WCCC 2019 Macau..

[Ovyron]

Wishing they drop the "world championship" from the name

[mclane]

Why should they ? They invite and if few come, it isn’t there fault. The only thing one could criticise is, that they usually choose strange places for the championships.

[Ovyron]

They invite and if few come, it isn’t there fault.

It's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.

As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?

[supersharp77]

They invite and if few come, it isn’t there fault.

It's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.

As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?

Participants

24th World Computer Chess Championship 2018, Stockholm, SE [4]
Program CC Authors Operators Hardware
Booot UA Alex Morozov 2x16 core Intel Xeon @ 1.8 GHz


Chiron IT Ubaldo Andrea Farina 2x16 core AMD EPYC 7551 @ 2.667 GHz

GridGinkgo DE US Kai Himstedt, Frank Schneider Robert Hyatt Wolfgang Zugrav (book)
Timo Haupt 40x16 core Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 @ 2.4 GHz

Jonny DE Johannes Zwanzger 108x24 core AMD Opteron @ 2.8 GHz

Komodo US Don Dailey, Larry Kaufman Mark Lefler Erdogan Günes (book) 4x15 core Intel Xeon E7-8890 v2.2 @ 2.8 GHz
58 cores used

Leela Chess Zero BECH++ Gian-Carlo Pascutto,Alexander Lyashuk et al. [5] Cyril Guyot (round 1+2)
TCECfan (round 3-7) [6] 8 x Tesla V100 (round 1+2)
2 x GTX 1080 Ti (round 3-7)

Shredder DE Stefan Meyer-Kahlen 36 Intel Xeon @ 3GHz

The Baron NL Richard Pijl 2x14 core Intel Xeon @ 3.1GHz
CC

Komodo vs LC0 Round 1 Chess Game....


[pgn]Leela Zero vs Komodo WCCC 2018 Sweden Round 1 [pgn]1.c4 e6 2.nc3 d5 3.d4 nf6 4.cd nd5 5.g3 c5 6.nf3 cd 7.nd5 ed 8.nd4 qb6 9.nb3 bb4+ 10.bd2 nc6 11.bg2 bd2+ 12.qd2 O-O 13.O-O rd8 14.rac1 nb4 15.a3 na2 16.rcd1 qb3 17.bd5 rd5 18.qd5 qd5 19.rd5 be6 20.rd2 g6 21.rfd1 bf8 22.rd8+ rd8 23.rd8+ ke7 24.ra8 a6 25.f3 nc1 26.kf2 nb3 27.g4 kf6 28.h4 h6 29.rf8 g5 30.h5 kg7 31.rb8 bd5 32.ke3 kf6 33.kd3 bc6 34.kc4 nc1 35.e4 ne2 36.kd3 nf4+ 37.kd2 ne6 38.kd3 a5 39.b4 a4 40.ke3 nc7 41.rg8 bb5 42.e5+ ke5 43.rh8 nd5+ 44.kd2 kf6 45.rh6+ kg7 46.rd6 nf4 47.ke3 bc6 48.kf2 f6 49.rd1 bb5 50.rd8 bc6 51.rb8 kh6 52.b5 bb5 53.rb7 bc4 54.ke3 bb3 55.rd7 bd5 56.rd6 kg7 57.rd7+ kh6 58.ra7 bb3 59.ra6 kg7 60.ra5 bc2 61.rc5 bd1 62.ke4 bb3 63.rc7+ kh6 64.rd7 bc2+ 65.kd4 bb3 66.ke4 bc2+ 67.ke3 bb3 68.rd2 bd5 69.rc2 ne6 70.rf2 nf4 71.rc2 nh3 72.rc5 nf4 73.ra5 bb3 74.rf5 kh7 75.rc5 rh6 76.rc6 kg7 77.rc5 bd5 78.ra5 bb3 79.ra8 bc2 80.ra7+ kh6 81.ra6 kg7 82.ra8 kh6 83.rd8 bb3 84.rf8 kh7 85.ra8 kh6 86.rd8 ke6 87.ke4 kg7 88.rd1 bb3 89.rd2 be6 90.rd8 bb3 91.rd2 be6 92.rd1 bb3 93.rd7+ kh6 94.rd6 bc2+ 95.kd4 kg7 96.rd7+ kh6 97.rf7 nd5 98.ra7 nf4 99.ra6 kg7 100.h6+ kg6 101.h7 kh7 102.rf6 kg7 103.rc6 bb3 104.ke5 ng6+ 105.ke4 nh4 106.f4 bd1 107.rc5 gf 108.kf4 kf6 109.rc6+ kf7 110.kg5 nf3+ 111.kh6 ne5 112.rc7+ ke6 113.g5 nf7 114.kg6 ne5 115.kg7 bf3 116.ra7 bd1 117.rc7 kf5 118.rc5 kg5 119.re5+ kf4 120.re1 bf3 121.kf6 bd5 122.ke7 be4 123.kd6 bc2 124.kc7 bb3 125.kb7 bc2 126.kb6 bb3 127.ka5 bc2 128.re8 bb3 129.re7 bc2 130.re1 bb3 131.re8 bd1 132.rb8 bc2 133.rb5 ke4[/pgn]

[supersharp77]

They invite and if few come, it isn’t there fault.

It's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.

As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?

Participants

24th World Computer Chess Championship 2018, Stockholm, SE [4]
Program CC Authors Operators Hardware
Booot UA Alex Morozov 2x16 core Intel Xeon @ 1.8 GHz


Chiron IT Ubaldo Andrea Farina 2x16 core AMD EPYC 7551 @ 2.667 GHz

GridGinkgo DE US Kai Himstedt, Frank Schneider Robert Hyatt Wolfgang Zugrav (book)
Timo Haupt 40x16 core Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 @ 2.4 GHz

Jonny DE Johannes Zwanzger 108x24 core AMD Opteron @ 2.8 GHz

Komodo US Don Dailey, Larry Kaufman Mark Lefler Erdogan Günes (book) 4x15 core Intel Xeon E7-8890 v2.2 @ 2.8 GHz
58 cores used

Leela Chess Zero BECH++ Gian-Carlo Pascutto,Alexander Lyashuk et al. [5] Cyril Guyot (round 1+2)
TCECfan (round 3-7) [6] 8 x Tesla V100 (round 1+2)
2 x GTX 1080 Ti (round 3-7)

Shredder DE Stefan Meyer-Kahlen 36 Intel Xeon @ 3GHz

The Baron NL Richard Pijl 2x14 core Intel Xeon @ 3.1GHz
CC

Komodo vs LC0 Round 1 Chess Game....


Leela Zero vs Komodo
WCCC 2018 Sweden Round 1
[pgn] 1.c4 e6 2.Nc3 d5 3.d4 Nf6 4.cxd Nd5 5.g3 c5 6.Nf3 cxd 7.Nd5 exd 8.Nd4 Qb6 9.Nb3 Nb4+ 10.Bd2 Nc6 11.Bg2 Bd2+ 12.Qd2 O-O 13.O-O Rd8 14.Rac1 Nb4 15.a3 Na2 16.Rcd1 Qb3 17.Bd5 Rd5 18.Qd5 Qd5 19.Rd5 Be6 20.Rd2 g6 21.Rfd1 Bf8 22.Rd8+ Rd8 23.Rd8+ Ke7 24.Ra8 a6 25.f3 Nc1 26.Kf2 Nb3 27.g4 Kf6 28.h4 h6 29.Rf8 g5 30.h5 Kg7 31.Rb8 Bd5 32.Ke3 Kf6 33.Kd3 Bc6 34.Kc4 Nc1 35.e4 Ne2 36.Kd3 Nf4+ 37.Kd2 Ne6 38.Kd3 a5 39.b4 a4 40.Ke3 Nc7 41.Rg8 Bb5 42.e5+ Ke5 43.Rh8 Nd5+ 44.Kd2 Kf6 45.Rh6+ Kg7 46.Rd6 Nf4 47.Ke3 Bc6 48.Kf2 f6 49.Rd1 Bb5 50.Rd8 Bc6 51.Rb8 Kh6 52.B5 Bb5 53.Rb7 Bc4 54.Ke3 Bb3 55.Rd7 Bd5 56.Rd6 Kg7 57.Rd7+ Kh6 58.Ra7 Bb3 59.Ra6 Kg7 60.Ra5 Bc2 61.Rc5 Bd1 62.Ke4 Bb3 63.Rc7+ Kh6 64.Rd7 Bc2+ 65.Kd4 Bb3 66.Ke4 Bc2+ 67.Ke3 Bb3 68.Rd2 Bd5 69.Rc2 Ne6 70.Rf2 Nf4 71.Rc2 Nh3 72.Rc5 Nf4 73.Ra5 Bb3 74.Rf5 Kh7 75.Rc5 Rh6 76.Rc6 Kg7 77.Rc5 Bd5 78.Ra5 Bb3 79.Ra8 Bc2 80.Ra7+ Kh6 81.Ra6 Kg7 82.Ra8 Kh6 83.Rd8 Bb3 84.Rf8 Kh7 85.Ra8 Kh6 86.Rd8 Ke6 87.Ke4 Kg7 88.Rd1 Bb3 89.Rd2 Be6 90.Rd8 Bb3 91.Rd2 Be6 92.Rd1 Bb3 93.Rd7+ Kh6 94.Rd6 Bc2+ 95.Kd4 kg7 96.Rd7+ Kh6 97.Rf7 Nd5 98.Ra7 Nf4 99.Ra6 Kg7 100.h6+ Kg6 101.h7 Kh7 102.Rf6 Kg7 103.Rc6 Bb3 104.Ke5 Ng6+ 105.Ke4 Nh4 106.f4 Bd1 107.Rc5 gf 108.Kf4 Kf6 109.Rc6+ Kf7 110.Kg5 Nf3+ 111.Kh6 Ne5 112.Rc7+ Ke6 113.g5 Nf7 114.Kg6 Ne5 115.Kg7 Bf3 116.Ra7 Bd1 117.Rc7 Kf5 118.Rc5 Kg5 119.Re5+ Kf4 120.Re1 Bf3 121.Kf6 Bd5 122.Ke7 Be4 123.Kd6 Bc2 124.Kc7 Bb3 125.Kb7 Bc2 126.Kb6 Bb3 127.Ka5 Bc2 128.Re8 Bb3 129.Re7 Bc2 130.Re1 Bb3 131.Re8 Bd1 132.Rb8 Bc2 133.Rb5 Ke4[[/pgn]

[mclane]

They invite and if few come, it isn’t there fault.

It's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.

As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?

A Championship Done via Remote is IMO boring ,
It’s like sex via the internet, that’s not really the same as in real life.

[hgm]

A few games played over the internet can hadly be called an event. Anyone can do that whenever he likes, and the interest to participate is about zero. (This is fact: it has been tried.) Furthermore, it seems wide open to fraud.

[mephisto]

I have always enjoyed visiting the World Computer Chess Championships whenever possible and always will. This is a really enjoyable tournament and is always exciting to watch plus you get to meet so many really nice people who have a passion for computer chess like myself. Long may it continue!

[mjlef]

They invite and if few come, it isn’t there fault.

It's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.

As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?

Participants

24th World Computer Chess Championship 2018, Stockholm, SE [4]
Program CC Authors Operators Hardware
Booot UA Alex Morozov 2x16 core Intel Xeon @ 1.8 GHz


Chiron IT Ubaldo Andrea Farina 2x16 core AMD EPYC 7551 @ 2.667 GHz

GridGinkgo DE US Kai Himstedt, Frank Schneider Robert Hyatt Wolfgang Zugrav (book)
Timo Haupt 40x16 core Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 @ 2.4 GHz

Jonny DE Johannes Zwanzger 108x24 core AMD Opteron @ 2.8 GHz

Komodo US Don Dailey, Larry Kaufman Mark Lefler Erdogan Günes (book) 4x15 core Intel Xeon E7-8890 v2.2 @ 2.8 GHz
58 cores used

Leela Chess Zero BECH++ Gian-Carlo Pascutto,Alexander Lyashuk et al. [5] Cyril Guyot (round 1+2)
TCECfan (round 3-7) [6] 8 x Tesla V100 (round 1+2)
2 x GTX 1080 Ti (round 3-7)

Shredder DE Stefan Meyer-Kahlen 36 Intel Xeon @ 3GHz

The Baron NL Richard Pijl 2x14 core Intel Xeon @ 3.1GHz
CC

Komodo vs LC0 Round 1 Chess Game....


Leela Zero vs Komodo
WCCC 2018 Sweden Round 1
[pgn] 1.c4 e6 2.Nc3 d5 3.d4 Nf6 4.cxd Nd5 5.g3 c5 6.Nf3 cxd 7.Nd5 exd 8.Nd4 Qb6 9.Nb3 Nb4+ 10.Bd2 Nc6 11.Bg2 Bd2+ 12.Qd2 O-O 13.O-O Rd8 14.Rac1 Nb4 15.a3 Na2 16.Rcd1 Qb3 17.Bd5 Rd5 18.Qd5 Qd5 19.Rd5 Be6 20.Rd2 g6 21.Rfd1 Bf8 22.Rd8+ Rd8 23.Rd8+ Ke7 24.Ra8 a6 25.f3 Nc1 26.Kf2 Nb3 27.g4 Kf6 28.h4 h6 29.Rf8 g5 30.h5 Kg7 31.Rb8 Bd5 32.Ke3 Kf6 33.Kd3 Bc6 34.Kc4 Nc1 35.e4 Ne2 36.Kd3 Nf4+ 37.Kd2 Ne6 38.Kd3 a5 39.b4 a4 40.Ke3 Nc7 41.Rg8 Bb5 42.e5+ Ke5 43.Rh8 Nd5+ 44.Kd2 Kf6 45.Rh6+ Kg7 46.Rd6 Nf4 47.Ke3 Bc6 48.Kf2 f6 49.Rd1 Bb5 50.Rd8 Bc6 51.Rb8 Kh6 52.B5 Bb5 53.Rb7 Bc4 54.Ke3 Bb3 55.Rd7 Bd5 56.Rd6 Kg7 57.Rd7+ Kh6 58.Ra7 Bb3 59.Ra6 Kg7 60.Ra5 Bc2 61.Rc5 Bd1 62.Ke4 Bb3 63.Rc7+ Kh6 64.Rd7 Bc2+ 65.Kd4 Bb3 66.Ke4 Bc2+ 67.Ke3 Bb3 68.Rd2 Bd5 69.Rc2 Ne6 70.Rf2 Nf4 71.Rc2 Nh3 72.Rc5 Nf4 73.Ra5 Bb3 74.Rf5 Kh7 75.Rc5 Rh6 76.Rc6 Kg7 77.Rc5 Bd5 78.Ra5 Bb3 79.Ra8 Bc2 80.Ra7+ Kh6 81.Ra6 Kg7 82.Ra8 Kh6 83.Rd8 Bb3 84.Rf8 Kh7 85.Ra8 Kh6 86.Rd8 Ke6 87.Ke4 Kg7 88.Rd1 Bb3 89.Rd2 Be6 90.Rd8 Bb3 91.Rd2 Be6 92.Rd1 Bb3 93.Rd7+ Kh6 94.Rd6 Bc2+ 95.Kd4 kg7 96.Rd7+ Kh6 97.Rf7 Nd5 98.Ra7 Nf4 99.Ra6 Kg7 100.h6+ Kg6 101.h7 Kh7 102.Rf6 Kg7 103.Rc6 Bb3 104.Ke5 Ng6+ 105.Ke4 Nh4 106.f4 Bd1 107.Rc5 gf 108.Kf4 Kf6 109.Rc6+ Kf7 110.Kg5 Nf3+ 111.Kh6 Ne5 112.Rc7+ Ke6 113.g5 Nf7 114.Kg6 Ne5 115.Kg7 Bf3 116.Ra7 Bd1 117.Rc7 Kf5 118.Rc5 Kg5 119.Re5+ Kf4 120.Re1 Bf3 121.Kf6 Bd5 122.Ke7 Be4 123.Kd6 Bc2 124.Kc7 Bb3 125.Kb7 Bc2 126.Kb6 Bb3 127.Ka5 Bc2 128.Re8 Bb3 129.Re7 Bc2 130.Re1 Bb3 131.Re8 Bd1 132.Rb8 Bc2 133.Rb5 Ke4[[/pgn]

Could you report with a corrected PGN? this one gets hung up on the imporperly coded 4.cxd move. Claims of being abe to beat any person or program are best settied with real examples.

Note, most of the WCCC participants do play using remote machines. Ther is something nice about meeting people in person.

Mark

[supersharp77]

[/quote]

Could you report with a corrected PGN? this one gets hung up on the imporperly coded 4.cxd move. Claims of being abe to beat any person or program are best settied with real examples.

Note, most of the WCCC participants do play using remote machines. Ther is something nice about meeting people in person.

Mark
[/quote]
Searched and searched and it seems they never posted a complete games pgn (for obvious in house reasons) spent lots of time transcribing that game (it was quite long) but with mixed results...games can be viewed at

http://view.livechesscloud.com/7c104c94 ... f22a1880d0

Thx AR