WCCC 2019 Macau..

[Ovyron]

Wishing they drop the "world championship" from the name

[mclane]

Why should they ? They invite and if few come, it isn’t there fault. The only thing one could criticise is, that they usually choose strange places for the championships.

[Ovyron]

They invite and if few come, it isn’t there fault.

It's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.

As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?

[supersharp77]

They invite and if few come, it isn’t there fault.

It's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.

As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?

Participants

24th World Computer Chess Championship 2018, Stockholm, SE [4]
Program CC Authors Operators Hardware
Booot UA Alex Morozov 2x16 core Intel Xeon @ 1.8 GHz


Chiron IT Ubaldo Andrea Farina 2x16 core AMD EPYC 7551 @ 2.667 GHz

GridGinkgo DE US Kai Himstedt, Frank Schneider Robert Hyatt Wolfgang Zugrav (book)
Timo Haupt 40x16 core Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 @ 2.4 GHz

Jonny DE Johannes Zwanzger 108x24 core AMD Opteron @ 2.8 GHz

Komodo US Don Dailey, Larry Kaufman Mark Lefler Erdogan Günes (book) 4x15 core Intel Xeon E7-8890 v2.2 @ 2.8 GHz
58 cores used

Leela Chess Zero BECH++ Gian-Carlo Pascutto,Alexander Lyashuk et al. [5] Cyril Guyot (round 1+2)
TCECfan (round 3-7) [6] 8 x Tesla V100 (round 1+2)
2 x GTX 1080 Ti (round 3-7)

Shredder DE Stefan Meyer-Kahlen 36 Intel Xeon @ 3GHz

The Baron NL Richard Pijl 2x14 core Intel Xeon @ 3.1GHz
CC

Komodo vs LC0 Round 1 Chess Game....


[pgn]Leela Zero vs Komodo
WCCC 2018 Sweden Round 1
[pgn]1.c4 e6
2.nc3 d5
3.d4 nf6
4.cd nd5
5.g3 c5
6.nf3 cd
7.nd5 ed
8.nd4 qb6
9.nb3 bb4+
10.bd2 nc6
11.bg2 bd2+
12.qd2 O-O
13.O-O rd8
14.rac1 nb4
15.a3 na2
16.rcd1 qb3
17.bd5 rd5
18.qd5 qd5
19.rd5 be6
20.rd2 g6
21.rfd1 bf8
22.rd8+ rd8
23.rd8+ ke7
24.ra8 a6
25.f3 nc1
26.kf2 nb3
27.g4 kf6
28.h4 h6
29.rf8 g5
30.h5 kg7
31.rb8 bd5
32.ke3 kf6
33.kd3 bc6
34.kc4 nc1
35.e4 ne2
36.kd3 nf4+
37.kd2 ne6
38.kd3 a5
39.b4 a4
40.ke3 nc7
41.rg8 bb5
42.e5+ ke5
43.rh8 nd5+
44.kd2 kf6
45.rh6+ kg7
46.rd6 nf4
47.ke3 bc6
48.kf2 f6
49.rd1 bb5
50.rd8 bc6
51.rb8 kh6
52.b5 bb5
53.rb7 bc4
54.ke3 bb3
55.rd7 bd5
56.rd6 kg7
57.rd7+ kh6
58.ra7 bb3
59.ra6 kg7
60.ra5 bc2
61.rc5 bd1
62.ke4 bb3
63.rc7+ kh6
64.rd7 bc2+
65.kd4 bb3
66.ke4 bc2+
67.ke3 bb3
68.rd2 bd5
69.rc2 ne6
70.rf2 nf4
71.rc2 nh3
72.rc5 nf4
73.ra5 bb3
74.rf5 kh7
75.rc5 rh6
76.rc6 kg7
77.rc5 bd5
78.ra5 bb3
79.ra8 bc2
80.ra7+ kh6
81.ra6 kg7
82.ra8 kh6
83.rd8 bb3
84.rf8 kh7
85.ra8 kh6
86.rd8 ke6
87.ke4 kg7
88.rd1 bb3
89.rd2 be6
90.rd8 bb3
91.rd2 be6
92.rd1 bb3
93.rd7+ kh6
94.rd6 bc2+
95.kd4 kg7
96.rd7+ kh6
97.rf7 nd5
98.ra7 nf4
99.ra6 kg7
100.h6+ kg6
101.h7 kh7
102.rf6 kg7
103.rc6 bb3
104.ke5 ng6+
105.ke4 nh4
106.f4 bd1
107.rc5 gf
108.kf4 kf6
109.rc6+ kf7
110.kg5 nf3+
111.kh6 ne5
112.rc7+ ke6
113.g5 nf7
114.kg6 ne5
115.kg7 bf3
116.ra7 bd1
117.rc7 kf5
118.rc5 kg5
119.re5+ kf4
120.re1 bf3
121.kf6 bd5
122.ke7 be4
123.kd6 bc2
124.kc7 bb3
125.kb7 bc2
126.kb6 bb3
127.ka5 bc2
128.re8 bb3
129.re7 bc2
130.re1 bb3
131.re8 bd1
132.rb8 bc2
133.rb5 ke4[/pgn][/pgn]

[supersharp77]

They invite and if few come, it isn’t there fault.

It's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.

As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?

Participants

24th World Computer Chess Championship 2018, Stockholm, SE [4]
Program CC Authors Operators Hardware
Booot UA Alex Morozov 2x16 core Intel Xeon @ 1.8 GHz


Chiron IT Ubaldo Andrea Farina 2x16 core AMD EPYC 7551 @ 2.667 GHz

GridGinkgo DE US Kai Himstedt, Frank Schneider Robert Hyatt Wolfgang Zugrav (book)
Timo Haupt 40x16 core Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 @ 2.4 GHz

Jonny DE Johannes Zwanzger 108x24 core AMD Opteron @ 2.8 GHz

Komodo US Don Dailey, Larry Kaufman Mark Lefler Erdogan Günes (book) 4x15 core Intel Xeon E7-8890 v2.2 @ 2.8 GHz
58 cores used

Leela Chess Zero BECH++ Gian-Carlo Pascutto,Alexander Lyashuk et al. [5] Cyril Guyot (round 1+2)
TCECfan (round 3-7) [6] 8 x Tesla V100 (round 1+2)
2 x GTX 1080 Ti (round 3-7)

Shredder DE Stefan Meyer-Kahlen 36 Intel Xeon @ 3GHz

The Baron NL Richard Pijl 2x14 core Intel Xeon @ 3.1GHz
CC

Komodo vs LC0 Round 1 Chess Game....


Leela Zero vs Komodo
WCCC 2018 Sweden Round 1
[pgn]
1.c4 e6
2.Nc3 d5
3.d4 Nf6
4.cxd Nd5
5.g3 c5
6.Nf3 cxd
7.Nd5 exd
8.Nd4 Qb6
9.Nb3 Nb4+
10.Bd2 Nc6
11.Bg2 Bd2+
12.Qd2 O-O
13.O-O Rd8
14.Rac1 Nb4
15.a3 Na2
16.Rcd1 Qb3
17.Bd5 Rd5
18.Qd5 Qd5
19.Rd5 Be6
20.Rd2 g6
21.Rfd1 Bf8
22.Rd8+ Rd8
23.Rd8+ Ke7
24.Ra8 a6
25.f3 Nc1
26.Kf2 Nb3
27.g4 Kf6
28.h4 h6
29.Rf8 g5
30.h5 Kg7
31.Rb8 Bd5
32.Ke3 Kf6
33.Kd3 Bc6
34.Kc4 Nc1
35.e4 Ne2
36.Kd3 Nf4+
37.Kd2 Ne6
38.Kd3 a5
39.b4 a4
40.Ke3 Nc7
41.Rg8 Bb5
42.e5+ Ke5
43.Rh8 Nd5+
44.Kd2 Kf6
45.Rh6+ Kg7
46.Rd6 Nf4
47.Ke3 Bc6
48.Kf2 f6
49.Rd1 Bb5
50.Rd8 Bc6
51.Rb8 Kh6
52.B5 Bb5
53.Rb7 Bc4
54.Ke3 Bb3
55.Rd7 Bd5
56.Rd6 Kg7
57.Rd7+ Kh6
58.Ra7 Bb3
59.Ra6 Kg7
60.Ra5 Bc2
61.Rc5 Bd1
62.Ke4 Bb3
63.Rc7+ Kh6
64.Rd7 Bc2+
65.Kd4 Bb3
66.Ke4 Bc2+
67.Ke3 Bb3
68.Rd2 Bd5
69.Rc2 Ne6
70.Rf2 Nf4
71.Rc2 Nh3
72.Rc5 Nf4
73.Ra5 Bb3
74.Rf5 Kh7
75.Rc5 Rh6
76.Rc6 Kg7
77.Rc5 Bd5
78.Ra5 Bb3
79.Ra8 Bc2
80.Ra7+ Kh6
81.Ra6 Kg7
82.Ra8 Kh6
83.Rd8 Bb3
84.Rf8 Kh7
85.Ra8 Kh6
86.Rd8 Ke6
87.Ke4 Kg7
88.Rd1 Bb3
89.Rd2 Be6
90.Rd8 Bb3
91.Rd2 Be6
92.Rd1 Bb3
93.Rd7+ Kh6
94.Rd6 Bc2+
95.Kd4 kg7
96.Rd7+ Kh6
97.Rf7 Nd5
98.Ra7 Nf4
99.Ra6 Kg7
100.h6+ Kg6
101.h7 Kh7
102.Rf6 Kg7
103.Rc6 Bb3
104.Ke5 Ng6+
105.Ke4 Nh4
106.f4 Bd1
107.Rc5 gf
108.Kf4 Kf6
109.Rc6+ Kf7
110.Kg5 Nf3+
111.Kh6 Ne5
112.Rc7+ Ke6
113.g5 Nf7
114.Kg6 Ne5
115.Kg7 Bf3
116.Ra7 Bd1
117.Rc7 Kf5
118.Rc5 Kg5
119.Re5+ Kf4
120.Re1 Bf3
121.Kf6 Bd5
122.Ke7 Be4
123.Kd6 Bc2
124.Kc7 Bb3
125.Kb7 Bc2
126.Kb6 Bb3
127.Ka5 Bc2
128.Re8 Bb3
129.Re7 Bc2
130.Re1 Bb3
131.Re8 Bd1
132.Rb8 Bc2
133.Rb5 Ke4[[/pgn]

[mclane]

They invite and if few come, it isn’t there fault.

It's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.

As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?

A Championship Done via Remote is IMO boring ,
It’s like sex via the internet, that’s not really the same as in real life.

[hgm]

A few games played over the internet can hadly be called an event. Anyone can do that whenever he likes, and the interest to participate is about zero. (This is fact: it has been tried.) Furthermore, it seems wide open to fraud.

[mephisto]

I have always enjoyed visiting the World Computer Chess Championships whenever possible and always will. This is a really enjoyable tournament and is always exciting to watch plus you get to meet so many really nice people who have a passion for computer chess like myself. Long may it continue!

[mjlef]

They invite and if few come, it isn’t there fault.

It's their fault if they haven't figured out chess engine games can be played remotely. A true world chess champion would be the best engine available in the best hardware available, with the best openings available, and that is a thing that doesn't require people being there in person, just like it doesn't require cavemen painting on the walls.

As for Komodo being the world champion or whatever, I think I could beat the champion with my 10 year old CPU with a private tournament book, so what kind of champion is that, that I can beat from my basement? Does any other thing have a world champion this weak?

Participants

24th World Computer Chess Championship 2018, Stockholm, SE [4]
Program CC Authors Operators Hardware
Booot UA Alex Morozov 2x16 core Intel Xeon @ 1.8 GHz


Chiron IT Ubaldo Andrea Farina 2x16 core AMD EPYC 7551 @ 2.667 GHz

GridGinkgo DE US Kai Himstedt, Frank Schneider Robert Hyatt Wolfgang Zugrav (book)
Timo Haupt 40x16 core Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 @ 2.4 GHz

Jonny DE Johannes Zwanzger 108x24 core AMD Opteron @ 2.8 GHz

Komodo US Don Dailey, Larry Kaufman Mark Lefler Erdogan Günes (book) 4x15 core Intel Xeon E7-8890 v2.2 @ 2.8 GHz
58 cores used

Leela Chess Zero BECH++ Gian-Carlo Pascutto,Alexander Lyashuk et al. [5] Cyril Guyot (round 1+2)
TCECfan (round 3-7) [6] 8 x Tesla V100 (round 1+2)
2 x GTX 1080 Ti (round 3-7)

Shredder DE Stefan Meyer-Kahlen 36 Intel Xeon @ 3GHz

The Baron NL Richard Pijl 2x14 core Intel Xeon @ 3.1GHz
CC

Komodo vs LC0 Round 1 Chess Game....


Leela Zero vs Komodo
WCCC 2018 Sweden Round 1
[pgn]
1.c4 e6
2.Nc3 d5
3.d4 Nf6
4.cxd Nd5
5.g3 c5
6.Nf3 cxd
7.Nd5 exd
8.Nd4 Qb6
9.Nb3 Nb4+
10.Bd2 Nc6
11.Bg2 Bd2+
12.Qd2 O-O
13.O-O Rd8
14.Rac1 Nb4
15.a3 Na2
16.Rcd1 Qb3
17.Bd5 Rd5
18.Qd5 Qd5
19.Rd5 Be6
20.Rd2 g6
21.Rfd1 Bf8
22.Rd8+ Rd8
23.Rd8+ Ke7
24.Ra8 a6
25.f3 Nc1
26.Kf2 Nb3
27.g4 Kf6
28.h4 h6
29.Rf8 g5
30.h5 Kg7
31.Rb8 Bd5
32.Ke3 Kf6
33.Kd3 Bc6
34.Kc4 Nc1
35.e4 Ne2
36.Kd3 Nf4+
37.Kd2 Ne6
38.Kd3 a5
39.b4 a4
40.Ke3 Nc7
41.Rg8 Bb5
42.e5+ Ke5
43.Rh8 Nd5+
44.Kd2 Kf6
45.Rh6+ Kg7
46.Rd6 Nf4
47.Ke3 Bc6
48.Kf2 f6
49.Rd1 Bb5
50.Rd8 Bc6
51.Rb8 Kh6
52.B5 Bb5
53.Rb7 Bc4
54.Ke3 Bb3
55.Rd7 Bd5
56.Rd6 Kg7
57.Rd7+ Kh6
58.Ra7 Bb3
59.Ra6 Kg7
60.Ra5 Bc2
61.Rc5 Bd1
62.Ke4 Bb3
63.Rc7+ Kh6
64.Rd7 Bc2+
65.Kd4 Bb3
66.Ke4 Bc2+
67.Ke3 Bb3
68.Rd2 Bd5
69.Rc2 Ne6
70.Rf2 Nf4
71.Rc2 Nh3
72.Rc5 Nf4
73.Ra5 Bb3
74.Rf5 Kh7
75.Rc5 Rh6
76.Rc6 Kg7
77.Rc5 Bd5
78.Ra5 Bb3
79.Ra8 Bc2
80.Ra7+ Kh6
81.Ra6 Kg7
82.Ra8 Kh6
83.Rd8 Bb3
84.Rf8 Kh7
85.Ra8 Kh6
86.Rd8 Ke6
87.Ke4 Kg7
88.Rd1 Bb3
89.Rd2 Be6
90.Rd8 Bb3
91.Rd2 Be6
92.Rd1 Bb3
93.Rd7+ Kh6
94.Rd6 Bc2+
95.Kd4 kg7
96.Rd7+ Kh6
97.Rf7 Nd5
98.Ra7 Nf4
99.Ra6 Kg7
100.h6+ Kg6
101.h7 Kh7
102.Rf6 Kg7
103.Rc6 Bb3
104.Ke5 Ng6+
105.Ke4 Nh4
106.f4 Bd1
107.Rc5 gf
108.Kf4 Kf6
109.Rc6+ Kf7
110.Kg5 Nf3+
111.Kh6 Ne5
112.Rc7+ Ke6
113.g5 Nf7
114.Kg6 Ne5
115.Kg7 Bf3
116.Ra7 Bd1
117.Rc7 Kf5
118.Rc5 Kg5
119.Re5+ Kf4
120.Re1 Bf3
121.Kf6 Bd5
122.Ke7 Be4
123.Kd6 Bc2
124.Kc7 Bb3
125.Kb7 Bc2
126.Kb6 Bb3
127.Ka5 Bc2
128.Re8 Bb3
129.Re7 Bc2
130.Re1 Bb3
131.Re8 Bd1
132.Rb8 Bc2
133.Rb5 Ke4[[/pgn]

Could you report with a corrected PGN? this one gets hung up on the imporperly coded 4.cxd move. Claims of being abe to beat any person or program are best settied with real examples.

Note, most of the WCCC participants do play using remote machines. Ther is something nice about meeting people in person.

Mark

[supersharp77]

[/quote]

Could you report with a corrected PGN? this one gets hung up on the imporperly coded 4.cxd move. Claims of being abe to beat any person or program are best settied with real examples.

Note, most of the WCCC participants do play using remote machines. Ther is something nice about meeting people in person.

Mark
[/quote]
Searched and searched and it seems they never posted a complete games pgn (for obvious in house reasons) spent lots of time transcribing that game (it was quite long) but with mixed results...games can be viewed at

http://view.livechesscloud.com/7c104c94 ... f22a1880d0

Thx AR