2019.10.25"] [SourceTitle "playchess.com"] [TimeControl "960"] {Stockfish 260819 64 POPCNTpp (16 threads): 41.9 plies; 23,493kN/s AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor 3693MHz, (8 cores, 16 threads), Attaker Pro 3. ctg, 8192 MB} 1. d4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00: 00]} 2. c4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. g3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bb4+ {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. Bd2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} Be7 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Bg2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. O-O {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} c6 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. Qc2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nbd7 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Rc1 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} b6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} 10. cxd5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} cxd5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Qb3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ne4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 12. Bb4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxb4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 13. Qxb4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} a5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 14. Qa3 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ba6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 15. e3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qb8 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 16. Nbd2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } Nxd2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 17. Nxd2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ra7 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 18. Rc3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Be2 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 19. Bf1 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} b5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 20. Rc2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bc4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 21. b3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxf1 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 22. Kxf1 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} a4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 23. Kg2 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qa8 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 24. b4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nb6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 25. Rc5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rb7 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 26. Qd3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd7 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 27. Rc6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nb6 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 28. Nb1 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rbb8 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 29. Rc5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} 30. Nc3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 31. f3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} h6 {[%eval 15,9] [%emt 0:00:24]} 32. Rc1 { [%eval 0,42] [%emt 0:01:18] (h4)} Rfc8 {[%eval 3,12] [%emt 0:00:22] (Tfd8)} 33. Rd1 {[%eval 0,39] [%emt 0:01:42] (e4)} Nc4 {[%eval -3,12] [%emt 0:00:30] (Db7)} 34. Rc1 {[%eval 0,40] [%emt 0:01:00] (Rb1)} a3 {[%eval -14,12] [%emt 0:00:46] (Da6)} 35. Rb1 {[%eval 0,39] [%emt 0:00:11] (h4)} Nb2 {[%eval -18,12] [%emt 0: 00:47]} 36. Qe2 {[%eval 0,44] [%emt 0:00:00] (Qd2)} Rxc5 {[%eval -24,13] [%emt 0:00:51] (Db7)} 37. dxc5 {[%eval 27,29] [%emt 0:00:16]} Qc6 {[%eval -22,14] [%emt 0:00:45]} 38. Rf1 {[%eval 0,36] [%emt 0:00:47] (h4)} e5 {[%eval -23,13] [%emt 0:01:22] (Cc4)} 39. e4 {[%eval 0,32] [%emt 0:00:19]} d4 {[%eval -20,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} 40. Nd5 {[%eval 0,34] [%emt 0:00:17]} Kh7 {[%eval -18,12] [%emt 0:00:52] (Tb7)} 41. f4 {[%eval 0,38] [%emt 0:00:34] (g4)} exf4 {[%eval -58,23] [%emt 0:00:34]} 42. Rxf4 {[%eval 0,42] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qe6 {[%eval -57, 13] [%emt 0:00:00] (d3)} 43. Qf3 {[%eval 74,35] [%emt 0:00:17]} f6 {[%eval 53, 22] [%emt 0:01:17]} 44. Qxa3 {[%eval 31,39] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc4 {[%eval 54,24] [%emt 0:00:00]} 45. Qd3 {[%eval 47,37] [%emt 0:00:18]} Ra8 {[%eval 54,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 46. Rf2 {[%eval 25,38] [%emt 0:00:36]} Qe5 {[%eval 53,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} 47. Qf3 {[%eval 32,40] [%emt 0:00:42]} Kh8 {[%eval 53,20] [%emt 0:00:21] (Ta6)} 48. Qf4 {[%eval 58,32] [%emt 0:00:19] (Kg1)} d3 {[%eval 46,21] [%emt 0:01:31]} 49. Qxe5 {[%eval 46,50] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nxe5 {[%eval 46, 20] [%emt 0:00:02]} 50. Nc3 {[%eval 35,43] [%emt 0:00:14]} Nc4 {[%eval 46,23] [%emt 0:00:01]} 51. Kf1 {[%eval 35,43] [%emt 0:00:08] (a4)} Ra3 {[%eval 42,20] [%emt 0:00:56]} 52. Nb1 {[%eval 13,48] [%emt 0:00:31] (Nd5)} Ra4 {[%eval 39,25] [%emt 0:00:38]} 53. a3 {[%eval 2,49] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nxa3 {[%eval 38,25] [%emt 0:00:14]} 54. Nxa3 {[%eval 2,50] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rxa3 {[%eval 38,24] [%emt 0: 00:10]} 55. Ke1 {[%eval 2,51] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kg8 {[%eval 38,22] [%emt 0:00:12] } 56. Kd2 {[%eval 2,50] [%emt 0:00:06]} Kf7 {[%eval 38,21] [%emt 0:00:08]} 57. c6 {[%eval 0,41] [%emt 0:00:01] (e5)} Ke6 {[%eval 17,16] [%emt 0:01:25]} 58. Rf5 {[%eval 0,54] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kd6 {[%eval 17,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 59. Rxb5 { [%eval 0,50] [%emt 0:00:07]} Kxc6 {[%eval 16,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} 60. Rc5+ { [%eval 0,49] [%emt 0:00:16]} Kd6 {[%eval 15,13] [%emt 0:00:14]} 61. Rd5+ { [%eval 0,52] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kc7 {[%eval 15,12] [%emt 0:00:17] (Rc6)} 62. Ra5 { [%eval 0,44] [%emt 0:00:09] (Rc5+)} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

Against a slightly weaker opponent, lc0 won, even though it was a 3 minute Game, supposedly not lc0's forte....

[pgn][Event "Rated game, 3 min"] [Site "Engine Room"] [Date "2019.10.25"] [Round "?"] [White "Shrapnel, Lc0 v0.22.0"] [Black "JML26, Stockfish 260819 64"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "A28"] [WhiteElo "2479"] [BlackElo "2422"] [Annotator "0.57;-0.09"] [PlyCount "145"] [EventDate "2019.10.25"] [SourceTitle "playchess.com"] [TimeControl "180"] {Stockfish 260819 64 (6 cores): 28.5 plies; 11,387kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz 2807MHz, Attaker Pro 3.ctg, 8192 MB} 1. c4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%eval -9,24] [%emt 0:00:04]} 2. Nc3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval -13,27] [%emt 0:00:09]} 3. Nf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {[%eval -22,24] [%emt 0:00:02]} 4. e4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] (a2-a3)} Bb4 {[%eval -38,25] [%emt 0:00:03]} 5. d3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d6 { [%eval -14,28] [%emt 0:00:11]} 6. a3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bc5 {[%eval 0,27] [%emt 0:00:03]} 7. b4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bb6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. Be3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bg4 {[%eval -13,26] [%emt 0:00:05]} 9. Be2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%eval 0,28] [%emt 0:00:06]} 10. O-O {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxf3 {[%eval 0,28] [%emt 0:00:01]} 11. Bxf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd4 {[%eval 0,28] [%emt 0:00:01]} 12. Na4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ne6 {[%eval 0,27] [%emt 0:00:02]} 13. Nxb6 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} axb6 {[%eval 4,26] [%emt 0:00:01]} 14. Qd2 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} h6 {[%eval 30,28] [%emt 0:00:10]} 15. a4 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%eval 29,24] [%emt 0:00:03]} 16. Bd1 {[%eval 57,5] [%emt 0:00:05] (Tf1-b1)} Nd7 {[%eval 24,23] [%emt 0:00:03]} 17. Rb1 {[%eval 47, 9] [%emt 0:00:05] (g2-g3)} Nb8 {[%eval 4,26] [%emt 0:00:04] (Nd4)} 18. b5 { [%eval 43,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} Nd7 {[%eval 25,26] [%emt 0:00:02]} 19. Qe2 { [%eval 52,9] [%emt 0:00:03] (Tb1-a1)} Qh4 {[%eval 8,24] [%emt 0:00:03]} 20. Ra1 {[%eval 51,11] [%emt 0:00:08]} Nd4 {[%eval 0,33] [%emt 0:00:00] (Nf4)} 21. Qg4 {[%eval 57,12] [%emt 0:00:04]} Qxg4 {[%eval 0,36] [%emt 0:00:00]} 22. Bxg4 { [%eval 55,13] [%emt 0:00:02]} f5 {[%eval 0,29] [%emt 0:00:04] (Nf6)} 23. exf5 { [%eval 64,16] [%emt 0:00:05]} Nc2 {[%eval 0,36] [%emt 0:00:00]} 24. Ra2 { [%eval 53,17] [%emt 0:00:07]} Nb4 {[%eval 0,38] [%emt 0:00:00]} 25. Ra3 { [%eval 55,20] [%emt 0:00:03] (Ta2-a1)} Nc2 {[%eval 0,37] [%emt 0:00:02]} 26. Rc3 {[%eval 55,22] [%emt 0:00:02] (Ta3-a2)} Nd4 {[%eval 0,35] [%emt 0:00:02]} 27. Ra3 {[%eval 55,21] [%emt 0:00:01]} Nc2 {[%eval 0,38] [%emt 0:00:03]} 28. Ra2 {[%eval 55,21] [%emt 0:00:01] (Ta3-c3)} Nb4 {[%eval 11,39] [%emt 0:00:20]} 29. Raa1 {[%eval 56,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc2 {[%eval 13,28] [%emt 0:00:03]} 30. Bf3 {[%eval 57,22] [%emt 0:00:00] (Ta1-c1)} Nxa1 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:00:02]} 31. Rxa1 {[%eval 56,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ra7 {[%eval -10,27] [%emt 0:00:02]} 32. g4 {[%eval 56,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf7 {[%eval 0,28] [%emt 0:00:02] (Rfa8)} 33. h4 {[%eval 77,14] [%emt 0:00:22]} Rfa8 {[%eval 0,38] [%emt 0:00:00]} 34. Bd1 { [%eval 84,13] [%emt 0:00:12]} Nf6 {[%eval 0,38] [%emt 0:00:00]} 35. Bd2 { [%eval 93,15] [%emt 0:00:07]} Rf8 {[%eval 46,31] [%emt 0:00:07] (Ng8)} 36. Bf3 {[%eval 140,11] [%emt 0:00:09] (Rg1-g2)} Ke7 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:02]} 37. Kg2 {[%eval 132,13] [%emt 0:00:02] (g4-g5)} Ng8 {[%eval 0,32] [%emt 0:00:02]} 38. Kg3 {[%eval 128,13] [%emt 0:00:07] (Ff3-e4)} Kd7 {[%eval 15,30] [%emt 0:00: 02]} 39. Kh3 {[%eval 129,13] [%emt 0:00:02] (Ff3-e4)} Ke7 {[%eval 0,30] [%emt 0:00:05]} 40. Bh1 {[%eval 146,15] [%emt 0:00:11] (Rh3-g3)} Kd7 {[%eval 70,28] [%emt 0:00:07]} 41. f4 {[%eval 152,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} exf4 {[%eval 65,27] [%emt 0:00:01]} 42. Bc3 {[%eval 161,17] [%emt 0:00:03] (Fh1-e4)} Nf6 {[%eval 80,25] [%emt 0:00:02]} 43. Bf3 {[%eval 162,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re8 {[%eval 111, 28] [%emt 0:00:04]} 44. Bd2 {[%eval 165,15] [%emt 0:00:01]} Kc7 {[%eval 114,30] [%emt 0:00:00]} 45. Bxf4 {[%eval 165,14] [%emt 0:00:02]} Rh8 {[%eval 110,29] [%emt 0:00:00] (Raa8)} 46. Kg3 {[%eval 168,12] [%emt 0:00:10]} Raa8 {[%eval 119,34] [%emt 0:00:00]} 47. Bd2 {[%eval 169,13] [%emt 0:00:01] (g4-g5)} Nd7 { [%eval 98,22] [%emt 0:00:01]} 48. Bc3 {[%eval 175,13] [%emt 0:00:04]} Ne5 { [%eval 201,27] [%emt 0:00:01]} 49. Be4 {[%eval 178,14] [%emt 0:00:00] (Ff3-d5)} Rhf8 {[%eval 106,24] [%emt 0:00:02]} 50. h5 {[%eval 194,11] [%emt 0:00:06] (a4-a5)} Rf7 {[%eval 94,23] [%emt 0:00:03]} 51. Kf4 {[%eval 199,12] [%emt 0:00: 03]} Rh8 {[%eval 101,27] [%emt 0:00:02] (Re7)} 52. a5 {[%eval 218,11] [%emt 0: 00:05]} bxa5 {[%eval 152,29] [%emt 0:00:00]} 53. Bxa5+ {[%eval 215,12] [%emt 0: 00:05] (Ta1xa5)} Kb8 {[%eval 157,23] [%emt 0:00:01]} 54. Bc3 {[%eval 216,11] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd7 {[%eval 177,25] [%emt 0:00:03]} 55. g5 {[%eval 220,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} hxg5+ {[%eval 205,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} 56. Kxg5 {[%eval 218,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} Ne5 {[%eval 206,25] [%emt 0:00:00] (Re7)} 57. b6 {[%eval 241,8] [%emt 0:00:03]} Re7 {[%eval 230,27] [%emt 0:00:01] (Rhf8)} 58. Rh1 {[%eval 247, 9] [%emt 0:00:02]} Rh6 {[%eval 260,28] [%emt 0:00:01]} 59. Bd5 {[%eval 251,10] [%emt 0:00:01] (Th1-f1)} Re8 {[%eval 222,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} 60. Rh3 {[%eval 245,10] [%emt 0:00:03] (d3-d4)} Re7 {[%eval 327,26] [%emt 0:00:02] (Reh8)} 61. d4 {[%eval 258,8] [%emt 0:00:01] (Th3-h1)} cxd4 {[%eval 278,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} 62. Bxd4 {[%eval 236,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re8 {[%eval 368,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} 63. Rh1 {[%eval 232,8] [%emt 0:00:01]} Rf6 {[%eval 438,27] [%emt 0:00:02] (Reh8)} 64. Bc3 {[%eval 237,8] [%emt 0:00:00] (Th1-f1)} Ref8 {[%eval 294,20] [%emt 0: 00:00] (Rh6)} 65. Rf1 {[%eval 234,9] [%emt 0:00:00] (Fd5-e6)} Re8 {[%eval 442, 25] [%emt 0:00:01] (Rh6)} 66. Bb2 {[%eval 239,7] [%emt 0:00:01] (Fc3-d4)} Kc8 { [%eval 400,20] [%emt 0:00:01]} 67. Ra1 {[%eval 247,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kb8 { [%eval 507,26] [%emt 0:00:00]} 68. Ra7 {[%eval 278,10] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re7 { [%eval 658,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} 69. c5 {[%eval 338,9] [%emt 0:00:00] (Fb2-d4)} Nf7+ {[%eval 619,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} 70. Kf4 {[%eval 368,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ne5 {[%eval 930,25] [%emt 0:00:01]} 71. c6 {[%eval 465,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nxc6 { [%eval 1208,24] [%emt 0:00:00] (Nd3+)} 72. Bxf6 {[%eval 879,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nb4 {[%eval 1773,26] [%emt 0:00:01] (gxf6)} 73. Bxe7 {[%eval 4891,6] [%emt 0: 00:00] JML26,Stockfish 260819 64 abandonne (Lag: Av=0.47s, max=1.0s)} 1-0[/pgn]
Thanks for the games. It looks like the best CPU you played was a older 8 core 2700x CPU, and this game was a draw. I have not seen any data that suggest using multi GPUs with Lc0 is worth the investment at this point. But this could change.... Right now SF is just smoking Lc0 and the other NN in my testing.

Stockfish and a good CPU provides the best chess value and strength.
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Re: Twin 2080Tis and large NN

Post by shrapnel »

A Loss on Time with Black to the mighty IpMan running a 44 Core CPU :shock: . For much of the Game, lc0 was on equal Terms and lost only because of Time pressure I think....No doubt lc0's Time Management needs improvement
[pgn][Event "Rated game, 5 min"] [Site "Engine Room"] [Date "2019.10.25"] [Round "?"] [White "IpMan, Brainfish 151019 64"] [Black "Shrapnel, Lc0 v0.22.0"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "A28"] [WhiteElo "2597"] [BlackElo "2503"] [Annotator "0.00;0.23"] [PlyCount "215"] [EventDate "2019.10.25"] [SourceTitle "playchess.com"] [TimeControl "300"] {Brainfish 151019 64 BMI2 (44 threads): 33.3 plies; 68,641kN/s Genuine Intel(R) CPU 0000 @ 2.10GHz 2095MHz, (22 cores, 44 threads), Attaker Pro 3.ctg, 8192 MB } 1. c4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 2. Nc3 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. e4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} Bb4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. d3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. a3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bc5 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. b4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bb6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} 8. Be3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxe3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 9. fxe3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ne7 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 10. d4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} exd4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 11. exd4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 12. Bd3 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} a5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 13. b5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} Ng6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 14. h3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%eval 23,11] [%emt 0:00:04]} 15. dxc5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} dxc5 { [%eval 19,12] [%emt 0:00:04]} 16. Qc2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qd6 { [%eval 12,12] [%emt 0:00:06]} 17. O-O {[%eval 0,30] [%emt 0:00:16]} Be6 { [%eval 2,13] [%emt 0:00:04]} 18. Rae1 {[%eval 0,30] [%emt 0:00:00] (Rad1)} Ne5 {[%eval -14,11] [%emt 0:00:10]} 19. Nd5 {[%eval 0,37] [%emt 0:00:04]} Nfd7 { [%eval -18,11] [%emt 0:00:07] (Bxd5)} 20. Nd2 {[%eval 0,30] [%emt 0:00:08]} Rae8 {[%eval -19,10] [%emt 0:00:04] (f6)} 21. Qc3 {[%eval -20,32] [%emt 0:00: 29]} b6 {[%eval -21,10] [%emt 0:00:00] (f6)} 22. Re3 {[%eval 0,34] [%emt 0:00: 02] (Bc2)} Bxd5 {[%eval -23,9] [%emt 0:00:20] (f6)} 23. cxd5 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:04]} Nf6 {[%eval -24,9] [%emt 0:00:11] (Kh8)} 24. Rg3 {[%eval 0,33] [%emt 0:00:06] (a4)} Kh8 {[%eval -20,9] [%emt 0:00:09]} 25. Be2 {[%eval 0,40] [%emt 0:00:00] (Bc2)} Re7 {[%eval -25,8] [%emt 0:00:08] (Ng6)} 26. Rf5 { [%eval -9,30] [%emt 0:00:24] (a4)} Rfe8 {[%eval -28,9] [%emt 0:00:16] (Ne8)} 27. Bd1 {[%eval 0,30] [%emt 0:00:03] (Rf1)} Rg8 {[%eval -27,8] [%emt 0:00:07] (Qb8)} 28. a4 {[%eval 0,36] [%emt 0:00:04]} Rge8 {[%eval -23,8] [%emt 0:00:06] (Qc7)} 29. Kh2 {[%eval 0,35] [%emt 0:00:03] (Rf1)} Rb8 {[%eval -29,8] [%emt 0: 00:10] (Rd8)} 30. Bc2 {[%eval 0,36] [%emt 0:00:04] (Kg1)} Rbe8 {[%eval -23,8] [%emt 0:00:08] (Rd8)} 31. Bd1 {[%eval 0,39] [%emt 0:00:04] (Kg1)} Rb8 {[%eval -29,7] [%emt 0:00:08] (Rg8)} 32. Bc2 {[%eval 0,40] [%emt 0:00:03] (Kg1)} Rf8 { [%eval -25,8] [%emt 0:00:08] (Rg8)} 33. Kg1 {[%eval 0,40] [%emt 0:00:07]} Rg8 { [%eval -19,9] [%emt 0:00:02]} 34. Kh1 {[%eval 0,40] [%emt 0:00:05] (Rf2)} Nfd7 {[%eval -21,8] [%emt 0:00:09]} 35. Rf1 {[%eval 0,42] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 { [%eval -19,9] [%emt 0:00:05] (f6)} 36. Rg5 {[%eval 0,36] [%emt 0:00:05]} Nfd7 { [%eval -16,10] [%emt 0:00:11]} 37. Rg3 {[%eval 0,46] [%emt 0:00:00] (Bd1)} Nf6 {[%eval -18,8] [%emt 0:00:05] (f6)} 38. Rg5 {[%eval 0,37] [%emt 0:00:03]} Rge8 {[%eval -15,10] [%emt 0:00:06] (Nfd7)} 39. Rff5 {[%eval 0,33] [%emt 0:00:03]} h6 {[%eval -15,12] [%emt 0:00:00]} 40. Rg3 {[%eval 0,35] [%emt 0:00:08]} Rg8 { [%eval -15,9] [%emt 0:00:12] (Rc8)} 41. Qe3 {[%eval 0,32] [%emt 0:00:03]} Nfd7 {[%eval -13,9] [%emt 0:00:12]} 42. Rf1 {[%eval 0,36] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 { [%eval -12,8] [%emt 0:00:08] (Rc8)} 43. Qc3 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:03] (Qf2)} Rc8 {[%eval -17,8] [%emt 0:00:08]} 44. Rf5 {[%eval 0,39] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rce8 { [%eval -16,8] [%emt 0:00:04] (Rd8)} 45. Kg1 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:02] (Qe3)} Rg8 {[%eval -15,8] [%emt 0:00:07] (Rc7)} 46. Re3 {[%eval 0,32] [%emt 0:00:03] (Rf2)} Nfd7 {[%eval -17,8] [%emt 0:00:06] (Rge8)} 47. Nf1 {[%eval 0,34] [%emt 0:00:04] (Rf1)} g6 {[%eval -21,8] [%emt 0:00:06] (Rge8)} 48. Rf2 {[%eval 0,34] [%emt 0:00:02]} Kg7 {[%eval -25,8] [%emt 0:00:02]} 49. Re1 {[%eval 0,37] [%emt 0:00:01]} h5 {[%eval -27,8] [%emt 0:00:06] (c4)} 50. Qa3 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0: 00:02] (Rd1)} Ree8 {[%eval -31,7] [%emt 0:00:04] (Nc4)} 51. Ng3 {[%eval 15,25] [%emt 0:00:03] (Nd2)} Kf8 {[%eval -33,8] [%emt 0:00:03] (h4)} 52. Ref1 { [%eval 15,31] [%emt 0:00:05] (Ne2)} Ke7 {[%eval -22,10] [%emt 0:00:04] (Kg7)} 53. Ne2 {[%eval 26,27] [%emt 0:00:04]} Rgf8 {[%eval -19,10] [%emt 0:00:04] (f6) } 54. Bb1 {[%eval 0,36] [%emt 0:00:11] (Bd1)} h4 {[%eval -32,8] [%emt 0:00:02]} 55. Qe3 {[%eval -9,34] [%emt 0:00:00] (Qc1)} Rh8 {[%eval -30,9] [%emt 0:00:02] (f6)} 56. Nc3 {[%eval 0,30] [%emt 0:00:02]} f6 {[%eval -25,9] [%emt 0:00:04]} 57. Nd1 {[%eval 0,34] [%emt 0:00:00] (Bd3)} Kd8 {[%eval -27,8] [%emt 0:00:01] (c4)} 58. Qe2 {[%eval 28,25] [%emt 0:00:03] (Qd2)} Kc8 {[%eval -27,8] [%emt 0: 00:03] (Kc7)} 59. Ne3 {[%eval 0,29] [%emt 0:00:03]} Kb8 {[%eval -21,8] [%emt 0: 00:00]} 60. Ba2 {[%eval 0,32] [%emt 0:00:02]} Ka7 {[%eval -18,8] [%emt 0:00:02] (Kb7)} 61. Qc2 {[%eval 0,30] [%emt 0:00:02] (Bc4)} Rhf8 {[%eval -14,7] [%emt 0: 00:02]} 62. Qc3 {[%eval 0,35] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kh1)} Re7 {[%eval -14,7] [%emt 0: 00:01] (Kb7)} 63. Qc2 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:02] (Rf4)} Rfe8 {[%eval -16,6] [%emt 0:00:01] (Ree8)} 64. Bc4 {[%eval 0,24] [%emt 0:00:01]} Rf8 {[%eval -3,7] [%emt 0:00:01]} 65. Be2 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kh1)} Rc8 {[%eval -9,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 66. Qa2 {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:00] (Bc4)} c4 {[%eval -2,7] [%emt 0:00:01] (Rf8)} 67. Nxc4 {[%eval 0,32] [%emt 0:00:01]} Nxc4 {[%eval 22, 12] [%emt 0:00:00]} 68. Bxc4 {[%eval 0,36] [%emt 0:00:01]} Rc7 {[%eval 19,13] [%emt 0:00:00] (g5)} 69. Bd3 {[%eval 73,24] [%emt 0:00:02] (Be2)} g5 {[%eval 12,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} 70. Qd2 {[%eval 44,31] [%emt 0:00:02]} Rc5 {[%eval 19,7] [%emt 0:00:01] (Rc8)} 71. Kh1 {[%eval 55,29] [%emt 0:00:03] (Qb2)} Re5 { [%eval 36,10] [%emt 0:00:00] (Re8)} 72. Bc2 {[%eval 41,29] [%emt 0:00:01] (Qd1) } Rc4 {[%eval 28,7] [%emt 0:00:00] (Rc8)} 73. Qd3 {[%eval 41,34] [%emt 0:00:04] } Qc5 {[%eval 39,10] [%emt 0:00:00] (Rc7)} 74. Qd1 {[%eval 50,33] [%emt 0:00: 03]} Qd6 {[%eval 34,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 75. Bb1 {[%eval 58,30] [%emt 0:00:01] (Qh5)} Re7 {[%eval 20,6] [%emt 0:00:00] (Re8)} 76. Qd3 {[%eval 40,31] [%emt 0: 00:02] (Bd3)} Rc7 {[%eval 42,9] [%emt 0:00:00] (Rc8)} 77. Bc2 {[%eval 52,29] [%emt 0:00:01]} Re5 {[%eval 39,10] [%emt 0:00:00]} 78. Qe2 {[%eval 56,30] [%emt 0:00:00] (Qd4)} Re7 {[%eval 24,6] [%emt 0:00:00] (Rc8)} 79. Qd3 {[%eval 40,30] [%emt 0:00:01] (Qh5)} Re5 {[%eval 41,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 80. 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Qf3 {[%eval 0,35] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re5 { [%eval 64,10] [%emt 0:00:00]} 93. Rxe5 {[%eval 0,33] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qxe5 { [%eval 57,11] [%emt 0:00:00]} 94. Rd1 {[%eval 0,37] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qd4 { [%eval 38,12] [%emt 0:00:00] (Re7)} 95. Bf1 {[%eval 46,26] [%emt 0:00:01] (Be2) } Qxa4 {[%eval 0,8] [%emt 0:00:00] (Qe5)} 96. g4 {[%eval 31,23] [%emt 0:00:01] (Be2)} Ne4 {[%eval 37,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} 97. Kg1 {[%eval 0,38] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rc3 {[%eval 48,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} 98. Rd3 {[%eval 0,43] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rxd3 { [%eval 64,20] [%emt 0:00:00]} 99. Qxd3 {[%eval 0,46] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qb4 { [%eval 63,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} 100. Qd7+ {[%eval 0,45] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kb8 { [%eval 66,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} 101. Qd8+ {[%eval 0,43] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kb7 { [%eval 67,19] [%emt 0:00:00] '} 102. Qd5+ {[%eval 0,43] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kc7 { [%eval 67,15] [%emt 0:00:00] (Ka7)} 103. Qc6+ {[%eval 0,31] [%emt 0:00:01]} Kd8 {[%eval 70,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} 104. Qxb6+ {[%eval 0,39] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke8 { [%eval 70,13] [%emt 0:00:00] (Kd7)} 105. Qe3 {[%eval 131,22] [%emt 0:00:01] (Qc6+)} Kf8 {[%eval 61,17] [%emt 0:00:00]} 106. Bg2 {[%eval 42,25] [%emt 0:00: 00]} Nd6 {[%eval 52,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} 107. Qe6 {[%eval 13,27] [%emt 0:00:00]} a4 {[%eval 46,12] [%emt 0:00:00] (Qc5+) Time} 108. Qh6+ {[%eval 65,23] [%emt 0: 00:01]} 1-0[/pgn]
i7 5960X @ 4.1 Ghz, 64 GB G.Skill RipJaws RAM, Twin Asus ROG Strix OC 11 GB Geforce 2080 Tis
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Re: Twin 2080Tis and large NN

Post by mwyoung »

shrapnel wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:04 pm [pgn][Event "Rated game, 5 min"] [Site "Engine Room"] [Date "2019.10.25"] [Round "?"] [White "Shrapnel, Lc0 v0.22.0"] [Black "Kuhne, Stockfish 231019 64"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "A28"] [WhiteElo "2509"] [BlackElo "2487"] [Annotator "0.21;0.00"] [PlyCount "91"] [EventDate "2019.10.25"] [SourceTitle "playchess.com"] [TimeControl "300"] {Stockfish 231019 64 POPCNT (32 threads): 45.1 plies; 31,940kN/s AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor 3393MHz, (16 cores, 32 threads), Attaker Pro 3.ctg, 8192 MB} 1. c4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} 2. Nc3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. e4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bb4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. d3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. a3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00: 00]} Bc5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. b4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bb6 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. Be3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bg4 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Be2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 10. Bxf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nd4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] } 11. Na4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nxf3+ {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 12. Qxf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxe3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 13. Qxe3 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 14. O-O {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} c6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 15. d4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0: 00:00]} a5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 16. b5 {[%eval 21,9] [%emt 0:00:05]} Rc8 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] (cxb5)} 17. dxe5 {[%eval 23,12] [%emt 0:00:06]} Ng4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 18. Qa7 {[%eval 25,14] [%emt 0:00:06]} Qh4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00] (cxb5)} 19. h3 {[%eval 6,17] [%emt 0:00:06]} Nxe5 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 20. Nb6 {[%eval -2,17] [%emt 0:00:06]} Nf3+ { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 21. Kh1 {[%eval -9,24] [%emt 0:00:09]} Rce8 { [%eval 0,35] [%emt 0:00:10]} 22. Nd7 {[%eval -11,26] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rxe4 { [%eval 0,37] [%emt 0:00:03]} 23. Nxf8 {[%eval -11,25] [%emt 0:00:03]} Qf4 { [%eval 0,39] [%emt 0:00:00]} 24. g3 {[%eval -11,24] [%emt 0:00:02]} Qf5 { [%eval 0,42] [%emt 0:00:08]} 25. Kg2 {[%eval -11,21] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ng5 { [%eval 0,43] [%emt 0:00:08]} 26. Rh1 {[%eval -11,22] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re2 { [%eval 0,44] [%emt 0:00:09] (Rxc4)} 27. Nd7 {[%eval 8,20] [%emt 0:00:22]} Qe4+ {[%eval 0,49] [%emt 0:00:00]} 28. Kf1 {[%eval 10,21] [%emt 0:00:10] (Kg1)} Qxc4 {[%eval 0,39] [%emt 0:00:04] (Qd3)} 29. Kg1 {[%eval -12,16] [%emt 0:00:17]} Re8 {[%eval 0,46] [%emt 0:00:00]} 30. h4 {[%eval -21,19] [%emt 0:00:11]} Nf3+ { [%eval 0,48] [%emt 0:00:00]} 31. Kg2 {[%eval -23,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qe4 { [%eval 0,47] [%emt 0:00:10] (Qd5)} 32. Kh3 {[%eval -18,18] [%emt 0:00:10]} Qf5+ {[%eval 0,45] [%emt 0:00:00] (Qe6+)} 33. Kg2 {[%eval -18,19] [%emt 0:00:10]} Qd5 {[%eval 0,49] [%emt 0:00:00]} 34. Kh3 {[%eval -14,18] [%emt 0:00:07]} Qf5+ {[%eval 0,47] [%emt 0:00:00] (Qe6+)} 35. Kg2 {[%eval -7,15] [%emt 0:00:10]} Qe4 {[%eval 0,51] [%emt 0:00:00]} 36. Kh3 {[%eval -1,11] [%emt 0:00:07]} Qe6+ { [%eval 0,48] [%emt 0:00:04]} 37. Kg2 {[%eval -1,10] [%emt 0:00:06]} Qd5 { [%eval 0,49] [%emt 0:00:00]} 38. Kh3 {[%eval 0,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} Qxb5 { [%eval 0,47] [%emt 0:00:02]} 39. Rad1 {[%eval 3,15] [%emt 0:00:12]} Qf5+ { [%eval 0,46] [%emt 0:00:00]} 40. Kg2 {[%eval 2,12] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qe4 { [%eval 0,44] [%emt 0:00:04]} 41. Kh3 {[%eval 2,12] [%emt 0:00:09]} b5 {[%eval 0,42] [%emt 0:00:00] (Qf5+)} 42. Qe3 {[%eval 4,10] [%emt 0:00:24] (Db6)} Ng1+ { [%eval 0,45] [%emt 0:00:05]} 43. Kh2 {[%eval 2,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf3+ { [%eval 0,53] [%emt 0:00:14]} 44. Kh3 {[%eval 1,6] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ng1+ { [%eval 0,54] [%emt 0:00:08]} 45. Kh2 {[%eval 0,4] [%emt 0:00:03]} Nf3+ { [%eval 0,64] [%emt 0:00:01]} 46. Kh3 {[%eval 0,2] [%emt 0:00:10] (Lag: Av=0. 47s, max=0.7s)} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
I guess you were still posting games... This is the 16 core game.
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Re: Twin 2080Tis and large NN

Post by shrapnel »

mwyoung wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:20 pm for the games. It looks like the best CPU you played was a older 8 core 2700x CPU, and this game was a draw. I have not seen any data that suggest using multi GPUs with Lc0 is worth the investment at this point. But this could change.... Right now SF is just smoking Lc0 and the other NN in my testing.

Stockfish and a good CPU provides the best chess value and strength.
I play with the Players I get ; I can't help what CPU they use.
Its early days yet, I hope to prove you wrong as Sergio's NNs can only get better....
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mwyoung
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Re: Twin 2080Tis and large NN

Post by mwyoung »

shrapnel wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:33 pm
mwyoung wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:20 pm for the games. It looks like the best CPU you played was a older 8 core 2700x CPU, and this game was a draw. I have not seen any data that suggest using multi GPUs with Lc0 is worth the investment at this point. But this could change.... Right now SF is just smoking Lc0 and the other NN in my testing.

Stockfish and a good CPU provides the best chess value and strength.
I play with the Players I get ; I can't help what CPU they use.
Its early days yet, I hope to prove you wrong as Sergio's NNs can only get better....
I hope you prove me wrong also. Stockfish right now is a tough nut to crack for Lc0. Keep posting results....
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Re: Twin 2080Tis and large NN

Post by shrapnel »

OK ! A Draw against the mighty 44 Core IpMan ! No question of lco "getting smoked" provided Two or more 2080 Tis are used. You are only using one I think. I only hope I don't "smoke" my two 2080 Tis, the heat being produced is stunning. I'm running all Case/System fans , a Table Fan and the Air-Conditioning on full blast.... OK, enough for today, have to go to Work early tomorrow morning.

[pgn][Event "Rated game, 5 min"] [Site "Engine Room"] [Date "2019.10.25"] [Round "?"] [White "Shrapnel, Lc0 v0.22.0"] [Black "IpMan, Brainfish 151019 64"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "E14"] [WhiteElo "2491"] [BlackElo "2609"] [Annotator "0.10;-0.57"] [PlyCount "155"] [EventDate "2019.10.25"] [SourceTitle "playchess.com"] [TimeControl "300"] {Brainfish 151019 64 BMI2 (44 threads): 34.0 plies; 74,437kN/s Genuine Intel(R) CPU 0000 @ 2.10GHz 2095MHz, (22 cores, 44 threads), Attaker Pro 3.ctg, 8192 MB } 1. Nf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 2. d4 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. c4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. e3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00: 00]} b6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. b3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bb7 { [%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Bb2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bd6 {[%eval 0, 0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Bd3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8. 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Re: Twin 2080Tis and large NN

Post by corres »

I made some short matches between 42872 (256x20) net and 384x30-t40-970 (big) net.
GPUs 2 x RTX 2060 OC, its chess power more than 1 x RTX 2080Ti OC
1. match
Time = 1 min + 2 sec / move
Result
42872net : 384x30-t40-970net = 9 : 1 (20 draw) 2 x 15 = 30 games
2. match
Time = 1 min + 20 sec / move
Result
42872net : 384x30-t40-970net = 3 : 0 (27 draw) 2 x 15 = 30 games
Opening positions was the same in both matches.
Leela parameters were also the same in the case of the two net.
So enhancing the move time (or the power of GPUs) the result tend to reach equality.
It would be interesting to make a match with Time = 1 min + 200 sec / move (~ FIDE tempo)