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zullil
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Re: Crystal, the new tactical monster

Post by zullil » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:12 pm

Max wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:43 pm

@Louis: what do you get with only one thread and 6-man tbs? Does it switch to Rh1?
I don't see Rh1 as a first choice during the search.

6-man Syzygy and all other settings at default:

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info depth 23 seldepth 44 multipv 1 score cp -596 nodes 30037717 nps 1748004 hashfull 1000 tbhits 83 time 17184 pv d3h7 g8h7 f1h1 h7g8 f3d2 a1c3 b1c3 b6d4 f6e7 c6e7 d1h5 d4g4 h5g4 d7g4 c1a3 f8c8 h1c1 e7f5 g2f2 d5d4 c3e4 c8c1 a3c1 b8e8 e4c5 e8e5 d2e4 f5d6 e4d6 e5c5 c1f4 a5a4 d6e4 c5c2 f2g3 g4f5 g3f3 f5e4 f3e4
info depth 24 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 24 seldepth 38 multipv 1 score cp -585 lowerbound nodes 34123095 nps 1749274 hashfull 1000 tbhits 215 time 19507 pv d3h7
info depth 24 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 24 seldepth 38 multipv 1 score cp -575 lowerbound nodes 35433781 nps 1742587 hashfull 1000 tbhits 216 time 20334 pv d3h7
info depth 24 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 24 seldepth 38 multipv 1 score cp -559 lowerbound nodes 36680979 nps 1737282 hashfull 1000 tbhits 258 time 21114 pv d3h7
info depth 24 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 24 seldepth 38 multipv 1 score cp -538 lowerbound nodes 37668118 nps 1733301 hashfull 1000 tbhits 295 time 21732 pv d3h7
info depth 24 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 24 seldepth 38 multipv 1 score cp -508 lowerbound nodes 38946901 nps 1727824 hashfull 1000 tbhits 310 time 22541 pv d3h7
info depth 24 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 24 seldepth 38 multipv 1 score cp -470 lowerbound nodes 40412398 nps 1722094 hashfull 1000 tbhits 316 time 23467 pv d3h7
info depth 24 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 24 seldepth 38 multipv 1 score cp -420 lowerbound nodes 42679900 nps 1713708 hashfull 1000 tbhits 318 time 24905 pv d3h7
info depth 24 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 24 seldepth 38 multipv 1 score cp -355 lowerbound nodes 45107387 nps 1704609 hashfull 1000 tbhits 330 time 26462 pv d3h7
info depth 24 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 24 seldepth 38 multipv 1 score cp -272 lowerbound nodes 48522267 nps 1693267 hashfull 1000 tbhits 351 time 28656 pv d3h7
info depth 24 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 24 seldepth 38 multipv 1 score cp -166 lowerbound nodes 52966338 nps 1679445 hashfull 1000 tbhits 353 time 31538 pv d3h7
info depth 24 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 24 seldepth 38 multipv 1 score cp -31 lowerbound nodes 59477203 nps 1666261 hashfull 1000 tbhits 375 time 35695 pv d3h7
info depth 24 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 24 currmove f6e7 currmovenumber 2
info depth 24 currmove f1h1 currmovenumber 3
info depth 24 currmove f3d2 currmovenumber 4
info depth 24 currmove b1d2 currmovenumber 5
info depth 24 currmove f1e1 currmovenumber 6
info depth 24 currmove d3b5 currmovenumber 7
info depth 24 currmove d1d2 currmovenumber 8
info depth 24 currmove g2f2 currmovenumber 9
info depth 24 currmove c1a3 currmovenumber 10
info depth 24 currmove c1e3 currmovenumber 11
info depth 24 currmove f1g1 currmovenumber 12
info depth 24 currmove c1f4 currmovenumber 13
info depth 24 currmove d1c2 currmovenumber 14
info depth 24 currmove d1a4 currmovenumber 15
info depth 24 currmove g2g1 currmovenumber 16
info depth 24 currmove g2h2 currmovenumber 17
info depth 24 currmove d3e2 currmovenumber 18
info depth 24 currmove g2g3 currmovenumber 19
info depth 24 currmove g2h1 currmovenumber 20
info depth 24 currmove d1e1 currmovenumber 21
info depth 24 currmove e5e6 currmovenumber 22
info depth 24 currmove d3a6 currmovenumber 23
info depth 24 currmove c1d2 currmovenumber 24
info depth 24 currmove d1b3 currmovenumber 25
info depth 24 currmove f3h4 currmovenumber 26
info depth 24 currmove f1f2 currmovenumber 27
info depth 24 currmove g5g6 currmovenumber 28
info depth 24 currmove d3c4 currmovenumber 29
info depth 24 currmove d1e2 currmovenumber 30
info depth 24 currmove b1a3 currmovenumber 31
info depth 24 currmove c3c4 currmovenumber 32
info depth 24 currmove f3e1 currmovenumber 33
info depth 24 currmove f3g1 currmovenumber 34
info depth 24 currmove d3e4 currmovenumber 35
info depth 24 currmove c1b2 currmovenumber 36
info depth 24 currmove d3f5 currmovenumber 37
info depth 24 currmove d3c2 currmovenumber 38
info depth 24 currmove f3h2 currmovenumber 39
info depth 24 currmove d3g6 currmovenumber 40
info depth 24 currmove f6g7 currmovenumber 41
info depth 24 seldepth 38 multipv 1 score cp 0 nodes 64136330 nps 1659585 hashfull 1000 tbhits 381 time 38646 pv d3h7 g8h7 f1h1 h7g8 h1h8 g8h8 d1h1 h8g8 f6g7 g8g7 h1h6 g7g8 g5g6 d7h3 g2h3 f7g6 h6g6 g8h8 g6h6 h8g8
info depth 25 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 25 seldepth 39 multipv 1 score cp 10 lowerbound nodes 76026251 nps 1658006 hashfull 1000 tbhits 908 time 45854 pv d3h7
info depth 25 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 25 seldepth 39 multipv 1 score cp 21 lowerbound nodes 82110048 nps 1652479 hashfull 1000 tbhits 912 time 49689 pv d3h7
info depth 25 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 25 seldepth 39 multipv 1 score cp 37 lowerbound nodes 86968360 nps 1648033 hashfull 1000 tbhits 948 time 52771 pv d3h7
info depth 25 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 25 seldepth 39 multipv 1 score cp 58 lowerbound nodes 92554271 nps 1642897 hashfull 1000 tbhits 950 time 56336 pv d3h7
info depth 25 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 25 seldepth 39 multipv 1 score cp 87 lowerbound nodes 99291745 nps 1639045 hashfull 1000 tbhits 983 time 60579 pv d3h7
info depth 25 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 25 seldepth 39 multipv 1 score cp 126 lowerbound nodes 106481369 nps 1634202 hashfull 1000 tbhits 1013 time 65158 pv d3h7
info depth 25 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 25 seldepth 39 multipv 1 score cp 176 lowerbound nodes 116069146 nps 1627441 hashfull 1000 tbhits 1055 time 71320 pv d3h7
info depth 25 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 25 seldepth 39 multipv 1 score cp 241 lowerbound nodes 125178843 nps 1621319 hashfull 1000 tbhits 1088 time 77208 pv d3h7
info depth 25 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 25 seldepth 39 multipv 1 score cp 324 lowerbound nodes 138350628 nps 1617152 hashfull 1000 tbhits 1171 time 85552 pv d3h7
info depth 25 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 25 seldepth 39 multipv 1 score cp 430 lowerbound nodes 155234895 nps 1615213 hashfull 1000 tbhits 1285 time 96108 pv d3h7
info depth 25 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 25 seldepth 52 multipv 1 score cp 565 lowerbound nodes 178528862 nps 1609252 hashfull 1000 tbhits 1682 time 110939 pv d3h7
info depth 25 currmove d3h7 currmovenumber 1
info depth 25 currmove f6e7 currmovenumber 2
info depth 25 currmove f1h1 currmovenumber 3
info depth 25 currmove f3d2 currmovenumber 4
info depth 25 currmove g2h2 currmovenumber 5
info depth 25 currmove d1e2 currmovenumber 6
info depth 25 currmove d1c2 currmovenumber 7
info depth 25 currmove b1d2 currmovenumber 8
info depth 25 currmove f3h4 currmovenumber 9
info depth 25 currmove d3g6 currmovenumber 10
info depth 25 currmove d3c2 currmovenumber 11
info depth 25 currmove c1e3 currmovenumber 12
info depth 25 currmove b1a3 currmovenumber 13
info depth 25 currmove g5g6 currmovenumber 14
info depth 25 currmove f3h2 currmovenumber 15
info depth 25 currmove d1a4 currmovenumber 16
info depth 25 currmove g2g3 currmovenumber 17
info depth 25 currmove d3c4 currmovenumber 18
info depth 25 currmove f1g1 currmovenumber 19
info depth 25 currmove d3a6 currmovenumber 20
info depth 25 currmove g2h1 currmovenumber 21
info depth 25 currmove f1e1 currmovenumber 22
info depth 25 currmove f1f2 currmovenumber 23
info depth 25 currmove c1b2 currmovenumber 24
info depth 25 currmove f3g1 currmovenumber 25
info depth 25 currmove d1d2 currmovenumber 26
info depth 25 currmove c1a3 currmovenumber 27
info depth 25 currmove d1b3 currmovenumber 28
info depth 25 currmove d1e1 currmovenumber 29
info depth 25 currmove c1f4 currmovenumber 30
info depth 25 currmove g2g1 currmovenumber 31
info depth 25 currmove f3e1 currmovenumber 32
info depth 25 currmove d3b5 currmovenumber 33
info depth 25 currmove e5e6 currmovenumber 34
info depth 25 currmove g2f2 currmovenumber 35
info depth 25 currmove c1d2 currmovenumber 36
info depth 25 currmove d3f5 currmovenumber 37
info depth 25 currmove d3e2 currmovenumber 38
info depth 25 currmove d3e4 currmovenumber 39
info depth 25 currmove c3c4 currmovenumber 40
info depth 25 currmove f6g7 currmovenumber 41
info depth 25 seldepth 55 multipv 1 score cp 552 nodes 179321415 nps 1610763 hashfull 1000 tbhits 1724 time 111327 pv d3h7 g8h7 f1h1 h7g8 h1h8 g8h8 d1h1 h8g8 g5g6 f7g6 f3g5 b6b2 c1b2 a1b2 g2g3 b2f2 g3f2 f8f6 e5f6 e7f6 h1d5 g8h8 g5f7 h8h7 d5d7 c6d8 f7d8 f6h4 f2e3 b8d8 d7g4 h4f6 e3d3 a5a4 b1a3 f6e7 a3c4

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Re: Crystal, the new tactical monster

Post by Max » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:12 pm

jhellis3 wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:52 pm
As Mike pointed out, there is no real anomalous behavior here. When the switch to Rh1 occurs, it is still a vast improvement from -6 to -1 (the search has not yet seen that Bxh7+ is winning).

TBs usage can result in different search cutoffs at different plies & depths, which can add some variability to the search. Often it is better, though sometimes it can delay awareness of tactical shots for a few iterations.
Thanks for explaining.

Didn't expect, that 5-man tbs has such big impact to search in a middlegame position.
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Re: Crystal, the new tactical monster

Post by MikeB » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:41 am

Max wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:02 pm
MikeB wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:18 pm
same position with Honey-X5i with same setup - Honey does not see the solution and gets stick on the drawing Rh1

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dep	score	nodes	time	(not shown:  tbhits	knps	seldep)
 42	+50.04 	5.18G	7:56.10	Rh1 Qbxb1 Rxh7 Bh3+ Rxh3 Qxc1 Bh7+ Kh8 Qe1 gxf6 Bb1+ Kg8 Rh8+ Kg7 Rh7+ Kg8 
 41	+49.96 	4.24G	6:28.62	Rh1 Qbxb1 Rxh7 Bh3+ Rxh3 Qxc1 Bh7+ Kh8 Qe1 gxf6 Bb1+ Kg8 Rh8+ Kg7 Rh7+ Kg8 
 40	+50.04 	3.82G	5:48.93	Rh1 Qbxb1 Rxh7 Bh3+ Rxh3 Qxc1 Bh7+ Kh8 Qe1 gxf6 Bb1+ Kg8 Rh8+ Kg7 Rh7+ Kg8 
 39	+49.96 	3.66G	5:34.15	Rh1 Qbxb1 Rxh7 Bh3+ Rxh3 Qxc1 Qxc1 Qxc1 Bh7+ Kh8 Bf5+ Kg8 
 38	+50.04 	2.69G	4:03.09	Rh1 Qbxb1 Rxh7 Bh3+ Rxh3 Qxc1 Qxc1 Qxc1 Bh7+ Kh8 Bc2+ Kg8 
 37	+49.96 	2.15G	3:13.32	Rh1 Qbxb1 Rxh7 Bh3+ Rxh3 Qxc1 Qxc1 Qxc1 Bh7+ Kh8 Bc2+ Kg8 
 36	+50.04 	2.03G	3:01.25	Rh1 Qbxb1 Rxh7 Bh3+ Rxh3 Qxc1 Qxc1 Qxc1 Bh7+ Kh8 Bd3+ 
 35	+50.04 	1.71G	2:31.69	Rh1 Qbxb1 Rxh7 Bh3+ Rxh3 Qxc1 Bh7+ Kh8 Bf5+ Kg8 
 34	+50.04 	1.58G	2:19.29	Rh1 Qbxb1 Rxh7 Bh3+ Rxh3 Qxc1 Bh7+ Kh8 Qxc1 Qxc1 Be4+ Kg8 Bh7+ 
 33	+50.04 	1.44G	2:06.62	Rh1 Qbxb1 Rxh7 Bh3+ Rxh3 Qxc1 Bh7+ Kh8 Qxc1 Qxc1 Bg6+ Kg8 Bh7+ 
 32	+50.04 	1.44G	2:06.08	Rh1 Bh3+ Rxh3 Qbxb1 Rxh7 Rb2+ Nd2 Rxd2+ Qxd2 Qxc1 Qxc1 Qxc1 Rxg7+ Kh8 Rh7+ Kg8 
 31	+50.04 	1.08G	1:32.43	Rh1 Bh3+ Rxh3 Qbxb1 Rxh7 Rb2+ Kg3 Rg2+ Kxg2 Qxc1 Qxc1 Qxc1 Rxg7+ Kh8 Rh7+ Kg8 
 31	+37.59!	1.06G	1:31.11	Rh1! 
 31	+24.89!	1.05G	1:30.53	Rh1! 
 31	+17.13!	1.05G	1:30.38	Rh1! 
 31	+12.47!	1.05G	1:30.01	Rh1! 
 31	+9.62!	1.05G	1:29.85	Rh1! 
 31	+7.82!	1.05G	1:29.72	Rh1! 
 31	+6.64!	1.04G	1:29.61	Rh1! 
 31	+5.85!	1.04G	1:29.50	Rh1! 
 31	+5.31!	1.04G	1:29.06	Rh1! 
 31	+4.95!	1.03G	1:28.62	Rh1! 
 31	+4.70!	1.03G	1:28.07	Rh1! 
 31	+4.53!	1.01G	1:26.48	Rh1! 
 30	+4.37 	970.8M	1:23.22	Rh1 Qa2+ Kg3 h6 fxg7 Kxg7 Rxh6 Rg8 Qh1 Bc5 Rh2 Bxd4 Rxa2 Rh8 Qf1 Nxe5 cxd4 Nxf3 Bf4 Qxd4 Bxb8 Rh3+ Qxh3 Bxh3 Kxf3 Qxd3+ Kf2 Qxb1 Be5+ Kg6 Ra3 Qf5+ Rf3 Qxe5 Rxh3 Qxg5 
 30	+5.18!	959.6M	1:22.25	Rh1! 
 30	+4.17!	953.8M	1:21.75	Rh1! 
 30	+3.52!	951.7M	1:21.57	Rh1! 
 30	+3.09!	951.6M	1:21.55	Rh1! 
 30	+2.80!	951.1M	1:21.51	Rh1! 
 30	+2.60!	950.2M	1:21.44	Rh1! 
 30	+2.46!	937.1M	1:20.31	Rh1! 
 30	+2.38?	763.6M	1:05.54	Rh1 h6? 
 29	+2.46 	726.1M	1:02.40	Rh1 h6 Qg1 Qa2+ Nbd2 Rfc8 gxh6 g6 fxe7 Nxe7 h7+ Kh8 Ng5 Rf8 Qe1 Nf5 Be2 f6 exf6 Ne3+ Kg1 Qxf6 Ndf3 Qf5 Nf7+ Rxf7 Bxe3 Rxh7 
 29	+3.81!	642.8M	0:55.24	Rh1! 
 29	+3.21!	558.5M	0:47.96	Rh1! 
 29	+2.82!	537.0M	0:46.08	Rh1! 
 29	+2.55!	525.0M	0:45.02	Rh1! 
 29	+2.35?	292.2M	0:25.04	Rh1 h6? 
 29	+2.63!	286.2M	0:24.51	Rh1! 
 29	+2.53!	272.0M	0:23.23	Rh1! 
 28	+2.44 	186.9M	0:15.90	Qe1 g6 Qh4 Rfc8 fxe7 Nxe7 Rh1 h5 gxh6 Qa2+ Kg3 Nf5+ Bxf5 gxf5 h7+ Kh8 Bg5 Qg6 Nbd2 Rb6 Kf2 f4 Bxf4 Qg4 Qxg4 Bxg4 Ng5 Be6 Rh6 Rb2 Nf3 Bf5 e6 Bxh7 e7 Re8 Bg5 Rc2 Rc6 Kg7 Kg3 Bf5 Bf6+ Kg8 
 28	+2.51?	168.9M	0:14.38	Qe1 g6? 
 28	+2.70?	161.3M	0:13.75	Qe1 g6? 
 28	+2.91!	152.1M	0:12.96	Qe1! 
 28	+2.80?	139.3M	0:11.83	Qe1 g6? 
 27	+2.91 	131.3M	0:11.14	Qe1 g6 Qh4 Rfc8 fxe7 Nxe7 Rh1 h5 gxh6 Qa2+ Kg3 Nf5+ Bxf5 gxf5 h7+ Kh8 Bg5 Qg6 Nbd2 Rb6 Qf4 Qg7 Kf2 Rg6 Rg1 Qxh7 Nh4 Rxc3 Nxg6+ fxg6 Rb1 Rd3 Rb8+ Kg7 Rd8 Qa4 Bf6+ Kf7 Nf3 Qc2+ Kg3 
 27	+2.90!	128.3M	0:10.88	Qe1! 
 27	+2.80?	117.4M	0:09.93	Qe1 g6? 
 26	+2.90 	112.8M	0:09.54	Qe1 g6 Qh4 Rfc8 fxe7 Nxe7 Rh1 h5 gxh6 Qa2+ Kg3 Nf5+ Bxf5 gxf5 Bg5 Qg6 h7+ Kh8 Nbd2 Rb6 Kf2 f4 Rh2 Rxc3 Qxf4 Bf5 Rh1 Qc2 Bf6+ Rxf6 exf6 Qxf6 Kg1 Qg7+ Kf2 Bxh7 
 26	+3.47!	110.7M	0:09.36	Qe1! 
 26	+3.15!	109.1M	0:09.23	Qe1! 
 26	+2.93!	108.1M	0:09.15	Qe1! 
 26	+2.77!	106.9M	0:09.04	Qe1! 
 26	+2.67!	106.1M	0:08.97	Qe1! 
 25	+2.58 	91.2M  	0:07.70	Qe1 g6 Qh4 Rfd8 fxe7 Nxe7 Rh1 Qa2+ Nbd2 h5 gxh6 Nf5 Bxf5 Bxf5 Kg3 f6 h7+ Kh8 exf6 Rf8 Ne5 Qxf6 Ndf3 Qxh4+ Nxh4 Qc2 Nxf5 Rxf5 Nxg6+ Kg7 Nf4 Rg5+ Kh4 Qxh7+ Kxg5 Qxh1 Be3 
 25	+2.76!	87.3M  	0:07.38	Qe1! 
 25	+2.61?	82.4M  	0:06.95	Qe1 g6? 
 25	+2.81!	79.0M  	0:06.65	Qe1! 
 24	+2.71 	76.1M  	0:06.38	Qe1 g6 Qh4 Rfd8 fxe7 Nxe7 Rh1 Qa2+ Nbd2 h5 gxh6 Nf5 Qf2 Rdc8 c4 Qe6 Ng5 Qa6 Bxf5 Bxf5 h7+ Kg7 c5 f6 Ngf3 Qc2 Qe3 Qcd3 Qh6+ Kh8 Qf4 
 24	+2.79?	72.0M  	0:06.02	Qe1 g6? 
 24	+3.11!	70.1M  	0:05.85	Qe1! 
 24	+2.94?	56.6M  	0:04.63	Qe1 Rfd8? 
 24	+3.17!	55.2M  	0:04.50	Qe1! 
 23	+3.05 	46.7M  	0:03.71	Qe1 g6 Qh4 Rfd8 fxe7 Nxe7 Rh1 Qa2+ Kg1 h5 gxh6 Nf5 h7+ Kh8 Qe1 Qa1 Kg2 Re8 Ng5 Be6 Nf3 Qa2+ Kg1 Qc6 Rh2 Qa1 Bg5 Ng7 Bf6 Rb2 Nfd2 Qa2 Qh4 
 22	+3.50 	29.8M  	0:01.89	Qe1 Rfc8 Qh4 g6 fxe7 Nxe7 Rh1 Qa2+ Kg3 Nf5+ Bxf5 Bxf5 Qxh7+ Kf8 e6 Bxe6 Qh8+ Ke7 Qf6+ Kd6 Bf4+ Kc6 Nbd2 Qd8 Qxd8 Rxd8 Bxb8 Rxb8 Ne5+ Kc7 
 21	+3.32 	26.9M  	0:01.71	Qe1 g6 Qh4 Rfe8 fxe7 Nxe7 Rh1 h5 gxh6 Nf5 Bxf5 Qa2+ Kg3 gxf5 h7+ Kh8 Bg5 Qg6 Nbd2 
 20	+3.30 	23.3M  	0:01.48	Qe1 g6 Qh4 Rfe8 fxe7 Nxe7 Rh1 Qa2+ Kg3 h5 gxh6 Nf5+ Bxf5 gxf5 Bg5 Qg6 h7+ Kh8 Nbd2 Re6 Kf2 Rb2 
 19	+2.83 	20.5M  	0:01.30	Qe1 Rfd8 Rh1 Qa2+ Nbd2 g6 fxe7 Nxe7 Qh4 h5 gxh6 Nf5 Qf4 Qc6 Bxf5 Bxf5 h7+ Kg7 Kg3 Kh8 Qg5 Qc2 
 18	+1.87 	11.9M  	0:00.74	Nfd2 g6 fxe7 Nxe7 Qf3 Bf5 Ba3 Qe6 Kg3 Bxd3 Qxd3 Nf5+ Kf2 Rfe8 Rc1 h6 gxh6 Nxh6 Bd6 Rb7 Re1 Qf5+ Qxf5 Nxf5 
 17	+1.83 	11.1M  	0:00.68	Nfd2 g6 fxe7 Nxe7 Rf6 Qd8 Qe2 Bf5 Ba3 Bxd3 Qxd3 Qd7 Rf4 Rfc8 Kg3 Nf5+ Kf2 Re8 Qc2 
 16	+1.94 	5.76M  	0:00.36	Nfd2 g6 fxe7 Nxe7 Qf3 Bf5 Ba3 Bxd3 Qxd3 Qe6 Qg3 Qa2 Kg1 Rfe8 Qf3 Qc2 Re1 Qef5 Bxe7 Qxf3 Nxf3 Rxe7 
 15	+2.00 	4.46M  	0:00.28	Nfd2 g6 fxe7 Nxe7 Qf3 Bf5 Ba3 Bxd3 Qxd3 Qe6 Rf4 Rfe8 Kh2 Nf5 Rf2 Qd7 Bc5 Kg7 
 14	+2.18 	1.56M  	0:00.10	Nfd2 g6 fxe7 Nxe7 Rf6 Qd8 Ba3 Bf5 Qf3 Bxd3 Qxd3 Qd7 Rf3 Nf5 Bxf8 Nh4+ Kg3 Nxf3 Nxf3 
 13	+2.16 	1.01M  	0:00.07	Nfd2 g6 fxe7 Nxe7 Rf6 Qd8 Ba3 Qa2 Bd6 Rb2 Qe1 Bb5 Bxb5 Rxb5 Bxe7 Qxe7 Qd1 
 12	+2.30 	605236	0:00.04	Nfd2 g6 fxe7 Nxe7 Rf6 Qd8 Qf3 Bf5 Ba3 Bxd3 Qxd3 Qd7 Bxe7 
 11	+2.31 	252458	0:00.02	fxe7 Nxe7 Nfd2 Qe6 Qh5 h6 gxh6 gxh6 Ba3 
 10	+2.02 	114615	0:00.01	fxe7 Nxe7 Nfd2 Bb5 Bxb5 Qxb5 Ba3 Qd7 Qe2 Qa2 Bd6 
  9	+2.08 	66650  	0:00.01	fxe7 Nxe7 Ba3 Qe6 Bd6 Qg4+ Kf2 Nf5 
  8	+1.92 	34359  	0:00.00	fxe7 Nxe7 Ba3 Qe6 Bd6 Qg4+ Kf2 Nf5 Ba3 Rb6 
  7	+1.95 	21479  	0:00.00	fxe7 Nxe7 Qd2 Nf5 Ba3 Qe6 Qe1 Rb3 
  6	+2.05 	12612  	0:00.00	fxe7 Nxe7 Qd2 Nf5 Ba3 
  5	+1.85 	9397    	0:00.00	fxe7 Nxe7 Ba3 Nf5 Bxf5 Bxf5 
  4	+2.03 	5026    	0:00.00	fxe7 Nxe7 Nfd2 a4 
  3	+2.00 	4563    	0:00.00	fxe7 Nxe7 Ng1 
  2	+2.12 	3516    	0:00.00	fxe7 Nxe7 
  1	+2.29 	2426    	0:00.00	fxe7 Nxe7 
  0	# 
will be releasing exe's for both later today ...including macOS
Does Honey-X5i find Bxh7 with 6-man tbs and one thread?

Thanks Mike, looking forward for your Honey-X5i release. :D
No - Honey did not found Bxh7 with one thread in less than 3 minutes with 6 man tb ( or 7 man). Neither did Crystal-Honey - but if you switch to 6 core and 1024M hash, Crystal-Honey finds Bxh7 in 4.42 secs with a positive score. Honey did not find it in 3 minutes with 6 core as well. It is getting hung up with the Rh1 move and all the related failed highs that move is causing.

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Re: Crystal, the new tactical monster

Post by Zenmastur » Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:04 am

So where do you get a copy of crystal?

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Re: Crystal, the new tactical monster

Post by Ovyron » Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:32 am

Zenmastur wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:04 am
So where do you get a copy of crystal?
I got lost on Github trying to find it, it's possible you end downloading some Stockfishdev source instead of Crystal :shock:

So I recommend this link by Dann Corbit:

EDIT NOTE - This is an outdated link for a modified Crystal 1.0, better to use karger's link below
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xEqAs ... MqEaN2D_0y

It has Crystal's source code and a couple compiles.

EDIT - Oh right, Dann had something to say about this version...
Unfortunately, I make some changes for my own purposes. You can figure them out with diff.
If you want to use this version, you will probably want to turn off writing the analysis to disk UCI logging option.

There is a 64 bit binary for ancient CPUs and one for SSE CPUs, but I do not have a BMI build in it.
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Re: Crystal, the new tactical monster

Post by karger » Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:35 am

Windows compiles are at the link below , scroll down the page and click on assets & you will find 2 windows compiles to download. It is on gitgub which is safe. https://github.com/jhellis3/Stockfish/releases/tag/v1.1

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Re: Crystal, the new tactical monster

Post by Ovyron » Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:40 am

Thanks karger, I wasn't aware of 1.1.
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Re: Crystal, the new tactical monster

Post by Zenmastur » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:10 am

Thank you both. I'll check it out!

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Re: Crystal, the new tactical monster

Post by zullil » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:04 am

Ovyron wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:32 am
Zenmastur wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:04 am
So where do you get a copy of crystal?
I got lost on Github trying to find it, it's possible you end downloading some Stockfishdev source instead of Crystal :shock:
I did that too. This will get you the right source code using git:

git clone --single-branch --branch crystal https://github.com/jhellis3/Stockfish.git

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Re: Crystal, the new tactical monster

Post by Master Om » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:04 pm

zullil wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:04 am
Ovyron wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:32 am
Zenmastur wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:04 am
So where do you get a copy of crystal?
I got lost on Github trying to find it, it's possible you end downloading some Stockfishdev source instead of Crystal :shock:
I did that too. This will get you the right source code using git:

git clone --single-branch --branch crystal https://github.com/jhellis3/Stockfish.git
He is saying about downloading UCI from Github. U end up downloading SC instead of the UCI engine.
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